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15 hours ago, skyfirenet said:

The problem with Parliament is the sections where there isn't track. You will never get streetcar tracks back on Bloor to link it to the Castle Frank on the surface and there is no room along Parliament to put in a portal to take advantage of the unused streetcar deck on the Rosedale Valley portion of the viaduct for an underground loop at Castle Frank. And that's before you start debating the issue of where the southern terminus is going to be.

Waterfront East LRT, run it into Union

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16 hours ago, skyfirenet said:

You do realize that it's six lanes because of the two left turn lanes at Parliament, right?

Yes, part of it is. Some of it is simply 6 lanes (plus 2 bike lanes).

 

Only need one turn lane - which can be shared with streetcar traffic, unless we want to make Parliament have it's own streetcar ROW - in which case don't want anyone turning left here - push them down Sherbourne or Jarvis - which don't have streetcars.

 

Not sure why most on westbound Bloor would even want to go down Parliament unless just going a few blocks. By that far south DVP is probably a better option, and come off at Richmond. Or make it easier to take Bayview from westbound Danforth, which currently requires you to go all the way up to Pottery, or do a U-turn just as you get on the bridge, onto the DVP northbound, and come off at Bayview/Bloor, and then onto southbound Bayview. Must be a way to add another ramp to that cloverleaf.

 

Waterfront East LRT, run it into Union

Possible. Would also be tempting to run into into proposed Line 3, to provide a better subway connection. Possibly just turn west on Queen into Moss Park station - or perhaps to McCaul loop.

 

Or turn somehow down to Sumach station.

 

Or here's a neat one - turn east on Front St or Mill Street, into the West Donlands and terminate at the combined East Harbour GO/TTC station. Finally push some transit into the West Donlands, instead of around the edges. Though a bit of a walk to the TTC part of the station. I wonder if there's a way to go past Sumach station on the way to East Harbour station (western entrance). I'm not convinced that a single station at Sherbourne between Queen and Sumach is the best choice - I'd be tempted to add one at Parliament, and perhaps shift Sherbourne to Jarvis.

 

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17 hours ago, nfitz said:

Possible. Would also be tempting to run into into proposed Line 3, to provide a better subway connection. Possibly just turn west on Queen into Moss Park station - or perhaps to McCaul loop.

 

Or turn somehow down to Sumach station.

 

Or here's a neat one - turn east on Front St or Mill Street, into the West Donlands and terminate at the combined East Harbour GO/TTC station. Finally push some transit into the West Donlands, instead of around the edges. Though a bit of a walk to the TTC part of the station. I wonder if there's a way to go past Sumach station on the way to East Harbour station (western entrance). I'm not convinced that a single station at Sherbourne between Queen and Sumach is the best choice - I'd be tempted to add one at Parliament, and perhaps shift Sherbourne to Jarvis.

 

 

I never really considered Line 3 since it's so far off into the future, however, that's not a bad option. However, it doesn't serve anything south of Queen, and that area could use some revitalization. 

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1 hour ago, Streety McCarface said:

I never really considered Line 3 since it's so far off into the future, however, that's not a bad option. However, it doesn't serve anything south of Queen, and that area could use some revitalization. 

Line 3? Sumach station is just south of King and Sumach.  East Harbour (aka Broadview) station is Eastern and Broadview.

Not sure it's much further in the future than putting in a Parliament service. In the new 5-year corporate plan, TTC is targeting 2028 for the Relief line, along with the Yonge line extension and the Sheppard East LRT.

 

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On 1/19/2018 at 8:50 PM, nfitz said:

 

Only need one turn lane - which can be shared with streetcar traffic, unless we want to make Parliament have it's own streetcar ROW - in which case don't want anyone turning left here - push them down Sherbourne or Jarvis - which don't have streetcars.

Did you ever stop to consider that Parliament currently handles the overflow from the traffic turning down Ted Rogers Way and Sherbourne?

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On 21/01/2018 at 8:37 AM, skyfirenet said:

Did you ever stop to consider that Parliament currently handles the overflow from the traffic turning down Ted Rogers Way and Sherbourne?

What does my horizontal velocity have to do with this?

 

Cars can take Church or other lane on Parliament.

 

I don't see enough cars in AM peak on Parliament at Carlton to believe that is significant. The busiest section is south of Dundas, not north of Carlton.

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4 hours ago, nfitz said:

I don't see enough cars in AM peak on Parliament at Carlton to believe that is significant. The busiest section is south of Dundas, not north of Carlton.

Well, ten years ago when my grandpa was living near Chinatown and we would drive down there to visit, we would get off the DVP at Bayview/Bloor and take Bloor to Parliament and Parliament to Carlton and Carlton/College across to the Chinatown area. I was able to recognize the scenery along this route - including the point where Carlton becomes College, or even before I found out what route the cars took or what the tracks on Carlton were even for.

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On 1/18/2018 at 11:51 PM, nfitz said:

I was thinking more of the two final assembly lines in Thunder Bay.  The line(s) in Mexico have already been supplemented by also doing this work in Vienna and also in Kamouraska where work is done on the on the GO cars, and was where T1 and TR work was done.

 

I'd expect they are less at risk of loss of skill in any of these 3 locations.

Surely they've long-since proven 30 a year.  In the 3 months from November through January cars 4451 though 4462 were delivered. With presumably some more to come still in January. That's 12 cars.

 

In the 3 months before that (August to October) that's 10 cars. 

 

So that 22 cars in 6 months.

