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[Gil]

Looks like a return somewhat of the old 54 HERSHEY EXPRESS with the introduction of the Paramount Vaccine Clinic Shuttle.

Paramount Vaccine Clinic Shuttle

Starting Monday, April 19, 2021, a round-trip shuttle service between the City Centre Transit Terminal and the Paramount Fine Foods Centre Sportsplex Vaccination Clinic will be available to help residents get to and from COVID-19 vaccination appointments.

The shuttle is a three-week pilot project that runs from April 19 to May 9 and is part of the Region of Peel’s Transportation Assistance Program. The shuttle service hours align with the clinic’s hours of operation.

A MiWay fare is required to ride the Paramount Vaccine Clinic Shuttle. Customers can use PRESTO or a paper transfer to board and transfer between different buses on MiWay, or to transfer to public transit in neighbouring cities.

With PRESTO, your transfer is active for two hours from when you first tap your card on the bus (and you don’t need a paper transfer).

Bus Schedule

The shuttle runs Monday to Sunday, about every 40 minutes between 10 a.m. and 6 p.m.

Click here for the bus schedule, effective April 19, 2021.

Note: Clinic and shuttle hours of operation are subject to change.

Initial news reports had stated that the service was free.  They've clarified that it's a paid route on MiWay's website.  Given that the schedule allows for 15 minutes travel time I'm not sure if it will be making any stops along the way at transfer points (Rathburn & Central Pkwy, Central Pkwy Stn., Eglinton, Bristol, Matheson or Kennedy & Coopers).  Google says the trip along that routing takes 9 minutes and it's not advertised as an express route.  This follows the TTC's 200 MITCHELL FIELDS ARENA SHUTTLE which Transit Toronto recently reported on.

UPDATE: According to CP24 the shuttle will run express between CCTT and the Paramount Centre Vaccination Clinic.

Despite surrounding vaccination clinics in Toronto and York shutting down early due to lack of vaccine supplies, Peel has said it currently has enough supply and is not concerned about having to prematurely shut the clinics down.  I wonder if the route has a (likely internal) route number or if it will show up on trip planning websites seeing as the next service change is a week away.

In other news, I thought I'd share a hastily drawn map (the internal airport roads were missing for one) of the overnight services in Mississauga I had posted in the DRT thread.  I opted for blue as the orange didn't really contrast well with the TREB boundaries on the base map.  The next service change had mentioned later service on the 42 DERRY, but there's still a 4-hour gap in service overnight, so it's not quite an addition to the network.

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[Gil]

For posterity's sake since it hasn't already been posted the April 26, 2021 Service Changes (we've already seen the changes to the 4 SHERWAY GARDENS, 6 CREDIT WOODLANDS, 38 CREDITVIEW and 91 HILLCREST which were announced earlier):

April 26, 2021 service changes

MiWay will implement these changes on April 26:

1. Schedules will change on various routes to respond to ridership demand and ensure service reliability (see list below).
2. Route 91 – Hillcrest-Cooksville GO will be cancelled. Route 4 Sherway Gardens and Route 6 Credit Woodlands are alternate routes.
3. Route 4 Sherway Gardens will have new routing and schedules. It will be extended to service the Cooksville GO Station.
4. Route 38/38A – Creditview will have new routing and schedules. It will be extended to service the Cooksville GO Station.
5. Route 6 Credit Woodlands will be revised to service Webb Drive and Duke of York Blvd (previously serviced by cancelled route 91).
6. Route 42 Derry will provide new weekday and weekend trips to respond to increasing demand.
7. Route 51 Tomken will provide new weekday trips to respond to increasing demand.
8. Route 66 McLaughlin will provide new weekday and weekend trips to respond to increasing demand.
9. On Victoria Day (Monday, May 24, 2021) buses will operate on a holiday schedule and some routes will not operate due to low customer demand (see list below).

