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53 minutes ago, smallspy said:

I'm well aware - it's called the spares ratio, and in public transit, it usually is about 15% to 18% of the total size of the fleet.

 

If an agency - such as Mississauga Transit - is having trouble getting enough vehicles onto the road, then their ratio is going to be at the lower end of that range.


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MIWay (or Mississauga Transit if that's your preference) has consistently operated at a higher spare ratio than what is considered the norm in the industry. This was true even pre-COVID; in September 2019 there was a peak requirement of 384/500 buses resulting in a 24% spare ratio. The current requirement is approximately 315/475 buses (some buses retired without direct replacement during COVID) resulting in a 34% spare ratio.

Staffing availability and parts supply issues are probably having a impact in addition to extended downtime due to structural work on order buses (40% of the fleet is 12+ years old); also relevant during the heat wave a few weeks back was a rash of buses out of service for repairs to the A/C systems.

 

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1 hour ago, Bus_Medic said:

…really? Tell us more.

For example, YRT has more than enough fleet to use even if a portion of fleet goes for mechanical work/refurbishment. DRT also...

Not too sure about MiWay but I presume from a organizational standpoint, not having extra buses usually results in disgruntled employees who can do their work and runs often being missed or not fulfilled on time.

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16 hours ago, newflyerinvero said:

So the 61 and 66 going all Blue bus operation, is it specific to artic, or any bus that's blue?

Is it that the local artic allocation is tight or not enough?

I'm also curious about the 110, one route that used to be very heavy ridership-wise and lots of artics used. It'll be interesting to see if the 110 gets to that level again abd the artic allocation is already accounted for on the 1/1C, 5, 35, 39(?), 42, 61, 66, 101/101A, 103 and 109.

Lastly, I see that with MiWay not bringing back the 185, guessing Brampton isn't doing the sane?

Could there be a chance to see one agency providing that route while the other stands ididly by?

The 11, and the 66, will be getting blue buses not the 61. It’s it’s probably both 60fts and 40ft express on the 66, as for the 11, I’m guessing 40ft Express unless it’s gotten a bigger ridership. I also have the same question with how they will handle 60fts on all the busy routes. At the same time MiWay has 16 MiLocal XDE60s on order to help with overcrowd so that should help. As for the 110, when UTM opened up on September it didn’t seem like ridership increased like how it was pre-covid, so it’s probably going to stick with 40fts only until they see a major increase in ridership.

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54 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said:

For example, YRT has more than enough fleet to use even if a portion of fleet goes for mechanical work/refurbishment. DRT also...

Not too sure about MiWay but I presume from a organizational standpoint, not having extra buses usually results in disgruntled employees who can do their work and runs often being missed or not fulfilled on time.

Golly, we had no idea. You’re so helpful!👍

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14 hours ago, Gamer Studios said:


Not too sure about MiWay but I presume from a organizational standpoint, not having extra buses usually results in disgruntled employees who can do their work and runs often being missed or not fulfilled on time.

Why would employees be disgruntled for not having an available bus to drive? They would still get paid for showing up to work. I surely wouldn't complain.

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6 hours ago, Gamer Studios said:

I mean when I said "disgruntled" I mean boredom at the depot....

like they don't feel useful.

Stop with this nonsense. Vast majority of employees would not complain about having a break from driving since they are being paid regardless of what they are doing. Not feeling useful doesn't factor into it at all. Less driving also means less chances of an accident or incident happening. I'd rather deal with boredom than with writing reports and paperwork. 

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52 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said:

Stop with this nonsense. Vast majority of employees would not complain about having a break from driving since they are being paid regardless of what they are doing. Not feeling useful doesn't factor into it at all. Less driving also means less chances of an accident or incident happening. I'd rather deal with boredom than with writing reports and paperwork. 

Instagram on the clock…what’s not to like?

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19 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said:

But companies like MiWay don't pay people to primarily sit around...

The responsibility lies with the ones delegating orders. Not those following them.

Operators are paid to operate. If there’s no equipment, they’re paid to sit -and that’s none of their concern or worry. 
 

Someone else’s balls will be in a vise.

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7 hours ago, drum118 said:

This request for hydrogen has been on going since 2004

Transit advocates say green hydrogen has been slow-moving for city bus projects

As it should be.

