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TTC invites you on a sentimental streetcar journey

September 20, 2018

This Sunday, the TTC recognizes the 80th anniversary of the PCC streetcar in Toronto by taking one of its two vintage Red Rocket streetcars out for a ceremonial ride downtown.

PCC streetcars first entered service in the city on September 23, 1938. The PCC fleet, more than 740 strong at its peak, was one of the largest in North America and did a venerable job of serving millions of daily transit riders over generations.

The last PCC cars were retired from TTC service in 1995.

Rides on the vintage streetcar will be free of charge on Sunday.

PCC stands for Presidents' Conference Committee.

What: Vintage PCC #4549 will be taking a ceremonial journey downtown Toronto, fare-free.
Where: Serving stops along Queen Street, between Bathurst Street and Church Street.
When: Sunday, September 23, 2018 from approximately 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Why: The TTC is providing an opportunity for the public to take a trip back in time, take photos and celebrate 80 years since the first PCC streetcar entered in service in Toronto.

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On ‎9‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 1:34 PM, WMATAC40LF said:

4448 collided with an ambulance on Queens Quay and derailed.

We can add car 4473 to the list of sidelined Flexities. It was involved in yet another collision on Queens Quay (at Rees St) this afternoon.

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4500 is westbound on King St W at John St doing its first test run.

Now lets get it up on Queen On Sunday when the PCC is out. Saw no Flexity on Queen, but saw 4002 & 4

4473 needs a visit to the body shop based on the posting above sine I wasn't sure if it was that car. Saw an eastbound King car out of service at Spadina and no thoughts of taking a photos since I have a number of them for this car. As It cross Spadina, had to do a quick shot as it hit something and missing parts. Got one shot as a cycles kill the other shot
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Flexity #4481, one of the cars damaged in the flood on August 7, is back in service for the first time today, after a 50-day absence.

This leaves only 4419, 4471 & 4478 sidelined for now as a result of that event (with the latter two not even shipped to NY yet).

Flexity #4473, damaged in a minor collision on Queens Quay this past Saturday, Sep 22 is back in service today, as well.

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1 hour ago, ttc rider said:

Flexity #4473, damaged in a minor collision on Queens Quay this past Saturday, Sep 22 is back in service today, as well.

How is 4448, which was derailed in a September 19 Queens Quay collision doing?

 

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So part of the newly installed overhead panto rail in St Clair West collapsed just now, striking and entering 4486 in the front bulkhead (probably not severe damage to the car). The collapse is at the entry to the EB throughfare track (former spare track). Supposedly this isn't the first time one of the rails have fallen on a car - has also happened elsewhere too like the approach to the WB exit portal.

Delay notice is service suspended Oakwood to SCW with shuttles running, which doesn't make sense at all, as where will cars from St.Clair Stn turn back to it with SCW blocked up...? 

If the mainline overhead is still active, a simple station bypass can be done.

EDIT: New delay notice broadcast says they're bypassing.

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An overhead crew was at St Clair West this afternoon, walking cars through the frog into the EB track/WB platform. The EB track is still prone to dewiring and when it does, the worker will pull the pole and rewire it when the car stops. The WB platform's panto rails are all tied up with bungees to maybe the mounting brackets; may be in response to yesterday's incident.

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8 hours ago, 63 Ossington said:

An overhead crew was at St Clair West this afternoon, walking cars through the frog into the EB track/WB platform. The EB track is still prone to dewiring and when it does, the worker will pull the pole and rewire it when the car stops. The WB platform's panto rails are all tied up with bungees to maybe the mounting brackets; may be in response to yesterday's incident.

I was there earlier and saw this issue with the frog happening. Crews were there when I got there and left sometime later as another crew was coming to replace them. Tonight and all weekend, the existing system will be torn down. Some of the new system is up and you can see both systems at the portal entrace. It been held up by bungees and anchors have been change for the bracketssince they were coming out. A lot of changes have been made by the engineers, as some of the design fail or items for the system.

Once pans start to be use, there will never be a pole car east of Bathurst St, since the OS will be lower and the box rail holding the wire has no room for the wheel of the pole. First time seeing this system. Its a (3x2)? metal rail held up by brackets, with the wire is on the bottom of this rail. 

4483 was damage yesterday when the new system punch a hole in the cab front and the top, on the right hand side. It was caused by the car in front of it 4466?. Saw the photo of it. Will post some photos this weekend if I get time, but not of the damage car since its not mine in the first place.

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12 hours ago, drum118 said:

First time seeing this system. Its a (3x2)? metal rail held up by brackets, with the wire is on the bottom of this rail. 

If it's anything like Calgary's conductor rails there is no wire. The pan contacts the energized conductor rail and that's all there is to it. 

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On ‎9‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 10:21 AM, nfitz said:

How is 4448, which was derailed in a September 19 Queens Quay collision doing?

I am being told that it is currently on hold, waiting for a joint replacement part that is not in stock.

 

12 hours ago, drum118 said:

4483 was damage yesterday when the new system punch a hole in the cab front and the top, on the right hand side. It was caused by the car in front of it 4466?. Saw the photo of it. Will post some photos this weekend if I get time, but not of the damage car since its not mine in the first place.

The car that was damaged was actually 4486.

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7 minutes ago, M. Parsons said:

If it's anything like Calgary's conductor rails there is no wire. The pan contacts the energized conductor rail and that's all there is to it. 

