MK78 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 I saw a couple Flexity's going along Queen near Russel NIS, with a bunch of TTC staff in safety vests inside, so they are testing stuff I guess... Also saw another NIS Flexity drop off some TTC brass at Harvey's at Queen & Coxwell, including CEO Rick Leary & Deputy CEO Kristen Watson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 TTC says it’s ‘perplexed’ by damage to Queen streetcars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 If the damage was significant, I would think that the operator would have noticed. Those cars are very quiet and smooth, impacts would be noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Latest update says 501 streetcar service will not likely resume until Monday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, Shaun said: If the damage was significant, I would think that the operator would have noticed. Those cars are very quiet and smooth, impacts would be noticed. If the operators noticed immediately, they would have pinpointed a particular location. 5 minutes ago, CLRV4002 said: Latest update says 501 streetcar service will not likely resume until Monday morning. It sounds like they don't have enough parts to repair all the streetcars. Some would have to be sidelined till they all get fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 4581 approaching Long Branch loop. The eastbound shuttle buses on Lake Shore are signed up for Neville. Does this mean that all the shuttles are running Neville-Long Branch? WIthout being able to enter Humber loop, there's no really good place to short turn buses in the west end. Turning at Roncesvalles will overload through buses west of there, as the new condos around Windermere have made the Queensway stops pretty busy. I guess they could do Ellis Park-Lake Shore-Windermere. However the TTC service alert doesn't really say anything other than the buses are running via WIndermere and Lake Shore to route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Ed T. said: 4581 approaching Long Branch loop. The eastbound shuttle buses on Lake Shore are signed up for Neville. Does this mean that all the shuttles are running Neville-Long Branch? WIthout being able to enter Humber loop, there's no really good place to short turn buses in the west end. Turning at Roncesvalles will overload through buses west of there, as the new condos around Windermere have made the Queensway stops pretty busy. I guess they could do Ellis Park-Lake Shore-Windermere. However the TTC service alert doesn't really say anything other than the buses are running via WIndermere and Lake Shore to route. Yes buses are running from Long Branch Loop to Neville Park Loop. Some short turns at Bathurst, Roncy and Humber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Wouldn’t it have helped if the TTC activated the GO protocol to/from Long Branch and Mimico GO Stations in the west and advise passengers in the Beaches to take the 64 Main up to Main Stn. or Danforth GO and ride on a TTC fare there as well. Or at least add some extra service to the Humber Bay and Beach express buses and allow them to be used on a regular fare. Something to mitigate the situation other than just shuttle buses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Does the GO protocol work both ways? I've only heard of GO passengers being allowed on the TTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Sid said: Does the GO protocol work both ways? I've only heard of GO passengers being allowed on the TTC. Yes, sometimes during unscheduled subway closures or serious delays the TTC allows passengers to take GO transit on a TTC fare. I think encouraging passengers to use Long Branch, Mimico and Danforth GO Stations during rush hour could help somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 4447 has just signed on to 501 and is moving eastbound along Queen 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Due to the on going problem on Queen st., the CLRVs that were scheduled to run on Saturday have been canceled. Unknown at this time for Sunday. They will still run on Bathurst. The problem has been found. Bad joint. Empty car fine. Fully loaded car not so much. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, drum118 said: Due to the on going problem on Queen st., the CLRVs that were scheduled to run on Saturday have been canceled. Unknown at this time for Sunday. They will still run on Bathurst. The problem has been found. Bad joint. Empty car fine. Fully loaded car not so much. That was a point someone made after the first inspection run came up empty. Maybe TTC should keep some sandbags available at Leslie Barns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, drum118 said: The problem has been found. Bad joint. Empty car fine. Fully loaded car not so much. Ah! Someone forgot to put the sandbags on the test car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, drum118 said: The problem has been found. Bad joint. Empty car fine. Fully loaded car not so much. It isn't a joint. The rail itself is fine. The issue is with a concrete slab within the track allowance on the west side of the Don River Bridge. They found that it would move 2 to 3 inches as a car passed over it. Dan 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, smallspy said: It isn't a joint. The rail itself is fine. The issue is with a concrete slab within the track allowance on the west side of the Don River Bridge. They found that it would move 2 to 3 inches as a car passed over it. Dan So is it east of where the King/Queen tracks intersect? If so, why didn’t it impact King streetcars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christine Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, smallspy said: It isn't a joint. The rail itself is fine. The issue is with a concrete slab within the track allowance on the west side of the Don River Bridge. They found that it would move 2 to 3 inches as a car passed over it. Dan Is around it here or am I off base? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, CLRV4002 said: So is it east of where the King/Queen tracks intersect? If so, why didn’t it impact King streetcars? It’s probably after the streetcar tracks split off and the two lines go their separate ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, CLRV4002 said: So is it east of where the King/Queen tracks intersect? If so, why didn’t it impact King streetcars? The tracks intersect on the bridge (see the underneath of the bridge in Streetview). West side of the bridge, on Queen, would be between King and River on Queen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oc4526 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, nfitz said: The tracks intersect on the bridge (see the underneath of the bridge in Streetview). West side of the bridge, on Queen, would be between King and River on Queen. 1 hour ago, bus_7246 said: It’s probably after the streetcar tracks split off and the two lines go their separate ways 1 hour ago, christine said: Is around it here or am I off base? Christine your about right Heres a st view looking east (west side of the bridge at the junction) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 If the cause is between King and River is it a possibility we could see a limited service tomorrow or Sunday between Parliament and Long Branch? Looping via Parliament ,Dundas and Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 15 hours ago, christine said: Is around it here or am I off base? I haven't been told the exact location - just that it is on the west approach of the bridge, between King and the abutment. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 16 hours ago, smallspy said: It isn't a joint. The rail itself is fine. The issue is with a concrete slab within the track allowance on the west side of the Don River Bridge. They found that it would move 2 to 3 inches as a car passed over it. Dan So how would they stop it from flexing so much to prevent further damage to cars that pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Shaun said: So how would they stop it from flexing so much to prevent further damage to cars that pass? If it's right at the joint, looking at Streeview, modifying the bridge, in the way they modified the joint and abutment just next to that for King, for the streetcar lanes would work (recall that streetcars didn't use that piece for months because of problems with the bridge). Looks like that's been an accident waiting to happen for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 22 hours ago, Shaun said: So how would they stop it from flexing so much to prevent further damage to cars that pass? It may not be an issue of flexing. Perhaps all they needed to do was drill and grout some anchors to prevent it from bouncing. I don't have enough information to know exactly what the cause was, nor what the fix was, so frankly this may all just be idle speculation. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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