1. Schedules will change on various routes to respond to ridership demand and ensure service reliability.

Please check for updated schedules, starting April 26, 2021, on these routes:

• Route 2 Hurontario
• Route 4 Sherway Gardens
• Route 5 Dixie
• Route 6 Credit Woodlands
• Route 7 Airport
• Route 16/16A Malton
• Route 17 Hurontario
• Route 22 Finch
• Route 26 Burhamthrope (East)
• Route 35 Eglinton-Ninth Line (West)
• Route 38 Creditview
• Route 38A Creditview – Argentia
• Route 42 Derry
• Route 43 Matheson-Argentia
• Route 46 Tenth Line – Osprey
• Route 49 McDowell
• Route 51 Tomken
• Route 53 Kennedy
• Route 61 Mavis (North)
• Route 66 McLaughlin
• Route 68 Terry Fox
• Route 71 Sheridan-Subway
• Route 87 Meadowvale-Skymark
• Route 90 Terragar-Copenhagen
• Route 101 Dundas Express
• Route 103 Hurontario Express (North)

2. Route 91 – Hillcrest-Cooksville GO will be cancelled.

This route will be cancelled due to low customer demand.

Alternate routes:

• Route 4 – Sherway Gardens: Offering daily service on Hillcrest Avenue. Customers can travel to Cooksville GO and transfer to Route 2 or Route 28 to connect to the City Centre Transit Terminal.

• Route 6 – Credit Woodlands: Offering service on Webb Drive east of Confederation Parkway and connections to the City Centre Transit Terminal.

Click here to view alternate route options: Route 4 and Route 6.

3. Route 4 Sherway Gardens will have new routing and schedules.

• This route will be extended to service the Cooksville GO Station via Hillcrest Avenue (previously serviced by cancelled Route 91) and improve transit network connections.
• It will no longer service Glengarry Road or Cedarglen Gate or part of the Huron Park area west of Mavis Road.
• There will be a trip in the morning and in the midday to service Huron Park Community Centre and St. Martin Secondary School.
• Customers who need to transfer to Route 38 – Creditview can do so at Cooksville GO Station or Mavis Road and Dundas Street.
• Schedules will be revised.

Click here to view the revised routing.

4. Route 38/38A – Creditview will have new routing and schedules.

• This route will be extended to service the Cooksville GO Station via Hillcrest Avenue (previously serviced by cancelled Route 91) and improve transit network connections.
• It will no longer service Glengarry Road and Cedarglen Gate.
• Customers who need to transfer to Route 4 – Sherway Gardens can do so at Cooksville GO Station or Mavis Road and Dundas Street.
• Schedules will be revised.

Click here to view the revised routing for Route 38.
Click here to view the revised routing for Route 38A.

5. Route 6 Credit Woodlands will have revised routing

Route 6 Credit Woodlands will be revised to service Webb Drive and Duke of York Blvd, between Burnhamthorpe Road and Confederation Parkway (previously serviced by cancelled route 91).

Click here to view the revised routing.

6. Route 42 Derry will provide new weekday and weekend trips.

New weekday, late-night trips, and weekend trips will be added to respond to increasing demand – check for updated schedules.

7. Route 51 Tomken will provide new weekday trips.

New weekday trips will be added to respond to increasing demand – check for updated schedules.

8. Route 66 McLaughlin will provide new weekday and weekend trips.

New weekday and weekend trips will be added to respond to increasing demand – check for updated schedules.

9. On Victoria Day (Monday, May 24, 2021) buses will operate on a holiday schedule.

The following routes will not operate due to low customer demand:

• Route 28 – Confederation
• Route 35 – Eglinton-Ninth Line
• Route 46 – Tenth Line-Osprey
• Route 48 – Erin Mills
• Route 68 – Terry Fox

...

Next service change – Monday, June 28, 2021.

New System Maps are also available: Weekday, Express, Saturday, Sunday/Holiday

The 91 HILLCREST being cancelled "due to low demand" but aside from the segment of Mavis between Central Pkwy. and Hillcrest is being entirely replaced by other routes.  What part of it was low demand then? 

The 43 MATHESON-ARGENTIA/87 MEADOWVALE-SKYMARK are slated for schedule changes, but it only looks like a tweak in scheduling and not some restoration of full pre-COVID service.  Also, this pair of routes runs between Meadowvale Town Centre and Skymark Hub/Renforth Station as does the 39 BRITANNIA.  The former are designated as north-south routes while the latter is an east-west route.  The 43 MATHESON-ARGENTIA does go further north along Argentia before doubling back to get to Meadowvale TC while the 39 BRITANNIA goes marginally further south actually entering Renforth Station.  Don't get me started on the inconsistencies of all of the hyphenated routes!

