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[corynv]

2 hours ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

Photo's look great! Though I hope OC still goes with a diesel variant since come winter the battery won't last as long since the flow of electrons will be reduced *due to cold temperatures*, not to mention the battery is a reason as to why we're retiring the hybrids after 10 years. Of course, that's just my opinion.

We've got 82 diesel Novas on the way for next year. This is just looking at something for the future (hopefully we'll have a fully electric system of buses and trains eventually. Plus this these buses by Nova, they can recharge in like 5 or so minutes (at least that's what Nova claims)).

[Loud-Invero]

Also quick question, does anyone know when Local Routes stopped extending to downtown during Peak periods? For example obviously Routes 152, 172, 178, etc. used to extend the downtown during Peak periods, eventually they just stopped showing that Routes extended to downtown during Peak periods on their maps and nowadays if you look on their website, you'll notice for Route 82 that three trips between six and eight extend to Laurier station as Route 91. *Before it used to be Route 95*

Does anyone have a definite date?

[CanadaGoose]

15 hours ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

Photo's look great! Though I hope OC still goes with a diesel variant since come winter the battery won't last as long since the flow of electrons will be reduced *due to cold temperatures*, not to mention the battery is a reason as to why we're retiring the hybrids after 10 years. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Well, they’ve been leaving the hybrids out in an old garage with no proper temperature control for them.

If they want to go hybrid or electric, they should at least build a proper new garage (with enough clearance for the buses they are putting in, industrial  )

[tomsbuspage]

16 hours ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

Also quick question, does anyone know when Local Routes stopped extending to downtown during Peak periods? For example obviously Routes 152, 172, 178, etc. used to extend the downtown during Peak periods, eventually they just stopped showing that Routes extended to downtown during Peak periods on their maps and nowadays if you look on their website, you'll notice for Route 82 that three trips between six and eight extend to Laurier station as Route 91. *Before it used to be Route 95*

Does anyone have a definite date?

I checked my old maps and it doesn't look as if there was a definite date, as it was more of a gradual process.  From what I can tell, OC Transpo started cutting the local routes back to the suburbs in 2004, when the east-end local routes stopped beginning at Lebreton Station in the afternoon.  The routes slowly disappeared from Albert and Slater Streets until 2009, after which only route 176 continued through downtown to Hurdman Station.  This continued until June 2018, after the 176 had been renumbered as route 80.

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Fall Service Changes - 2004:

Congestion on Slater Street in the afternoon rush hour has increased steadily in recent years – last winter bus delays and slowdowns were frequent. This affected customers waiting for buses in the downtown area, and had a major impact on the reliability of the entire transit system.

Some of the problems were created because there were simply too many buses on Slater Street which could not handle the capacity in the afternoon peak period.

In September several changes will be introduced to speed up service and improve schedule reliability by reducing the number of buses operating on Slater Street in the afternoon.

The busiest bus routes and trips will not be adjusted – but routes that carry fewer passengers per trip will no longer serve the downtown core in the afternoon. These routes will start their PM homebound trips at Hurdman Station:

Routes:    124    126    140    148    149

To catch these bus routes, take any other bus on Slater Street to Hurdman Station where you can make your transfer. All Slater Street buses travel to Hurdman, so there is a wide choice of routes and a high frequency of service. Note that green Express routes require Express Fare.

Morning peak period service to downtown will not be changed – the above routes will continue to travel to Albert Street and LeBreton in the morning.

 

[CanadaGoose]

Just in case, no one on this forum doesn’t have octranspo.com as their homepage.

https://www.octranspo.com/routes/routing_changes_starting_monday_oct_15

 

Excerpt:

Routing changes starting Monday, Oct. 15

 

Routes 11, 12, 32, 34, 38, 91, 95, 103, 104, 151, 153 and 199 are changing on Monday, Oct. 15. We’re also adding trips on routes 80, 89, 175 and a school trip from De La Salle on Route 9.