At best, producing hydrogen by electrolysis is a really, really inefficient use of energy. Energy out Vs. Energy in just to make the stuff is about 80%, without factoring in energy used to transport it to point of use. The fuel cell itself is optimistically 60% efficient.

 

At worst, the “hydrogen economy” is a bullshit astroturfing attempt by the fossil fuel industry to stay relevant. 
 

There are already better mousetraps on the market.

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I plan on heading out to Mississauga over the next few days to ride on the oldest buses before they retire.

Since I have not lived in Etobicoke for a long time, I would appreciate some updates on where the best places and routes to find them would be. Is it easy to find them on routes operating out of Kipling Station? Which terminals should I proceed to after that for the best chances of finding older buses?

 

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The 03 and 05's can pretty much show up on any 40ft run, if you go to kipling or city centre terminals, you are almost guaranteed to see some, espescially on a weekday, but there should still be some out on weekends as well.

As for the 06's, the best place to find those is at westwood terminal, as most of them are at malton garage and most of the malton routes stop there. Note that the 06's almost never come out on weekends.

I would reccomend checking transit55.ca, its a tracker site that will tell you what routes they are on, and how long they will be out.

If you see any on routes 11 or 35, i reccomend riding those ones,  as those routes have longer highway sections which are fun to ride on the older buses. I also reccomend going after 0341, imo that one is in the best condition of all remaining D40LF's.

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To add, you can also look up certain units of the 03/05 fleet and see which routes they've been doing. Some drivers prefer the older buses and if they don't have a pre-allocated unit for their run, they may regularly choose 03/05s from the pool of available buses, which would be reflected on t55.

But like he said above, a lot of them can be serving one route all day and you can coordinate your trips by checking where the bus will be later in the day by checking the individual blocks on t55. 

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They also will be on splits as well^ May do around 3-5 routes per day depending on the crew. Like what H4 said, they can be seen anywhere but try getting them on the 35, it’s a really smooth right and end up going on the highway.

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18 minutes ago, PrimeTio said:

That’s been occurring more often because both garages are low on buses. I know CP/CX have major shortages and Malton might have it as well. You usually see both local and express buses on the 107. (108 included as well)

The 108 usually gets MiLocal buses because, being a rush hour route, a lot of its runs continue to local routes.

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2 hours ago, PrimeTio said:

That’s been occurring more often because both garages are low on buses. I know CP/CX have major shortages and Malton might have it as well. You usually see both local and express buses on the 107. (108 included as well)

Would the upcoming new buses help solve the shortage problem?

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On 8/26/2022 at 11:49 PM, GZ6113PHEV5 said:

 

Would the upcoming new buses help solve the shortage problem?

No

Buses that were to be retired stating with the 2003 to 2007 are still in service today or in the dead end line.  15 years is the life cycle after being raise from 12 that was drop from 18+ some years ago.

This means there are 15-19 year old buses on the road today with high maintenance cost.

The articulated buses have being having issues since day one meeting the 12 year life cycle, let alone 10 years with NFI. Lot more years to see if the NovaBus make the 12 year cycle.

The city been throwing transit under the bus for decades with great talk, but no action and with buses being order years late is another example. The idea of going green with hybrid buses come with a higher cost that council fail to understand doing so.

Rule of thumb from the top is what every in the yard that is ready for service goes into service regardless if it the wrong bus for the route or colour. Been riding a lot of express buses on local routes over a year and more so in the last 6 months.

Lot of riders only go by the colour of the bus that they either get on the wrong bus or wait till the right colour comes along, not the route number.

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On 8/26/2022 at 5:52 PM, blue.bird.fan said:

I plan on heading out to Mississauga over the next few days to ride on the oldest buses before they retire.

Since I have not lived in Etobicoke for a long time, I would appreciate some updates on where the best places and routes to find them would be. Is it easy to find them on routes operating out of Kipling Station? Which terminals should I proceed to after that for the best chances of finding older buses?

 

I'm not sure about the kipling area, but here at Meadowvale we get a few 03 and 05 D40LF. I've found them on route 48, and its either them, the 17XX Nova busses, or on occasion some of the newer 11XX XD40s, but its mainly the Novas or the D40LFs. The terminal itself also has a wide variety, and if you spend a day there, you'll probably catch one of everything that Miway has, or at the very least get close to it.

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