Was told there is a wire in the grove section at the bottom by TTC crews and not my field of knowledge.

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1 minute ago, ttc rider said:

 The car that was damaged was actually 4486.

He doesn't quite read as I had already posted about that incident when it happened and reported the car number involved... two posts above his. And had previously posted photos of the panto conductor rails on the previous page. 

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13 minutes ago, 63 Ossington said:

He doesn't quite read as I had already posted about that incident when it happened and reported the car number involved... two posts above his. And had previously posted photos of the panto conductor rails on the previous page. 

I did read above before seeing it first hand and one reason I went to the loop since it wasn't on my trip list for the day. I was posting what I saw first hand and was told, as well getting cars number mix up for some reason. I see no photos as noted.

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28 minutes ago, drum118 said:

I did read above before seeing it first hand and one reason I went to the loop since it wasn't on my trip list for the day. I was posting what I saw first hand and was told, as well getting cars number mix up for some reason. I see no photos as noted.

On 9/3/2018 at 1:27 AM, 63 Ossington said:

Spent a few mins to check out the new overhead throughout St Clair West yesterday (Saturday) - majority of the station loop appears complete; most work needed is the EB 512 platform area. The traction contact bars are suspended lower than the existing trolley overhead (obviously for clearance) so I assume for the time being that will be kept to allow compatibility for C's. However they can also immediately start dismantling it upon activation of the contact bars so we'll see which route they take.

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On 9/29/2018 at 12:40 PM, drum118 said:

Was told there is a wire in the grove section at the bottom by TTC crews and not my field of knowledge.

As Martin wrote, there is no additional wire. And if you look at your photos, there no location for an additional wire to be installed. There are special locations/sections where power feeds are attached to it - perhaps that's what they meant.

 

The system uses an aluminum contact rail, which is already quite conductive. There is no need for anything else.

 

Dan

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7 hours ago, smallspy said:

As Martin wrote, there is no additional wire. And if you look at your photos, there no location for an additional wire to be installed. There are special locations/sections where power feeds are attached to it - perhaps that's what they meant.

 

The system uses an aluminum contact rail, which is already quite conductive. There is no need for anything else.

 

Dan

There is a grove in the bottom of the channel that can be seen in the photo and that is where the wire is to go. This is from an overhead crew who doing the work. Not my field and going by what was told to me. You can see where the power connections are in one of the photos. 

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So an unforeseen service change (or at least not previously announced to my knowledge or awareness): St Clair West is bypassed by 512 cars, buses continue to service loop. But this afternoon a Flexity (didn't catch the fleet number) became disabled at the bottom of the inbound EB portal. Not sure if it's overhead related or not, but there was at least one service truck there in front of it. Cars nearby are still powered, but still holding, even in the leaving direction all the way through to Oakwood where EB cars are turning back to Gunns.

Also, pantos are up on St. Clair as of today, and the arcing through insulators under power is disconcertingly massive....

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1 hour ago, 63 Ossington said:

. But this afternoon a Flexity (didn't catch the fleet number) became disabled at the bottom of the inbound EB portal. Not sure if it's overhead related or not, but there was at least one service truck there in front of it. Cars nearby are still powered, but still holding, even in the leaving direction all the way through to Oakwood where EB cars are turning back to Gunns.

Flexity #4475 was the car that failed eastbound at Bathurst. It was on a PM peak tripper run just coming in from Leslie and it happened as soon as it reached St. Clair and turned east heading down into the portal at St. Clair West station on its first run in the afternoon.

I am not sure what the issue was - maybe one of our well - informed colleagues can fill us in? - but the damage was serious enough that the car ended up being coupled up with the one behind it (Flexity #4441) and pushed out of the way. Saw both of them coupled up at St. Clair & Yonge just after 6 PM tonight.

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3 hours ago, drum118 said:

There is a grove in the bottom of the channel that can be seen in the photo and that is where the wire is to go. This is from an overhead crew who doing the work. Not my field and going by what was told to me. You can see where the power connections are in one of the photos. 

The grooves are to help clean the pan contact strips.

 

There are a lot of fields that aren't yours Dave, and yet you still try and pass it off as if it is.

 

By the way - not one of your photos shows where the contact wire feeds in. Not one.

 

Dan

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1 hour ago, smallspy said:

The grooves are to help clean the pan contact strips.

 

There are a lot of fields that aren't yours Dave, and yet you still try and pass it off as if it is.

 

By the way - not one of your photos shows where the contact wire feeds in. Not one.

 

Dan

Calling the kettle black and wouldn't talk.

Of course there is no wire there now since rest of the system not in place...........how dumb to make that statement.

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4 hours ago, ttc rider said:

Flexity #4475 was the car that failed eastbound at Bathurst. It was on a PM peak tripper run just coming in from Leslie and it happened as soon as it reached St. Clair and turned east heading down into the portal at St. Clair West station on its first run in the afternoon.

I am not sure what the issue was - maybe one of our well - informed colleagues can fill us in? - but the damage was serious enough that the car ended up being coupled up with the one behind it (Flexity #4441) and pushed out of the way. Saw both of them coupled up at St. Clair & Yonge just after 6 PM tonight.

All cars on St Clair must run on pantograph only. No more pole operation until further notice. Once cars turn off of Bathurst, they must switch from pole to pantograph. 

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