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Yesterday I saw at the Nova Bus plant a hybrid with sliding windows and with the STM poster (Un bus = 50 autos) on its side. I didn't see any fleet number on it, but is the STM reverting some or all the buses back to the old windows? I also posted this picture to a facebook group but never came up with a conclusive answer about it.

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This bus is probably the beginning of the 37-xxx livery.  For the windows, I guess it Will be by batch, some of them Will be frameless & others Will be normal ( I base this comment by pure feeling). Will see, they are suppose to be base at the CT Stinson if the rumors are true.

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I guess some of them would be going to the 747 route, and that they might be either wanting them to match the appearance of the 31-xxx currently used on the 747, or they might concentrate all frameless window buses in Mont-Royal. Why they might go back to the sliding windows for the 747 route is probably because the luggage racks add costs to the price of the buses, and using sliding windows instead would make them less expensive.

Also, specifically which of the 36-xxx have sliding windows? 36-045?

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From what I heard, no 36-xxx are suppose to be at the 747 route ( so weird that they preserve new buses for the route 11 Mont-Royal, but not for the airport...).  I can confirm you that 36-043 & 36-045 have sliding windows.  So I can imagine that the 36-043 & the rest that will come this year (36-051) will all have sliding windows!!

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8 hours ago, M106 said:

From what I heard, no 36-xxx are suppose to be at the 747 route ( so weird that they preserve new buses for the route 11 Mont-Royal, but not for the airport...).  I can confirm you that 36-043 & 36-045 have sliding windows.  So I can imagine that the 36-043 & the rest that will come this year (36-051) will all have sliding windows!!

Obvious ... 36-000 bus DON'T have luggage racks !

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The coaches was there to replace the LFS with luggages rack on the 747 so they can use these same LFS on the regular route.  So they twisted the informations from the beginning.  I thought me too they were suppose to buy new LFS with luggages rack so they can put them on the 747.  Instead, all the new hybrid are at Mont-Royal & Mont-Royal will ship some buses at Lasalle... & Lasalle will give some LFS with luggages rack (30-001 to 30-020) to Stinson until everything is over in january.  So basically, nothing new will replace the coaches!!!

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3 hours ago, M106 said:

The coaches was there to replace the LFS with luggages rack on the 747 so they can use these same LFS on the regular route.  So they twisted the informations from the beginning.  I thought me too they were suppose to buy new LFS with luggages rack so they can put them on the 747.  Instead, all the new hybrid are at Mont-Royal & Mont-Royal will ship some buses at Lasalle... & Lasalle will give some LFS with luggages rack (30-001 to 30-020) to Stinson until everything is over in january.  So basically, nothing new will replace the coaches!!!

Which is terrible because this route pretty much make sense only with A/C buses, and the scrap 30-xxx buses don't have A/C. I mean, we pay $10 for this route, so we deserve better than that! If it is still the third gen scrap, why on earth would I still ride on this route? There are plenty of other routes that go to or near the airport for $3.25.

I mean, even this article make it sound like that the new hybrids will do the 747, and it does not mention anything about transferring the 30-xxx to Stinson to do the 747. Such a stupid management, no matter why one of my favorite Youtubers refer the STM as stupid transit mofos (no swearing intended).

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/08/insatisfaction-croissante-sur-la-747-la-faute-aux-chantiers-dit-la-stm

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45 minutes ago, anyfong said:

Which is terrible because this route pretty much make sense only with A/C buses, and the scrap 30-xxx buses don't have A/C. I mean, we pay $10 for this route, so we deserve better than that! If it is still the third gen scrap, why on earth would I still ride on this route? There are plenty of other routes that go to or near the airport for $3.25.

I mean, even this article make it sound like that the new hybrids will do the 747, and it does not mention anything about transferring the 30-xxx to Stinson to do the 747. Such a stupid management, no matter why one of my favorite Youtubers refer the STM as stupid transit mofos (no swearing intended).

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/08/insatisfaction-croissante-sur-la-747-la-faute-aux-chantiers-dit-la-stm

The problem, either 29-xxx, 30-xxx, 31-xxx or 36-xxx is simple, not enough seats and room for luggage. Also the fact that STM still clueless about options to avoid the Turcot mess.

To improve service, the STM should revise the 747 service by eliminating the downtown part of the line and like the TTC, finish the route to the nearest subway station, in this case Angrignon on the green line, so the buses would not be struck in the mess that is Turcot interchange. Sadly this comes with some drawbacks as Angrignon is not a accessible station (but will be before ... 2022!) and it would be harder for the tourist with their luggage then a direct downtown bus.

 

With the save money, add a second express bus between Côte-Vertu station and the Airport via Côte-Vertu (bus lanes avaliable), Montée de Liesse and the A-520

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Just now, eclair14 said:

The problem, either 29-xxx, 30-xxx, 31-xxx or 36-xxx is simple, not enough seats and room for luggage. Also the fact that STM still clueless about options to avoid the Turcot mess.