Change highlights

• Modified routing downtown, improved Transitway connections and select trip extensions on Routes 11 and 12
• Increased service to Montreal Station (Montreal Road 174 ramp): Routes 32, 34, 38, 91, 95, 103, 104, and 199 will serve the station in both directions at all times
• Route 151 becomes Route 153. Some Route 153 trips are extended to run from Bayshore to Tunney’s Pasture

Changes by route

Route	What’s changing	Change details
9	New afternoon school trip from De La Salle	A special trip departing De La Salle at 3:27 pm will be added
11	Modified routing downtown Local service also added on Route 153 to improve connections to Wellington and Richmond in the west	Will use Slater/Albert and Metcalfe for convenient connections to Transitway service and Route 12 at Queen and Metcalfe. Some trips on Route 11 Parliament extended from Elgin to Mackenzie King Station (Rideau Centre). Some Route 153 trips (see below) extended east to Tunney’s Pasture and west to Bayshore. These trips will add service alongside the western portion of Route 11.	Routes 11 and 12 new downtown service Until Queen Street reopens: Routes 11 and 12 downtown service When Queen Street reopens:
12	Select trips extended to Bank	Some weekday trips will be extended from Confederation Square to Bank Street via Elgin, Queen, O’Connor and Albert Once Queen Street reopens to buses, will remain on Queen.
32	Trips to Sunview will serve Montreal Station at all times	Buses will exit at the Montreal Road Highway 174 ramp every trip. Service to Montreal Station east (#2461) will no longer be on-request only.
34	Will serve Montreal Station at all times	Buses will exit at the Montreal Road Highway 174 ramp in both directions
38	Will serve Montreal Station at all times	Buses will exit at the Montreal Road Highway 174 ramp in both directions
80	Weekday trip added	An additional trip to Auriga/Deakin will depart from Tunney’s Pasture at 6:51 pm on weekdays. Route 80 Barrhaven Centre schedule
89	Weekday trips added	Two early evening trips to Colonnade added on weekdays Route 89 Colonnade schedule
91	Trips to Orléans/Trim will serve Montreal Station at all times	Buses will exit at the Montreal Road Highway 174 ramp every trip. Service to Montreal Station east (#2461) will no longer be on-request only.
95	Trips to Orléans/Trim will serve Montreal Station at all times	Buses will exit at the Montreal Road Highway 174 ramp every trip. Service to Montreal Station east (#2461) will no longer be on-request only.
103	Trips to Place d’Orléans will serve Montreal Station at all times	Buses will exit at the Montreal Road Highway 174 ramp every trip. Service to Montreal Station east (#2461) will no longer be on-request only.
104	Trips to Place d’Orléans will serve Montreal Station at all times	Buses will exit at the Montreal Road Highway 174 ramp every trip. Service to Montreal Station east (#2461) will no longer be on-request only.
151	Renumbered as Route 153	Trips from Tunney’s Pasture to Carlingwood are modified to use McRae, Richmond/Wellington and Holland and become trips on Route 153: Three of these trips extended to/from Bayshore on weekdays
153	Extension (east and west) of select trips	Seven days a week, select trips extended to run between Tunney’s Pasture and Bayshore. These trips will provide a limited transfer-free service to Westboro, and along Wellington and Richmond, alongside to the western part of Route 11. All other trips continue to run between Carlingwood and Lincoln Fields.
175	New later trip to Riverstone and Fencerow	A new weeknight trip to Riverstone and Fencerow will depart from Golflinks and Longfields at 10:54 pm.
199	Trips to Place d’Orléans will serve Montreal Station at all times	Buses will exit at the Montreal Road Highway 174 ramp every trip. Service to Montreal Station east (#2461) will no longer be on-request only.

[Loud-Invero]

Not liking the fact that they're changing Orleans routes to always serve Montreal eastbound on all trips, are people too stupid to press the "request stop" button at that stop?