They did add a link to the MiWay Infrastructure Growth Plan in the Service Updates dropdown menu with a link to the actual report at the end.  I still think they made a mistake with their symbology for categorizing terminals.  Following the logical progression of the symbols (Through Terminal, Turnaround Terminal, Connect Terminal and Connect and Turnaround Terminal) the symbols for the last two should be switched. 

There are some interesting scenarios also presented in the report on improving terminal facilities.  This looks to probably form the basis for the next MiWay5 plan which is still in the works.

Also in the plan regarding terminals, it alludes to the hospitals (Credit Valley in particular) not wanting to allow other routes in or expand the existing facilities.  This seems rather short-sighted.  Given the changing demographics of Mississauga, it seems strange to want to shut out those who do not have access to a car.  Granted, both Trillium and Credit Valley have their transit terminals right next to the ambulance entrances which is probably why they don't want additional bus traffic.  But could the hospitals not work with MiWay to find a better location on the respective sites?  Trillium is easier to walk in to off the street from Queensway, Credit Valley unfortunately due to the way it's positioned is more of a hike to the main entrance from either Eglinton or Erin Mills whether you stay outside or cut through the hospital.

Seeing as the Paramount Centre Vaccine Shuttle is a temporary service it doesn't show up on transit feeds, so you're left to pull up the schedule on your phone at either end.  Both MiWay and the Region of Peel shared a tweet about the service.  No route number, which looks strange.  With the removal of the 53 KENNEDY from Paramount in order to make it to Cooksville GO in time, once life returns to normal should there be additional service?  Right now, the only other way to get there (off peak) is to take the 39 BRITANNIA.  It was a terminal point early on in the MiWay5 planning stages that was subsequently dropped.

I checked Transit55 around the date and time the tweet originally went out.  Bus 1135 didn't show up as being in service doing the shuttle runs during its prescribed times.

[Gil]

MiWay hasn't posted a detour notice about Erin Mills being closed between Britannia and Thomas including both intersections due to a collision involving downed hydro lines (as reported elsewhere) affecting the 9 RATHBURN-THOMAS, 10 BRISTOL-BRITANNIA, 39 BRITANNIA, 48 ERIN MILLS, 49A McDOWELL and 87 MEADOWVALE-SKYMARK at the height of rush hour. 

 

GO Transit does have a notice for its 21D MILTON bus service through the area:

Bus detour - Route 21D

Westbound route 21D GO Buses are detouring around the area of a police investigation and resulting road closure. The stops on Erin Mills Pkwy at Thomas St., Vista Blvd., Britannia Rd. and Battleford Rd, will not be served. Please use Streetsville GO. 

According to Transit55 the Thomas-based routes (in brown) are detouring via Vista and Wickham to Bell Harbour and then back to Thomas.  The Britannia-based routes are detouring via Millcreek and Erin Mills with the 10 BRISTOL-BRITANNIA (in orange) seeing the shortest detour.  The 39 BRITANNIA (in blue) uses Battleford and Glen Erin to return to route.  The 87 MEADOWVALE-SKYMARK (in red) strangely continues to Aquitaine and then to Meadowvale Town Centre completely bypassing all stops west of Millcreek.  The 48 ERIN MILLS (in green) uses a combination of Glen Erin between Erin Mills Town Centre to Battleford and Erin Mills Town Centre to Windwood before returning to route.  It's a shame there isn't an extension of Windwood between Erin Mills and Hogan so that traffic can bypass the intersection if needed.

Depending on whether or not the drive makes stops along the detour routing, the westbound passengers on the 39 BRITANNIA headed to Meadowvale Town Centre could get off at Glen Erin and shorten their trip.  The rain is holding off this afternoon.  

I'll presume the GO Buses are either using travelling through Streetsville or somehow finding their way directly to Winston Churchill after leaving Streetsville GO station.

[drum118]

This is on the Planning Committee list for May 10 Regarding Dundas BRT stating on PAGE 45

Starting shortly, all southbound lanes from Robert Speck will see 2 lanes close for construction and all bus stop move out from the curb like it is to the north.

