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24 minutes ago, tommike said:

they have something new add to new gflyer electric buses, there something on inside windsheild and black out side by rear?

I have no idea what you're referring to, and it's very unclear even what you are trying to refer to. Also, what is a "new gflyer"? I'm not aware of YRT having any "gflyer" vehicles in their fleet.

BTW, this is supposed to be a thread for "New Vehicle Deliveries", meaning vehicles that have either just been delivered, or are entering service for the first time. It's not for changes to buses that are already part of the fleet.

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Saw a couple of 60 Footers headed east on Interstate 69 in Michigan headed towards Port Huron, Sarnia and beyond. Sunday 8/7. Can’t get numbers easily driving a bus at 65mph in the opposite direction. Sorry.

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1 hour ago, G.A said:

Interesting that they have steered away from electrics for this order.

Another bus fan speculated 2201 and 2202 are XE40s.

According to a supposedly YRT bus fan veteran Joseph Jefferson Cowdrey

2201-2202 are slated as XE40s
2203-2206 are slated as XD40s
2241-2248 are slated as XD60s
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59 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said:

@H4 5600 You may laugh react but that's apparently according to a TOK Supervisor. That's what Cowdrey told us.

He's not a reliable source.

Same with anything that is just heard from a random driver or supervisor. BTW, because YRT contracts out operations, the drivers and supervisors don't work for the same company that orders the buses, and there's a couple layers of separation from the front-line staff and the admin/office staff. So rumours and wrong info can happen often.

Let's wait until we have a more firm source of info before assuming what the fleet numbers for this year's orders will be. There are going to be XE40, XD40, XD60, LFS Artic (for Viva), and potentially Mobility Plus cutaways, so lots of vehicles to fit into 99 digits. 

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57 minutes ago, Articulated said:

He's not a reliable source.

Same with anything that is just heard from a random driver or supervisor. BTW, because YRT contracts out operations, the drivers and supervisors don't work for the same company that orders the buses, and there's a couple layers of separation from the front-line staff and the admin/office staff. So rumours and wrong info can happen often.

Let's wait until we have a more firm source of info before assuming what the fleet numbers for this year's orders will be. There are going to be XE40, XD40, XD60, LFS Artic (for Viva), and potentially Mobility Plus cutaways, so lots of vehicles to fit into 99 digits. 

But most YRT new deliveries go through TOK. SW is TOK operated. The 2015 units were delivered there and prepped before spreading to Southeast.

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A 40 footer that I was unable to turn my head quick enough for a number as well as 60 footers 2249 and 2250 were headed towards the border at Port Huron today. Seen in the same general area as the ones from the other day in Michigan.

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6 hours ago, ns8401 said:

A 40 footer that I was unable to turn my head quick enough for a number as well as 60 footers 2249 and 2250 were headed towards the border at Port Huron today. Seen in the same general area as the ones from the other day in Michigan.

2250 was spotted as a hotel in Cambridge.

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36 minutes ago, PrimeTio said:

Around 5-6 shell XD40s are currently parked on flatbed trailers at new flyer in Winnipeg. Their going to be sent off to Crookston by tomorrow. Full production should be done by the first week of September.

Here’s my photos from winnipeg of the YRT XD40 

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14 minutes ago, PrimeTio said:

Does YRT not publicly send out their procurements like other agency’s to see what buses they ordered? It’s strange that they don’t.

They do send out procurements when they need additional buses. Though it looks like they simply added it onto existing orders since their purchasing cycle is usually for x amount of units for y amount of years. Which is cheaper to add more to an existing order than go through a procurement process again. 

Considering there are only two bus manufacturers that would qualify. Nova and New Flyer. 

Here is one example for 12 metre conventional buses:

https://york.bidsandtenders.ca/Module/Tenders/en/Tender/Detail/2be8d72b-0c23-4287-b67d-e3eefb4c9a87

There was also one years ago where they were seeking 51 articulated buses for rapid transit (Viva) and 28 for conventional transit. The order was split with Nova taking the Viva contract while New Flyer got the conventional transit. 

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32 minutes ago, PrimeTio said:

Does YRT not publicly send out their procurements like other agency’s to see what buses they ordered? It’s strange that they don’t.

They do public tenders, like multiple agencies and as required by law; however, lately they've been doing multi-year tenders, where they will do an award for 3-4 purchasing years to the same manufacturer. I know for sure these 2022 artics are part of the same multi-year tender that the 2020 artics were delivered under, and I believe the 40 foot diesels are also part of a multi-year tender.

I believe Regional Council has delegated authority to award larger tenders to staff, rather than have multiple contract award reports (that normally just automatically pass on consent anyway) clog up Council meeting agendas. Since the summary reports for these types of contract tenders may only appear on Council agendas every 6-12 months, information is no longer timely or detailed.

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