cmc12 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I drove by Can-Ar this morning. 2009 ElDorado EZ Rider MAX 991, 994, & 995 are now sitting at the Northeast corner of the Can-Ar parking lot! I couldn't see if they have been plated yet. They can be seen from Locke Street. The front fleet numbers are more bolded than those on their 8xx counterparts. Link to post Share on other sites
yrt+viva=1system Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Is the 2009 order all Ez-riders or is there also New Flyers? (I forgot what had been order as there were cancellations) Link to post Share on other sites
409 Thornton Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Well I guess that means my March trip will be to YRT land. Providing they are in service my March Break Link to post Share on other sites
Ber Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 aww man i was getting excited cuz i thought the NFI 9xx were arriving... My guess is that theres no change from last year right? btw how many of each did they order for this year? Link to post Share on other sites
vivablue5215 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 aww man i was getting excited cuz i thought the NFI 9xx were arriving...My guess is that theres no change from last year right? btw how many of each did they order for this year? I have it down as 18 D40LFs at least and 12 EZRs for this year. Don't know why they're numbered 99x though... Link to post Share on other sites
Orion VIII Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Since you haven't seemed to pay any attention the the buses from previous years () they are part of the Mobility Plus fleet and will be used for community routes. Link to post Share on other sites
Articulated Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Since you haven't seemed to pay any attention the the buses from previous years () they are part of the Mobility Plus fleet and will be used for community routes. Seems like you haven't either, the ELFs from 2003 and 2004 were numbered 38x and 48x respectively. Only the 2005 order (59x) was like 'this', because the D40LFs filled the 58x category. Plus, YRT still uses ELFs for MobilityPlus - they wouldn't override the ELF numbering for regular buses to be used on Community routes. Link to post Share on other sites
Orion VIII Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Seems like you haven't either, the ELFs from 2003 and 2004 were numbered 38x and 48x respectively. Only the 2005 order (59x) was like 'this', because the D40LFs filled the 58x category.Plus, YRT still uses ELFs for MobilityPlus - they wouldn't override the ELF numbering for regular buses to be used on Community routes. Just wait until you hear the full story. Link to post Share on other sites
vivablue5215 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Just wait until you hear the full story. Looking at this... http://www.york.ca/NR/rdonlyres/stu3z5ar42...rpt+1+cls+5.pdf Page 4 said that there was an earlier contract approval for 7 EZRs, which I assume is this order. Judging by the numberings cmc12 showed, I'm gonna assume Can-Ar is getting all 7. And since Can-Ar operates 522 and 589, you might be right these EZRs would be used in community routes...(though I SURE hope not). Link to post Share on other sites
MiExpress Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I think that using 30 foot buses on Community Routes might be a good start. I remember me and Orion VIII riding the 520/521 up in Newmarket, and the bus had a full seated load (we even had to stand to let people who needed seats sit down). Not to mention a full ELF makes for a cramped bus... Link to post Share on other sites
Articulated Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 If we're on the topic about Community Buses, IMO the day that they all become 30ft is when Can-Ar should stop operating them all. 520/521 can be picked up by First Student, 522 and possibly 589 can be picked up by Miller. Personally, the only reason that they're currently operated by Can-Ar is because they use ELFs. Link to post Share on other sites
MiExpress Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 If we're on the topic about Community Buses, IMO the day that they all become 30ft is when Can-Ar should stop operating them all. 520/521 can be picked up by First Student, 522 and possibly 589 can be picked up by Miller.Personally, the only reason that they're currently operated by Can-Ar is because they use ELFs. If YRT really wanted the community routes to be based out of different garages, then why didn't they just get on with it and move the ELF's around? Me thinks there's a different reason... Link to post Share on other sites
Articulated Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 If YRT really wanted the community routes to be based out of different garages, then why didn't they just get on with it and move the ELF's around?Me thinks there's a different reason... The ELFs need to be based out of Can-Ar, which is where MobilityPlus is based out of. ELFs rotate between the Community Buses and MobilityPlus service, just like any regular bus rotates between routes. Link to post Share on other sites
YRT-Guy Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 from my sources those 99x series EZ Riders are for community bus routes only, which would make sense as to why can-ar got them all. the seats inside the bus at the front run along the wall instead of facing forward and apparantley there is a rear door wheel chair ramp. Link to post Share on other sites
Waiting for 30 Minutes Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 from my sources those 99x series EZ Riders are for community bus routes only, which would make sense as to why can-ar got them all. the seats inside the bus at the front run along the wall instead of facing forward and apparantley there is a rear door wheel chair ramp. Now that I gotta see. Link to post Share on other sites
Ber Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 interesting...perimeter seating.... are they the new style seats that was discussed earlier this year? need some photos asap ! Link to post Share on other sites
general682002 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 The fleet # I got so far is from 991-995 as 5 have delivered, and yes they are strictly for Community Bus, although you never know it may end up running for reg. routes all depending what bus is available for service. Can-ar end up the entire contract for the Mobility service. As of the seats, no it's the same thing like your 2008 order. Difference on the new EZ-Rider Max are: Fire Suppression Perimeter seating Front and Rear ramp Smaller pushbar However, I've been told 5 of them but I'll wait for the other 2 on Monday to see if they are coming. Surprisedly, they are license but no farebox and INIT system install yet. I think that using 30 foot buses on Community Routes might be a good start. I remember me and Orion VIII riding the 520/521 up in Newmarket, and the bus had a full seated load (we even had to stand to let people who needed seats sit down). Not to mention a full ELF makes for a cramped bus... And the route 589 as well so they can stop borrowing the 619-621, 623 series as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Tom1122 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Okay, now where are YRT's hybrids? Link to post Share on other sites
general682002 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Okay, now where are YRT's hybrids? Not coming this year! Link to post Share on other sites
Ber Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 maybe next year... and hmmm fire suppression...definitely lesson learned from 622.... Link to post Share on other sites
general682002 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 and hmmm fire suppression...definitely lesson learned from 622.... 622 fire victim started from the defroster! And the Fire Suppression is for the engine! Link to post Share on other sites
cmc12 Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 The fleet # I got so far is from 991-995 as 5 have delivered, and yes they are strictly for Community Bus, although you never know it may end up running for reg. routes all depending what bus is available for service. I can also confirm that 992 & 993 are parked at the back of Can-Ar near the bus wash entrance with 567. Link to post Share on other sites
Enzo Aquarius Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Sweet, interesting twist to see the EZ Rider order go for Mobility Plus. Wonder if this is a result of an increase in service or demand? Link to post Share on other sites
general682002 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I can also confirm that 992 & 993 are parked at the back of Can-Ar near the bus wash entrance with 567. As I said, all 5 of them have delivered as I wrote down the fleet #. Sweet, interesting twist to see the EZ Rider order go for Mobility Plus. Wonder if this is a result of an increase in service or demand? Currently, they are using the 2006 EZ-Rider right now. Before back, they had Orion II then ELF. Link to post Share on other sites
Cimon8000 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I have it down as 18 D40LFs at least and 12 EZRs for this year.Don't know why they're numbered 99x though... 18 D40LF OR LFR? Is NFI still making 40LF this year????? I heard 40LF is no longer available eh Link to post Share on other sites
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