Construction starts in June for the elevated LRT over the 403 as well on the Hurontario Overpass. No idea why the overpass is part of the LRT work other than the city getting a free ride or close to it. Traffic lanes will be reduce to 4 lanes and will have some impact on transit service for both cites.

ML has the Port Credit parking lot up for sale and to build a P3 project on it.

Construction has started on the Port Credit LRT Station with the building of the tunnel that will be push under the rail corridor over a few weeks at the end of the year.

Is there an app out there that gives real time for stops for miWay as the 3 I have are off the mark with one still using Islington?? Went to use a 26W a few days ago and saw a bus before Robert Speck that turn out to be a 76. App said I miss one by 2 minutes and the next was in 18 minutes only to show up 5 minutes later. I have yet to see a bus show up as schedule or ahead of schedule.

[buschic]

@drum118

unfortunately, only Transit55 is showing actual service issues, Transit app, has & is the ONLY app, that actually shows the screwed up times.

I lived on the 26/76 for the entire time I lived in Mississauga ( moved back to Toronto, 1 month ago- glad I did)

The MiWay drivers I got to know on those 2 routes, absolutely HATE the routing to Islington-Kipling , most are pissed that they don’t just do the 76 routing from Burnhamthorpe & Westmall, the only reason they don’t, & still service Islington is the whiny/lazy ppl that still DEMAND service to Islington, it’s slated to be reviewed after 6 months of Kipling terminal being opened, (ridership is ridiculously low along that stretch even now.)

(I still work in Mississauga, so still will be using MiWay)

@Gil

I’ll miss running into you, I met a lot of fellow transit ‘geeks’ while living in Mississauga, several actually are in Brampton also!

Thank You for your comments, they mean a lot, I’ll be on here from time to time, I don’t have a lot of ‘spare’ time anymore (working full time, mainly 12hr shifts)

I still have friends who are MiWay & Brampton Transit ops, as I still work in Mississauga, after covid, I’ll be a daily rider again..

#MiwayAccessibility 

The terminal at Westwood won’t change anytime soon, as it’s considered a ‘regional hub’ as 3 systems have buses that go there, MiWay/Brampton Transit had asked the regional accessibility committee for input on a couple of proposed redesign ideas (very early sketches), I was a volunteer on this project, as they know I’m a full time conventional system user (unlike most of the Mississauga AAC members).

I no longer am on the committee, but still have (friends) within city hall, so will keep an eyeball on this.

@drum118

just a heads up, the terminal redesign at DVM, is on hold indefinitely, due to recent massive condo development proposals.

IMO it’s a horrible terminal (major accessibility issues) but as it’s on private property, that’s part of the proposal, it may not exist in 3-5yrs.

I’m keeping an eyeball on it too, as that mall is kinda special to me.

 

[Tramguy]

Sunday May 2nd, 1117, southbound on Kennedy, below Rathburn, out of service.

[G.A]

3 hours ago, Tramguy said:

Sunday May 2nd, 1117, southbound on Kennedy, below Rathburn, out of service.

Okay? Buses deadhead all the time out of service.

[Gil]

3 hours ago, Tramguy said:

Sunday May 2nd, 1117, southbound on Kennedy, below Rathburn, out of service.

 

34 minutes ago, G.A said:

Okay? Buses deadhead all the time out of service.

Plus there is already a thread (which hasn't really been used in nearly 2 years, hence it's been buried by others) in the Sightings section:

 

[Articulated]

5 minutes ago, Gil said:

Plus there is already a thread (which hasn't really been used in nearly 2 years, hence it's been buried by others) in the Sightings section:

 

The Mississauga Transit Sightings thread has been buried because it has been superceded by the Today's Sightings and Today's Special Sightings threads, both of which cover all GTA transit agencies. Those would be the preferred location for sightings.

[G.A]

3 hours ago, Gil said:

 

Plus there is already a thread (which hasn't really been used in nearly 2 years, hence it's been buried by others) in the Sightings section:

 

Only reason why it hasn't been used is there's nothing good on the road anymore. Only Nova and Flyer with the few oddballs out there.

[Gil]

This seemed to come out of the blue.  Then again, they did say they were monitoring ridership levels to make sure there was enough capacity on the Derry corridor.

More Service on Derry Road

Starting Monday, May 10, 2021, MiWay will increase passenger carrying capacity on the busiest sections of Derry Road by providing more service in response to ridership demand.

