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6 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

Have they ever asked drivers if they wanted extra hours? I'll bet alot would take the over time?

 

And you don't necessarily need to ask those working that night.

 

3 hours ago, Centralsmt said:

Tom

By mid afternoon today OC had tweeted over 50 cancellations in service, that doesn't include the ones they didn't notify, that is on probably the busiest shopping day of the year . They can barely provide a scheduled service on any given day due to a shortage of drivers or vehicles, what makes you think they would be able to find enough drivers to run any semblance of a scheduled service at 2am in the morning???

of 1600 drivers

 On weekday service about 1500 drivers are needed.

Saturday Service is about 600-700

Sunday is about 500 or so.

 

There are no driver shortages, but it's weather the city wants to pay for it or not 

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^ With reduced statutory holiday service there could very well only be 450-500 drivers working on January 1st. Meaning there are at least 1,100 drivers who aren't working that day and could work on New Year's Eve.

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5 hours ago, 1overcosc said:

^ With reduced statutory holiday service there could very well only be 450-500 drivers working on January 1st. Meaning there are at least 1,100 drivers who aren't working that day and could work on New Year's Eve.

I agree but OCTranspo10 has put its finger on it, it's all about whether the city wants to pay for it. 

While OC doesn't do a strict private sector profit and loss analysis when it looks at route performance it does take into consideration revenue when deciding what service to provide. 

This all goes back to politicians being unable to let go of the fiction that because once upon a time private companies provide transit that it might do so again. It's the persistent refusal to accept that transit is a public good like hospitals and schools and roads and therefore should be paid for from general revenue and not be a pseudo commercial operation. 

That taints their whole thinking. Not blaming OC management they can do only so much with their budget, it's about the province refusing to take its responsibilities as they are the ones with the real revenue tools, the city can only tinker at the margins.

This is why when there's a real societal need to ensure maximum transit service (new year eve and day) we just can't and won't. 

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On ‎2016‎/‎12‎/‎18 at 0:09 AM, OCtranspo10 said:

 

of 1600 drivers

 On weekday service about 1500 drivers are needed.

Saturday Service is about 600-700

Sunday is about 500 or so.

 

There are no driver shortages, but it's weather the city wants to pay for it or not 

From what I have been told from a very reliable source driver shortages were the explanation for the excessive amount of cancellations last weekend

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5 hours ago, JCL said:

One of the train sets had derailed shortly before all 3 were replaced with the Alstom units.  Although there is no indication from this URL, there was talk that specific unit was a write off.  Anyone know if that's still the case?

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12 hours ago, JCL said:

Interesting that they are selling off the three Bombardier Talents. I would hope they keep at least one for historical purposes like they do with some old buses and the streetcar. 

Going to be a tough sell. Especially with the kind of wear and tear involved in the train sets. 

Hopefully the qualified bidder will take good care of these Bombardier Talent trains. Especially when the O-Train was a trial before they hoped to further expand. 

11 hours ago, Centralsmt said:

From what I have been told from a very reliable source driver shortages were the explanation for the excessive amount of cancellations last weekend

With Christmas holidays, I guess some really wanted to take the day off by calling in sick. Or just didn't want to travel the long distance depending on distance from the assigned transit yard. 

Though, I do think driver shortages shouldn't really happen. Especially when people depend on them to get from Point A to B in a timely manner. 

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I would have liked to see at least the two working Talents used for the Stage 2 airport service (as opposed to that stupid trunk/shuttle arrangement that was proposed that IMO has no hope of ever working), that way a whole bunch of new equipment wouldn't need to be purchased all at once. Then again, this is the city of Ottawa we are talking about here.

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12 minutes ago, HB_1024 said:

I would have liked to see at least the two working Talents used for the Stage 2 airport service (as opposed to that stupid trunk/shuttle arrangement that was proposed that IMO has no hope of ever working), that way a whole bunch of new equipment wouldn't need to be purchased all at once. Then again, this is the city of Ottawa we are talking about here.

Would be nice , though they are incompatible with the lints (Operational and Compatability issues with mixed fleet operations) 

Givin that the Talents do not meet current Transport Canada Regulations I can see them heading back over the pond ( more then likely Db or another rail operator in Europe)

 

 

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Any news on the STO possible strike? In the news it was mentionned that they were deciding back during the week of December 19th if it should be deemed an Essential Service or not, but no news since if this was passed.

Also, any pictures of the fare gate installations at the Trillium line stations?

Thanks.

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1 hour ago, sseguin said:

Also, any pictures of the fare gate installations at the Trillium line stations?

Thanks.

Here's Confederation Stn taken back at the beginning of December. Greenboro is becoming a Fare Paid Stn ( must pay to enter both the bus platform and Trillium line (extension to the Main Entrance. )

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12 hours ago, sseguin said:

Thanks for the picture. Any idea which fare gate system is being used? Will it be the same the TTC have in their subway stations or similar?

OC Transpo is purchasing the faregates from Scheidt and Bachmann, the same company that made the TTC gates. I expect them to be the same model (PG20 I believe) that the TTC has, but with the addition of a barcode reader to read bus transfers. They are also purchasing TVMs from Scheidt & Bachmann, but unlike Toronto's SSRMs, these models will be off-the-shelf and take cash and/or coins.

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4 hours ago, OCtranspo10 said:

Indy is open on New Years Eve for Extra's only. Possibility for Double Deckers to be coming out :) 

Highly unlikely as Oc doesn't want the DD's out late at night (even though it's happened in the past) 

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7 hours ago, OCtranspo10 said:

Indy is open on New Years Eve for Extra's only. Possibility for Double Deckers to be coming out :) 

 

2 hours ago, Oc4526 said:

Highly unlikely as Oc doesn't want the DD's out late at night (even though it's happened in the past) 

Confirmed. No double deckers will be scheduled for tomorrow evening, despite extras being dispatched out of Industrial Garage. 

There are 150 additional extras out tomorrow night. Any of these runs that start out of the garage prior to 8pm will have one inbound scheduled trip (an additional supplement trip to the existing Saturday schedule) on a route that goes through Downtown before becoming an extra for post-event activities (similar to Canada Day after the fireworks). 

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An article regarding the Baseline Road rapid transit corridor: 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-baseline-road-transit-corridor-concerns-1.3919275

The cost is $160 million dollars to build 13.8 kilometres of bus rapid transit. At the same time, it will require a lot of property acquisition and dealing with opposition from residents against this project. Along with how some prefer curbside transit stops instead of median. 

It is going to be a difficult and long battle before anything does get built.

Comments on the situation: 

I know that the current route 118 has reliability problems. Especially if one doesn't show up, another one will have to carry the additional load. Along with traffic during certain time periods also not helping with reliability problems. I know one friend he would simply take a different route to the college. Especially when it is well known that 118 is the most direct way to get to Algonquin from Billings Bridge. 

Route 111 also goes there, but takes a much longer path towards the college. It drops people off at Baseline Station where as with the 118, it drops people off in front of residence and register's office when the college is open of course. 

Final comments:

It is going to be a long battle before any construction starts. Especially when they are hoping for 2018 to start work. It may be delayed another few years if there is funding issues or opposition still going on. Especially with the property acquisition issue. 

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