CP Power

[M. Parsons]

2 hours ago, WMATAC40LF said:

I wouldn't say that these modernization programs improve emissions "greatly". Tier 0 to Tier 0+ or Tier 1 isn't that big of a difference in the grand scheme of things (although I suppose its better than nothing).

And of course, some of these modernization programs to avoid having to purchase Tier 4 locomotives in the first place. It's really interesting times in that sense, I can only imagine this is sort of what it was like when railways started turning out GP7/9 rebuild programs.

[smallspy]

13 hours ago, M. Parsons said:

And of course, some of these modernization programs to avoid having to purchase Tier 4 locomotives in the first place. It's really interesting times in that sense, I can only imagine this is sort of what it was like when railways started turning out GP7/9 rebuild programs.

A lot of those rebuild programs of the 1970s and 1980s were for the same reason - cost avoidance.

 

In some cases, they didn't want to buy brand new high-horsepower units when the older, less powerful ones would suit the job nicely once rebuilt. In others, it was a ongoing maintenance cost that they were trying to avoid and so railroads would rebuild old locos from a variety of different manufacturers to a more common single spec.

And to that degree, a lot of these current rebuild programs are for that same reason - avoiding the ongoing maintenance cost of all of the additional equipment that is required to meet the Tier IV regulations. (As well as reducing fuel use - as counter-intuitive as it may seem, the Tier IV-compliant locos burn more fuel than the ones that don't meet Tier IV.)

 

Dan

[GM5000]

On 5/14/2019 at 4:18 PM, WMATAC40LF said:

Also, speaking of rebuilds, CP has started shipping more SD90MACs (that were not in the previous batch of 30) south to the US. Its sounds as though they are going to have the rest of these units rebuilt by Progress Rail. CP also purchased 4 AC4400CWs from CSX, all with various types of damage, that will presumably be used as rebuild cores in the future.

The CSX's are for parts then scrapping. There was a rumour that a fifth had been bought to replace 9538 in the AC4400CWM program, but it's not looking like that's going to happen.  

What CP did buy was a pair of UP SD90MAC (3551 & 3567) to bring the total number of cores for the SD70ACu rebuilds up to an even 60. The UP's are stored in Idaho right now, supposed to go to CP at St Paul, then to Progress.

 

[WMATAC40LF]

14 hours ago, GM5000 said:

The CSX's are for parts then scrapping. There was a rumour that a fifth had been bought to replace 9538 in the AC4400CWM program, but it's not looking like that's going to happen.  

What CP did buy was a pair of UP SD90MAC (3551 & 3567) to bring the total number of cores for the SD70ACu rebuilds up to an even 60. The UP's are stored in Idaho right now, supposed to go to CP at St Paul, then to Progress.

 

I had heard about the 2 UPs on another forum, but didn't know their numbers. Thanks for the info. 

It seems a little odd that CP plans to scrap the CSX AC44s (given that they could be put through a rebuild), but in the end of the day these sorts of decisions usually come down to what makes the most sense economically.  

[TTC T6H-5307N 2252]

CP SD9043MAC TRACE (CP 9100 - CP 7000 AC70CAU) 

As of Wednesday September 18, 2019

CP 7000 (9101) D North Bend,BC September 18 at 11:12am*

CP 7001 (9104) A Golden,BC September 17 at 05:06am *

CP 7002 (9108) A Alderson,AB September 18 at 12:08pm*

CP 7003 (9117) D Kamloops,BC September 18 at 03:32am*

CP 7004 (9149) A St-Paul,Mn September 17at 20:55pm*

CP 7005 (9116) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa October 22, in service already

CP 7006 (9118) A Glenwood,Mn September 18 at 12:57pm*

CP 7007 (9119) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 5, in service already 

CP 7008 (9131) A Glenwood,Mn September 18 at 12:57pm*

CP 7009 (9151) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 2, in service already 

CP 7010 (9102) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 8 (in script), in service already