New Route 42A – Derry

• Route 42A – Derry will travel westbound between Westwood Square Transit Terminal and Mavis Road on weekdays between 5 a.m. and 7 p.m. to provide more service on Derry Road.
• Route 42 – Derry will continue to travel between Westwood Square Transit Terminal and Meadowvale Town Centre.
• Customers at stops between Westwood Square Transit Terminal and Mavis Road will be provided with five-minute service frequencies using Route 42 – Derry and the new Route 42A – Derry.
• Customers at stops between Mavis Road and Meadowvale Town Centre Transit Terminal will be provided with ten-minute service frequencies using Route 42 – Derry.
• No changes to weekend schedules on Route 42 – Derry.

View the Route 42A – Derry route map (effective May 10).
View the Westwood Square Transit Terminal map (effective May 10).

Any bets on whether this survives once all the COVID restrictions are lifted or is the 104 DERRY EXPRESS a better use of resources?  Both branches will leave from the same platform at Westwood.  What about possible overnight service?  Seeing as Meadowvale Town Centre currently doesn't have any routes serving it overnight, this 42A branch could be a reasonable alternative as it would link Hurontario and Westwood.  It's just the residents along Envoy that might be concerned.  Perhaps routing it to the Hurontario/407 Loop?  It would miss the area between Hurontario and McLaughlin unless they used Maritz as an on-street loop which might seem like a better option.

Also, it's only stated as westbound (the map does too).  Does it return eastbound as a 42 DERRY or deadhead?  A short turn service or perhaps an extension of the 15 DREW might be more useful throughout the day.  It's been a while since MiWay had a unidirectional route (that runs throughout the day and doesn't switch directions at rush hour).

[drum118]

13 hours ago, Gil said:

This seemed to come out of the blue.  Then again, they did say they were monitoring ridership levels to make sure there was enough capacity on the Derry corridor.

More Service on Derry Road

Starting Monday, May 10, 2021, MiWay will increase passenger carrying capacity on the busiest sections of Derry Road by providing more service in response to ridership demand.

New Route 42A – Derry

• Route 42A – Derry will travel westbound between Westwood Square Transit Terminal and Mavis Road on weekdays between 5 a.m. and 7 p.m. to provide more service on Derry Road.
• Route 42 – Derry will continue to travel between Westwood Square Transit Terminal and Meadowvale Town Centre.
• Customers at stops between Westwood Square Transit Terminal and Mavis Road will be provided with five-minute service frequencies using Route 42 – Derry and the new Route 42A – Derry.
• Customers at stops between Mavis Road and Meadowvale Town Centre Transit Terminal will be provided with ten-minute service frequencies using Route 42 – Derry.
• No changes to weekend schedules on Route 42 – Derry.

View the Route 42A – Derry route map (effective May 10).
View the Westwood Square Transit Terminal map (effective May 10).

Any bets on whether this survives once all the COVID restrictions are lifted or is the 104 DERRY EXPRESS a better use of resources?  Both branches will leave from the same platform at Westwood.  What about possible overnight service?  Seeing as Meadowvale Town Centre currently doesn't have any routes serving it overnight, this 42A branch could be a reasonable alternative as it would link Hurontario and Westwood.  It's just the residents along Envoy that might be concerned.  Perhaps routing it to the Hurontario/407 Loop?  It would miss the area between Hurontario and McLaughlin unless they used Maritz as an on-street loop which might seem like a better option.

Also, it's only stated as westbound (the map does too).  Does it return eastbound as a 42 DERRY or deadhead?  A short turn service or perhaps an extension of the 15 DREW might be more useful throughout the day.  It's been a while since MiWay had a unidirectional route (that runs throughout the day and doesn't switch directions at rush hour).

I have no idea what ridership was for 42 before COIVD as been too long since I rode the route to say if the 42A is a good option. The 42A route is a good option as it service the employment area compare to 42 where ridership falls west of Hurontario/Mavis. Not sure how to loop the 42A at Mavis other than using the shopping plaza and not sure if the Plaza's will like that.

My take the map is showing the 2 routes that have service in both direction and a waste of resources doing the 15 route.

With the 42A it kills the 142 that I saw as a waste of resources with low ridership from the day it was announce and before going into service.