To improve service, the STM should revise the 747 service by eliminating the downtown part of the line and like the TTC, finish the route to the nearest subway station, in this case Angrignon on the green line, so the buses would not be struck in the mess that is Turcot interchange. With the save money, add a second express bus between Côte-Vertu station and the Airport via Côte-Vertu (bus lanes avaliable), Montée de Liesse and the A-520

Absolutely. If the STM had the right to lease the coaches long-term (perhaps permanently), I think it would be better off since there's more seats. But still I really dislike their seating arrangement in the third gen LFSes. Or even put some artics on the route. That would solve some of the overcrowding.

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On ‎2016‎-‎12‎-‎11 at 8:30 PM, novalfs26001 said:

I've noticed some of the latest 36-000s have regular sliding windows. Don't know why they are going back. Stinson should be getting new buses next year (I heard the same rumour) however driver training hasn't started.  

I rode 30-255 on the 215 this morning with yellow pancarte FORMATION.

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Cold temps can lower an electric buses range (because it affects battery performance)  but I know that planners have already made sure that won't be a problem. Perhaps with a heater for the battery, or just sizing the battery bigger than will be necessary during the non-winter months.

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20 minutes ago, MAX BRT said:

Cold temps can lower an electric buses range (because it affects battery performance)  but I know that planners have already made sure that won't be a problem. Perhaps with a heater for the battery, or just sizing the battery bigger than will be necessary during the non-winter months.

And also adequate insulation for the battery compartment.

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Rapido Trains Inc. have announced that they are making an HO-scale 1974 CTCUM New Look, available only via the STM Boutique.  Numbers available are 16-006, 16-023, 16-041, 16-046 and 16-059.  As with the TTC Fishbowls, the ordering deadline is May 2017 for delivery in the fall.

http://rapidotrains.com/ho-new-look-bus-stm/

https://www.boutiquestm.com/fc/modele-echelle-1-87/

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3 hours ago, tomsbuspage said:

Rapido Trains Inc. have announced that they are making an HO-scale 1974 CTCUM New Look, available only via the STM Boutique.  Numbers available are 16-006, 16-023, 16-041, 16-046 and 16-059.  As with the TTC Fishbowls, the ordering deadline is May 2017 for delivery in the fall.

http://rapidotrains.com/ho-new-look-bus-stm/

https://www.boutiquestm.com/fc/modele-echelle-1-87/

In all seriousness, what is the difference between each numbered unit? smallspy do you care to comment please? Is it worth it to buy every single one or is it pretty much the same if we merely bought just the one?

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32 minutes ago, SMS said:

In all seriousness, what is the difference between each numbered unit? smallspy do you care to comment please? Is it worth it to buy every single one or is it pretty much the same if we merely bought just the one?

Its like Lays, You know you very well can not just buy one.

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17 hours ago, SMS said:

In all seriousness, what is the difference between each numbered unit? smallspy do you care to comment please? Is it worth it to buy every single one or is it pretty much the same if we merely bought just the one?

The models are all the same save for the fleet number printed on the bus. There will be a decal sheet included with each bus that will include additional optional details such destination signs and license plates.

 

Dan

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Route Allocations 2017

XX (YY) = Transferred Route, Old Garage in (  ).

50 - Stinson {Total Routes: 32}

16 (SL), 17 (SL), 64 (SL), 70 (SL), 72 (SL), 73 (SL) 76 (SL), 80, 100, 103, 105, 115 (SL), 117 (SL), 124, 128, 162, 165, 170 (SL), 174 (SL) 175, 196 (SL), 213, 216 (SL), 369, 371, 380, 409 (SL), 435, 468 (SL), 470, 475 (SL), 485 (SL)

54 - Anjou {Total Routes: 27}

26, 28, 33, 39, 40, 43, 44, 48, 49, 86, 141, 183, 186, 187, 188, 189, 192, 355, 362, 364, 372, 444, 448, 449, 469, 486, 487

55 - St Denis {Total Routes: 22}

13, 18, 30, 31, 46, 54, 55, 66, 92, 93, 95, 99, 119, 129, 160, 161, 166, 179, 361, 363, 370, 935

56 - LaSalle {Total Routes: 40}

12, 21, 36, 37, 57 (SN), 58, 63 (SN), 71, 77, 78, 90 (SN), 101, 102 (SN), 104 (SN), 106, 107, 108, 09, 110, 112, 113, 116, 123, 138 (SN), 191 (SN), 195, 211 (SN), 350, 354, 356 (SN), 360, 405 (SN), 406, 411 (SN), 420 (SN), 425 (SN), 491 (SN), 495, 496 (SN), 747

57 - Mont Royal {Total Routes: 14}

11, 14, 27, 32, 47, 51, 97, 144, 357, 359, 368, 410, 427, 430

58 - Legendre {Total Routes: 22}

19, 41, 45, 52, 53, 56, 67, 69, 121, 135, 139, 140, 146, 171, 180, 193, 197, 365, 439, 440, 460, 467

59 - Frontenac {Total Routes: 26}

10, 15, 22, 24, 25, 29, 34, 61, 74, 75, 85, 94, 125, 131, 136, 150, 168, 178, 185, 353, 358, 432, 715, 767, 769, 777

60 - St Laurent {Total Routes: 26}

68, 126, 164, 177, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 215, 217, 218, 219, 220, 225, 376, 378, 382, 401, 407, 419

 

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