CP 7011 (9105) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 12 (in script), in service already 

CP 7012 (9113) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 29 (in script), in service already 

CP 7013 (9125) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 13 (in script), in service already 

CP 7014 (9153) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 13 (in script), in service already 

CP 7015 (9107) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 24 (in block), in service already 

CP 7016 (9146) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa December 13 (in block)

CP 7017 (9128) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 19 (in block)

CP 7018 (9160) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa November 19 (in block)

CP 7019 (9109) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa July 6 (in block)

CP 7020 (9134) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa July 6, in service already 

CP 7021 (9126) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa July 12, in service already 

CP 7022 (9121) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa July 12, in service already 

CP 7023 (9140) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa July 18, in service already 

CP 6644 (7024) (9147) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa July 12, in service already 

CP 7025 (9159) A Glenwood,Mn September 18 at 12:57pm*

CP 7026 (9123) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa October 3, in service already 

CP 7027 (9110) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa October 3

CP 7028 (9143) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa October 3

CP 7029 (9144) A Inter.Rhino,Iowa October 3

The second batch of (30) units

CP 9100 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa August 17

CP 9103 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 12

CP 9106 A Winnipeg,MB February 15

CP 9111 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 18

CP 9112 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 12

CP 9114 A Winnipeg,MB February 25

CP 9115 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa August 17

CP 9120 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 12

CP 9122 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa August 8

CP 9124 A Princeton,Iowa September 7

CP 9127 A Winnipeg,MB February 25

CP 9130 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa August 25

CP 9132 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa September 6

CP 9135 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa August 25

CP 9136 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 18

CP 9137 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 3

CP 9139 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa August 8

CP 9141 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 3

CP 9142 A Winnipeg,MB December 18

CP 9145 A Winnipeg,MB February 25

CP 9148 A Princeton,Iowa September 7

CP 9150 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 3

CP 9152 A Winnipeg,MB March 25

CP 9154 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa August 17

CP 9155 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa September 2

CP 9156 A Winnipeg,MB February 15

CP 9157 A Inter.Rhino,Iowa May 3

CP 9158 A Winnipeg,MB August 9

*For the replacement of CP 9129 and CP 9133 both scrapped (To be used in the 7000 series rebuilt to keep the numbers at (60) units)

UP 3551 (SD90's)

UP 3567 (SD90's)

www.canadianrailwayobservations.com

trace info came from the CRO Facebook group 

[Peterbiltguy1989@gmail.com]

On 5/17/2019 at 8:57 AM, WMATAC40LF said:

I had heard about the 2 UPs on another forum, but didn't know their numbers. Thanks for the info. 

It seems a little odd that CP plans to scrap the CSX AC44s (given that they could be put through a rebuild), but in the end of the day these sorts of decisions usually come down to what makes the most sense economically.  

What is up with 9538? 

[WMATAC40LF]

1 hour ago, Peterbiltguy1989@gmail.com said:

What is up with 9538? 

I can't find any info about it online. I'd say there's a good likelihood that what's left of it has already been (or will soon be scrapped). The UP ES44AC involved (5359) was apparently written off a couple of months ago.

[splendidwizardplayer]

On 11/11/19 CP showed off five special SD70ACUs for the Canadian miltary.

  https://www.cpr.ca/en/media/canadian-pacific-honours-canadian-us-military-with-special-locomotives

Edited November 16, 2019 by splendidwizardplayer

[thager]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/cp-rail-train-derails-near-lanigan-sask-sparking-fire-that-closes-highway-1.4721347

[splendidwizardplayer]

This maybe a good sign for the CP SD9043MACs

 

[WMATAC40LF]

8 hours ago, splendidwizardplayer said:

This maybe a good sign for the CP SD9043MACs

 

As mentioned earlier in this thread, all 58 of the MACs (plus the two they bought from UP) will be rebuilt. Most of the 30 units for this year have now been outshopped, and the other 30 are supposedly coming later in 2020.