As for 24 hour service, you need 3 24 hour lines feeding a 42N. Need a route for Meadowvale, Hurontario and a new route from Westwood to the airport to connect with TTC 300's lines.

[MiExpress]

3 hours ago, drum118 said:

I have no idea what ridership was for 42 before COIVD as been too long since I rode the route to say if the 42A is a good option. The 42A route is a good option as it service the employment area compare to 42 where ridership falls west of Hurontario/Mavis. Not sure how to loop the 42A at Mavis other than using the shopping plaza and not sure if the Plaza's will like that.

My take the map is showing the 2 routes that have service in both direction and a waste of resources doing the 15 route.

With the 42A it kills the 142 that I saw as a waste of resources with low ridership from the day it was announce and before going into service.

As for 24 hour service, you need 3 24 hour lines feeding a 42N. Need a route for Meadowvale, Hurontario and a new route from Westwood to the airport to connect with TTC 300's lines.

The map clearly shows the 42A using Envoy and Mavis to loop. There are no shopping plazas at Mavis, you're likely thinking of the ones at McLaughlin. 

The 42/42A combination will run every 5 minutes through the daytime (including midday) with 10 minute service west of Mavis on the 42 only. Currently route 42 service is 7-8 minutes during rush hours and 13 minutes during midday.

Regarding the debate about the 104, my personal opinion is that it's a pointless express route and I would be fine if it never came back. Due to the stop spacing and ridership patterns on the Derry corridor there are very little time savings with the 42 vs 104, and those service hours would be better used having the 42 being a more frequent route. It is amusing that one of MiWay's justifications for the 104 bring introduced was that "adding more buses to the 42 would just cause them to bunch so we need a higher heirachy of service". At that point in April 2018, the 42 ran every 10 minutes during rush hours. 3 years later and here we are with 5 minute frequency on the 42. 

Lastly about 24 hour service, I do agree that the 42 would be a useful part of a overnight network but with the current financial pressures I don't see any additional service. Hurontario (2/17) and Westwoood-Airport (7) already have 24 hour service so to meet your criteria there would only need to be an additional route in the west end, there probably should be one regardless (perhaps the 13).

 

 

[drum118]

11 hours ago, MiExpress said:

The map clearly shows the 42A using Envoy and Mavis to loop. There are no shopping plazas at Mavis, you're likely thinking of the ones at McLaughlin. 

The 42/42A combination will run every 5 minutes through the daytime (including midday) with 10 minute service west of Mavis on the 42 only. Currently route 42 service is 7-8 minutes during rush hours and 13 minutes during midday.

Regarding the debate about the 104, my personal opinion is that it's a pointless express route and I would be fine if it never came back. Due to the stop spacing and ridership patterns on the Derry corridor there are very little time savings with the 42 vs 104, and those service hours would be better used having the 42 being a more frequent route. It is amusing that one of MiWay's justifications for the 104 bring introduced was that "adding more buses to the 42 would just cause them to bunch so we need a higher heirachy of service". At that point in April 2018, the 42 ran every 10 minutes during rush hours. 3 years later and here we are with 5 minute frequency on the 42. 

Lastly about 24 hour service, I do agree that the 42 would be a useful part of a overnight network but with the current financial pressures I don't see any additional service. Hurontario (2/17) and Westwoood-Airport (7) already have 24 hour service so to meet your criteria there would only need to be an additional route in the west end, there probably should be one regardless (perhaps the 13).

 

 

Thanks for the loop info as I didn't look closely at it.

Until COVID is in hand and ridership get back to where it was before COVID, no new 24 hour service will hit the road.

The plan I submitted to council for 24 hour service calls for east-west route on the Lake Shore with longer headway than other; Dundas; Burhamthrope from end to end only, not the South Common route; Eglington end to end; Britannia; Derry. Dundas would use Aukland/Bloor/Dundas/Kipling/Bloor Aukland for a loop since TTC 300 bus use Aukland

North south: Dixie; Hurontario; Mavis from Dundas to Sheridan; Erin Mills/13; Winston Churchill; Ridgway/9 Line. Then there is the 7 servicing the airport;

Walking distance should be within 15 minute to/from X were possible.