We have seen the year end bursts of cars from them before. If we're taking 3 month best case averages they're still at about 1 car per week which they still haven't maintained for a year to date. A far far cry from "No, you do as soon as you can, now that Bombardier has proven they can at least spit out about 60 a year." which you seem to have forgotten saying a few days ago.

By the way, it's January 23, 4460, 4461, 4462 have been delivered. 4462 almost two weeks ago. Where's 4463 and 4464?

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4461 is finally in service on 504 at Dundas W station. 4462 up on St Clair doing testing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First time that I know that either car has been out of the yard since last Friday. 4461 has been in and out of the yard a number times waiting for another bay to open up for what every.

 

 

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I counted approximately 10-12 Flexity cars on 504 and about 6-8 on 514 during my trip aboard 4433 on 504 run #19 from Dundas West to Broadview from 2:20 to 3:30 in the afternoon. Good progress getting them into service after delivery. Now, if only the deliveries could speed up and we could replace the rest of the legacy fleet.

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Streetcar pole damaged

 

Video is from YouTuber JayJr2007. Here's the description: "Published on 18 Feb 2018Canadian Pacific 8891, CP 8619, CP 8531 (Train 420 - Thunder Bay to Toronto) (374 axles, 5500ft) crossing the bridge over Highway 400 with the pantograph of a TTC fully extended. Apparently at some point the rope holding down the pantograph came loose and it was damaged smacking into bridges along the way. They sort out the problem in the Mactier yard and depart after receiving their clearance."


Note: it's not the pantograph. It's the pole.

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2:37 - you can see the streetcar passing by on the flatcar. It's really hard to see but you mugmi be able to look closely and see the pole extended;

7:15 - the engineer explains the issue of the pole being extended;

11:30 - damage to pole noted;

A few seconds after 19:44 the streetcar passes by. I tried to stop the video and varcc the number but it's hard tt see clearly. I think it's 4466.

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5 minutes ago, Allandale25 said:

Streetcar pole damaged

 

Video is from YouTuber JayJr2007. Here's the description: "Published on 18 Feb 2018Canadian Pacific 8891, CP 8619, CP 8531 (Train 420 - Thunder Bay to Toronto) (374 axles, 5500ft) crossing the bridge over Highway 400 with the pantograph of a TTC fully extended. Apparently at some point the rope holding down the pantograph came loose and it was damaged smacking into bridges along the way. They sort out the problem in the Mactier yard and depart after receiving their clearance."


Note: it's not the pantograph. It's the pole.

Video markers:

2:37 - you can see the streetcar passing by on the flatcar. It's really hard to see but you mugmi be able to look closely and see the pole extended;

7:15 - the engineer explains the issue of the pole being extended;

11:30 - damage to pole noted;

A few seconds after 19:44 the streetcar passes by. I tried to stop the video and varcc the number but it's hard tt see clearly. I think it's 4466.

That would be 4466. Over in the Bombardier Flexity Deliveries thread, @dowlingm posted a photo of 4466 being delivered - with the pole flying high.

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I'm curious as to who would be at fault for this? I guess BBD should have secured it out of the factory, but as per section 5 of the "Freight Car Safety Rules", shouldn't this have been noted in a roll-by inspection? Assuming one is done when the car is loaded. 

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7 hours ago, Doppelkupplung said:

I'm curious as to who would be at fault for this? I guess BBD should have secured it out of the factory, but as per section 5 of the "Freight Car Safety Rules", shouldn't this have been noted in a roll-by inspection? Assuming one is done when the car is loaded. 

This would be CP's fault. CP is responsible for ensuring that the cargo is properly secured on the rail cars they are moving. A roll-by inspection may not have noticed this if the pole came undone while enroute. If this train would have rolled through a High-Wide Detector after the pole came undone, and before the first bridge encountered after the pole came undone, it would have been noticed and secured earlier.

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4466 was towed back to Leslie today. Based upon initial inspection, the pole sustained severe damage to the pole and damage to other roof components and body parts. 

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3 hours ago, dowlingm said:

Anyone know why any Flexities are signed in as 510 today? Some seem to be just hanging out at Exhibition Loop.

http://ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Route_diversions/510_Rail.jsp

https://www.transsee.ca/routeveh?a=ttc&r=510#MapMain

Because it is unscheduled construction, and operators who were supposed to be on 510 have to work somewhere. Similarly, the replacement bus service for 510 is not scheduled either and is operated at the divisional level. That is the "TTC way".

I am a bit surprised they didn't put out some of those Flexities on 504 or 511 instead of having 11 extras on 509 for a total of 18(!) of them running at the same time.

Edit: there are now a few Flexities  running as unscheduled extras on 511 Bathurst as well, so they probably realized that keeping 18 cars for 509 is a bit excessive.

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We've hit a milestone this Saturday afternoon, with a record number of 60 Flexity cars in service concurrently, out of 65 available: 14 on 510, 7 on 509, 7 on 514, 15 on 512 (12 scheduled + 3 extras due to the subway closure) and 17 on 504. All in service, except 4410, 4411, 4418, 4419 & 4424.

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1 hour ago, Mike said:

Just saw 4415 towing 4469 eastbound on Queen

Interesting, thank you for the info! So I take it that they are no longer driving the new arrivals under their own power from Hillcrest to Leslie.

I am wondering why that is.

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On ‎3‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 4:33 AM, leylandvictory2 said:

maybe it is not completed yet.  

That's my assumption, too. What would be more interesting to know is whether Bombardier is cutting corners to meet delivery deadlines and uses TTC resources to complete work that should have been done in Thunder Bay. 

What exactly is being done at Leslie to make them operable?

 

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