[CanadaGoose]

3 hours ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

Not liking the fact that they're changing Orleans routes to always serve Montreal eastbound on all trips, are people too stupid to press the "request stop" button at that stop?

There is probably better reasoning.

- Possible unsafe merges from bus lane into traffic during rush hour.

- readjustment to traffic signals so buses have priority and can avoid the bottleneck.

- makes sense for buses to remain in the same lane.

- button is broken and there is no budget for fixing it.

[Loud-Invero]

5 minutes ago, CanadaGoose said:

There is probably better reasoning.

- Possible unsafe merges from bus lane into traffic during rush hour.

- readjustment to traffic signals so buses have priority and can avoid the bottleneck.

- makes sense for buses to remain in the same lane.

- button is broken and there is no budget for fixing it.

The last one seems like the only valid possibility since buses have been fine since the begginging of buses driving in Ottawa (in addition to the fact that this change does not apply to routes in the 220's and 230's)

[CanadaGoose]

23 minutes ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

The last one seems like the only valid possibility since buses have been fine since the begginging of buses driving in Ottawa (in addition to the fact that this change does not apply to routes in the 220's and 230's)

yes, because there is no such thing as emails to your councillor complaining about buses or management making great decisions....

(note the sarcasm)

[Loud-Invero]

DETOUR: Hurdman and Lycée Claudel Stations closed Sunday morningOctober 28, 2018Route 9, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 61, 62, 86, 87, 88, 92, 97, 98, 104

We are running a bus operations test at Hurdman Station from 4am to 10 am on Sunday to prepare for O-Train Line 1 service. Routes 9, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 61, 62, 86, 87, 88, 92, 97, 98 and 104 will bypass Hurdman and Lycée Claudel. Buses will use temporary stops at Industrial and Riverside instead. This test will take place early on a Sunday to affect as few customers as possible.

Bus Stop(s) Affected:

The following stops will be out of service from 4 am to 10 am:

Stop #	Location
3023	Hurdman Station
3030	Lycée Claudel Station
1869	Terminal just south of the Transitway
1801	Terminal (northside), just west of Sandford Fleming

[CanadaGoose]

42 minutes ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

DETOUR: Hurdman and Lycée Claudel Stations closed Sunday morningOctober 28, 2018Route 9, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 61, 62, 86, 87, 88, 92, 97, 98, 104

We are running a bus operations test at Hurdman Station from 4am to 10 am on Sunday to prepare for O-Train Line 1 service. Routes 9, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 61, 62, 86, 87, 88, 92, 97, 98 and 104 will bypass Hurdman and Lycée Claudel. Buses will use temporary stops at Industrial and Riverside instead. This test will take place early on a Sunday to affect as few customers as possible.

Bus Stop(s) Affected:

The following stops will be out of service from 4 am to 10 am:

Stop #	Location
3023	Hurdman Station
3030	Lycée Claudel Station
1869	Terminal just south of the Transitway
1801	Terminal (northside), just west of Sandford Fleming

Looks like they are being proactive.

[Flalex72]

3 hours ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

DETOUR: Hurdman and Lycée Claudel Stations closed Sunday morningOctober 28, 2018Route 9, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 61, 62, 86, 87, 88, 92, 97, 98, 104

We are running a bus operations test at Hurdman Station from 4am to 10 am on Sunday to prepare for O-Train Line 1 service. Routes 9, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 61, 62, 86, 87, 88, 92, 97, 98 and 104 will bypass Hurdman and Lycée Claudel. Buses will use temporary stops at Industrial and Riverside instead. This test will take place early on a Sunday to affect as few customers as possible.

Bus Stop(s) Affected:

The following stops will be out of service from 4 am to 10 am:

Stop #	Location
3023	Hurdman Station
3030	Lycée Claudel Station
1869	Terminal just south of the Transitway
1801	Terminal (northside), just west of Sandford Fleming

I'm trying to figure out what the detour is here - the only access to the Transitway between Smyth and Lycee Claudel is via the Hospital link, and the ramps to that are only accessible from the east. It doesn't seem like they're using Alta Vista from Industrial based on the stops that are removed, perhaps they are taking Riverside to Smyth, and then back up Alta Vista to the Hospital Link?