As for 142, never support it like 110 south of UTM with ridership on 110 south of UTM is a failure 100%. Cost ratio is around 10% well below the 45% for the system that could be higher with changes to the system. Don't expect the 100 return to service as its a waste of resources. Once the Eglinton LRT makes its way to Renforth than the airport, what good is the 100 then? 

[Gil]

I had played around with the 42A DERRY schedule.  MiWay appears to be following the TTC's practice here of using the same branch identifier on all branches with a common terminus.  Hence you will only see the 42A designation westbound, while it returns eastbound to Westwood as the 42.  I wonder if they'll extend this to the 1 DUNDAS and 35 EGLINTON?

As for the overnight services, it's just speculation on my part on what MiWay would/should do if it were in a position to grow the network.  Likely after all of the COVID precautions have been lifted and ridership recovers.  Then again, those likely to be using the overnight network would be considered essential workers.  Pre-pandemic, I'd imagine the proportion of casual riders overnight would be fairly small.  Hospitality and bar/restaurant employees are probably the one segment of riders that has been impacted by COVID. 

All this being said, if an overnight route differs significantly from its daytime counterpart how should it be identified?  A branch letter of the closest counterpart?  A different route number altogether?  Perhaps once the network gets a bit more developed a different number series like the TTC's 300 Blue Night routes or using the N prefix as is common in several other systems (Vancouver and Paris off the top of my head).

[drum118]

The long delay in opening the tunnel to TTC fare area at Kipling is finally open after 5 months delay. I thought it would open 2 weeks ago as it sure look ready then.

Not all accessibility scooters and wheelchairs will fit that ramp. If more than 2 people want to use that ramp, one will have to wait until the other one use it.

After 5 months of service for the elevator at the Kiss & Ride is now out of service for maintenance with no signs at the Transit Hub advising riders of this issue. Good example why 2 are a must in place of one regardless of cost. So much for accessibility and those who have a hard time climbing stairs.

Great mistake not making that whole area one ramp with railing that there now, but cost got in the way.

Don't know why transit apps don't work for Mississauga, but a real pain in the ass. Sat I took 1 from the transit hub and the app said the 101 was due in 3 minutes while the stop display said no service. Then the 1 was due in 4 minutes with the stop display saying 10 minutes. Are developers slow updating their apps or Mississauga slow giving the correct data? I happen to check online scheduling for a route last week after getting home to check the times as noted in the app and it did not match the online schedule to the point the online had cross off time for the same time frame for 2 of the 5 week day schedule.

[Shemar]

MiWay 1071 was repainted in the MiLocal Livery. Photos aren't mine but they were taken from a MiWay Facebook group

[JazzyJay729]

23 hours ago, Shemar said:

MiWay 1071 was repainted in the MiLocal Livery. Photos aren't mine but they were taken from a MiWay Facebook group

How many 2010 D60LFRs are planned to be repainted?

[bus_7246]

13 hours ago, JazzyJay729 said:

How many 2010 D60LFRs are planned to be repainted?

It looks like just 4 at the moment. If they plan of on reassigning and repainting units, then I have no idea 

[transitfan100]

Ive noticed the curbside mirror arms on the XDE60 changed from the skinny type to the standard type Lucerix part

[MiExpress]

According to a report going to Mississauga council next week, MiWay and TTC are moving forward on a project to integrate service and fares within Etobicoke.

The proposed project will see restrictions on MiWay buses within Etobicoke removed and MiWay will be allowed to pick up and discharge passengers, as well as collect fares. With changes to fare policy and PRESTO software changes, cross-boundary service integration (including to and from the subway system) will be possible.

The first phase will consist of the Dundas, Bloor and Burnhamthorpe corridors, with a pilot phase being conducted starting in Fall 2021. MiWay's route 76 will be re-routed along Burnhamthorpe east to Islington Station and then to Kipling Terminal. With this change, routes 26 and 76 will provide all service on Burnhamthorpe within Etobicoke and TTC route 50 will be eliminated.

MiWay will add 2 peak buses on route 76 to add capacity.

In the future, service on Bloor Street within Etobicoke is proposed to be assumed fully by MiWay routes 3 Bloor and a re-routing of 20 Rathburn via Mill Road, allowing for TTC route 49 to be eliminated. 