[Shaun]

The preliminary investigation has found that some of the cars in the derailment in Saskatchewan where the newer type of cars which are supposed to be less likely to leak in a derailment. 

Although we don't know the exact cause of the derailment, it does bring up some concerns about the design of these new tank cars.  

If this happened in an urban areas, there could have been casualties, worse than what we saw in Quebec.  

Possibly more oversight on the maintenance procedures and track maintenance is requested to prevent derailment like this. 

Transport Canada doesn't seem to have much of an appetite for safer railways or more regulation. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/cp-train-crude-oil-derailment-saskatchewan-1.5393622

[dbdb]

We literally don't have any information on suspected causes so it's awfully premature to be discussing more oversight of maintenance procedures and track maintenance.  We'll have to wait for the TSB to start analyzing the data they're currently collecting.  Without more information it's just as likely to have been a moose running into the side of the train as a maintenance issue.

 

[TheAverageJoe]

On 5/17/2019 at 11:57 AM, WMATAC40LF said:

I had heard about the 2 UPs on another forum, but didn't know their numbers. Thanks for the info. 

It seems a little odd that CP plans to scrap the CSX AC44s (given that they could be put through a rebuild), but in the end of the day these sorts of decisions usually come down to what makes the most sense economically.  

all the CSX units have wreck or fire damaged. CP bought them for the good parts on them ( trucks, prime mover, traction motors etc.)

[TTC T6H-5307N 2252]

Sunday January 12, 2020

CP 7000 (9101) A Unknown,Iowa January 12 at 17:03pm

CP 7001 (9104) D Unknown,BC January 12 at 02:08am

CP 7002 (9108) A Unknown,BC January 12 at 11:58am

CP 7003 (9117) A Golden,BC January 8

CP 7004 (9149) A North Bend,BC January 12 at 08:53am

CP 7005 (9116) D Unknown,SK January 12 at 17:51pm

CP 7006 (9118) A Greeley,BC January 12 at 12:06pm

CP 7007 (9119) A St-Paul,Mn December 31

CP 7008 (9131) A St-Paul,Mn January 1

CP 7009 (9151) D Unknown,BC January 12 at 16:03pm

CP 7010 (9113) A Revelstoke,BC January 12 at 11:19am

CP 7011 (9109) A Alyth,AB January 12 at 13:29pm

CP 7012 (9134) D Unknown,BC January 12 at 15:26pm

CP 7013 (9126) A Revelstoke,BC January 12 at 12:30pm

CP 7014 (9121) A Sparwood,BC January 12 at 16:20pm

CP 7015 (9153) D Unknown,BC January 12 at 16:03pm

CP 7016 (9140) A Winnipeg,MB January 4

CP 7017 (9147) A Alyth,AB December 31

CP 7018 (9159) A Winnipeg,MB January 9

CP 7019 (9123) A Inter.Noyes,Mn January 2

CP 7020 (9125) A Inter.Minneapolis,Mn January 4

CP 7021 (9107) A St-Paul,Mn January 9

CP 7022 (9146) A Mactier,ON January 12 at 19:27pm

CP 7023 (9128) A Alderson,AB January 12 at 16:15pm

CP 6644 (9160) D Wylie,Texas January 12 at 16:52pm

CP 7025 (9102) A Revelstoke,BC January 12 at 12:30pm

CP 7026 (9105) D North Vancouver,BC January 12 at 10:39am

CP 7027 (9110) A Revelstoke,BC January 12 at 12:30pm

 

[WMATAC40LF]

On 1/12/2020 at 6:46 PM, TheAverageJoe said:

all the CSX units have wreck or fire damaged. CP bought them for the good parts on them ( trucks, prime mover, traction motors etc.)

Yeah I saw pictures of those units-I think some were even missing their engines! They're now parked in Winnipeg, alongside a bunch of other broken down power. 

[awstott]

Don't usually shoot CP.... This might be why - they're so ratty.

Building Train 201 by Andrew Stott, on Flickr