[Charlie]

13 minutes ago, Flalex72 said:

I'm trying to figure out what the detour is here - the only access to the Transitway between Smyth and Lycee Claudel is via the Hospital link, and the ramps to that are only accessible from the east. It doesn't seem like they're using Alta Vista from Industrial based on the stops that are removed, perhaps they are taking Riverside to Smyth, and then back up Alta Vista to the Hospital Link?

If you go to the webpage they have a table where you can see individual detour maps for all the bus routes. All busses using the SE Transitway will be using Alta Vista to the Hospital Link.

http://www.octranspo.com/images/files/maps/detours/2018/Hurdman_stress_test/87_97_98_104_west_east.pdf

[Loud-Invero]

Canada Post labour disruption could delay Presto card delivery

Rotating strikes have begun at Canada Post. This could delay delivery of Presto cards ordered online or by phone. Go to prestocard.ca for more details. To avoid delays, buy your card at a Customer Service Centre (Lincoln Fields, Place d’Orléans, Rideau Centre and St-Laurent), at a participating retailer or from a ticket machine. Use our sales locations map to find a Presto vendor near you. »

 

 

Rack & Roll wraps up for the year

We have started removing the bike racks from the buses. We can no longer guarantee that any routes will have bike racks. Rack & Roll wraps up for the year: Read More »

[Waiting for 30 Minutes]

Please don't turn this into a copy-and-paste thread.

[OCCheetos]

There's already the service disruptions thread which is where this kind of stuff is typically posted.

 

[Loud-Invero]

4 hours ago, Waiting for 30 Minutes said:

Please don't turn this into a copy-and-paste thread.

 

3 hours ago, OCCheetos said:

There's already the service disruptions thread which is where this kind of stuff is typically posted.

 

Quoting me would have been nice of you two. I'll be sure to better choose what goes on here, however the rack and roll news DOES belong here.

[CanadaGoose]

27 minutes ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

 

Quoting me would have been nice of you two. I'll be sure to better choose what goes on here, however the rack and roll news DOES belong here.

The novabuses have bike racks, will they stay all year?

 

[STO_1601]

1 minute ago, CanadaGoose said:

The novabuses have bike racks, will they stay all year?

 

That's STO not OC Transpo!

[CanadaGoose]

33 minutes ago, STO_1601 said:

That's STO not OC Transpo!

We are getting nova buses in January.

[OCCheetos]

Just now, CanadaGoose said:

We are getting nova buses in January.

They'll probably follow the existing Rack and Roll schedule as all buses have in the past so far.

[Loud-Invero]

34 minutes ago, CanadaGoose said:

We are getting nova buses in January.

The image depicting the Nova bus said Q1, meaning between January - March (which you should know), unless there was a memo stating January instead of any other possible month in Q1. Either way, can't wait!

[OCCheetos]

1 hour ago, OCTranspoMaster said:

The image depicting the Nova bus said Q1, meaning between January - March (which you should know), unless there was a memo stating January instead of any other possible month in Q1. Either way, can't wait!

Another user previously mentioned that the plan was to have 7, although that probably changed since the sheet we've seen says 9, delivered in January (so they'd likely enter service between January and March i.e. Q1).

 

[STO_1601]

Hausse moyenne de 1 % des tarifs de la STO en 2019 (Average 1% increase in STO rates in 2019)

article in french only.

https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/societe/hausse-moyenne-de-1--des-tarifs-de-la-sto-85e5b131cdb61f34055cc418f9b2ec15

[HB_1024]

16 hours ago, OCCheetos said:

the plan was to have 7, although that probably changed since the sheet we've seen says 9

Keeping in mind the original order was for 80 buses, and that was later increased to 82, I guess that confirms the extra two will be part of the first batch.