Service on Dundas in Etobicoke will also be integrated in the future with MiWay buses picking up and discharging passengers, but no removal of TTC service is proposed on this stretch.

Report: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=13040&fbclid=IwAR3bm5nMb3wM_6DwxcmxIFD0xKruKBpSDGrOuQXq5ItSUeetPuJ2V2z4cyI

[Gil]

I'm wondering if a farside stop westbound at Burnhamthorpe and Mill will be installed or the existing nearside stop moved to accommodate a rerouted 20 RATHBURN.  Those passengers along Rathburn Rd. in Mississauga trying to connect to the Burnhamthorpe corridor buses have few opportunities with only two common stops eastbound and none (currently) westbound.

Eliminating the TTC 50 BURNHAMTHORPE will eliminate a required bay in the redeveloped Islington terminal.  The attached document also mentions having shared terminal facilities once the Fare and Service Integration is implemented.  Given the current conditions I doubt much will happen at Kipling, but there may be implications at Finch if/when the subway gets extended further north.  If service were improved on the 30 REXDALE and 37 ISLINGTON/937 ISLINGTON ROCKET I suppose the 37A branch could be eliminated as well. 

I wonder how the TTC will display the integrated MiWay routes.  I presume the integration will apply system-wide and not just on certain corridors like Burnhamthorpe and Bloor.  It would allow for faster trips on the the 112 WEST MALL for example with passengers wanting to reach the northern end of the route to take a MiWay bus to Renforth Station  (which would essentially be an express service) and then transfer to the TTC.  There will obviously have to be a lot of promotion along both the Burnhamthorpe and Bloor corridors in Etobicoke that MiWay will be providing the service which will take some getting used to!  I've always thought that at the common MiWay and TTC stops where a shelter and map exist the connecting MiWay service should be shown at least going off the map.  Perhaps Metrolinx will standardize the map?  Or will we see the return of the GTA transit map?

I'm also hoping the broader Fare and Service Integration with GO and TTC results in the return of some sort of co-fare agreement.

[drum118]

I really have to laugh at this as it long over due as well finally going to happen. In all my reports to TTC Commissioners meetings and Council since 2003, I have called for miWay to take over these 2 routes since it would provide better service to TTC riders as well reduce Mississauga operation cost in Toronto, especially for 26. Without some support for route 3 by TTC, it would be a blood bath for that route. TTC would walk away with 6 buses and over $1.5 Million cost saving yearly with Mississauga taking over TTC Routes, considering they were part of 20 bus routes on TTC chopping blocks since the 90's.

 

The question for route 49 riders, will they have to spend 7 extra minute travel time on 3 and 20 going to the Kipling Transit Hub not the TTC Kipling Bus Terminal like they do today both ways??? The other option is a TTC bay be setup with a fare systems to get Mississauga riders to pay their TTC fare. How will enforcement of fare be handle departing TTC bay??

 

Route 26 and 76 have to be beef up on the weekend, especially on Sunday as 26 is a pit for service that day caused by 7 riders that screw it for everyone.

 

Route 20 will follow the current route 49 east of Mills like it does today and have no issues with that since next to no riders on Bloor are going east in the first place.

 

Under the old plan, 26 was to operate out of the new Islington bus terminal as that where it was to end and start.

 

Will YRT be doing this for some of TTC routes in the coming years as well as it should happen???

 

Expect more changes to TTC system with other systems taking part of it over, especially the remaining routes of the 20 on the chopping block.

[Gil]

I'm wondering what the arrangement will be for the segment of Eglinton that forms the boundary between Mississauga and Toronto?  That's probably the only part of Toronto that isn't accessible by the TTC (and when it was, a second fare was required).  It is ironic that a MTO Drive Test Centre is situated at Eglinton and Rakely isn't accessible by the TTC.  The Transit is clearly in Mississauga, but the 35 EGLINTON has stops on either side of the Eglinton boundary.

The agreement does allow for MiWay to serve TTC terminals similar to the PanAm Games routes.  Would MiWay consider moving a route or two from Kipling Terminal to Kipling Station.  Transferring between MiWay routes within Toronto should be simplified with the agreement.

Judging by the posts in the YRT thread they'll be piloting a few route with open-door boarding as well.  Will the handful of Brampton Transit and DRT routes be included as well or do they have to be added individually?