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5 hours ago, drum118 said:

Its the same rule for 107 that had 2 white and an orange bus on it today.

If it's a block that is supposed to be out all day then it's supposed to get a blue 40" however some runs such as run 71 where it does one trip of the 107 before going doing the 70 may get a local bus given that the bus for that block doesn't leave the garage until 306pm which by that time they could have run out by then.

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16 hours ago, drum118 said:

The rule is a bus is a bus and to maintain service, you use what is at hand regardless what color or what it is. Customers come first, color/type come 2nd.

It really would be ideal if all the busses were in their property routes at all times, but due to the current situation, that's pretty much impossible. In times of desperation, they will pretty much stop caring about the type of bus and rather try their best to make sure that there at least is a bus there in the first place. 

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0702, 0704, 0705, 0706, 0707, 0708, 0709, 0711, 0712, 0888, 0889, 0892, 0893, 0898 and 0941 have been retired. 0891 and 0894 have been removed from service but not retired as of yet.

0879 (failure) and 0920 (fire) will also not be returning. 

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9 minutes ago, Silly Tilley said:

0702, 0704, 0705, 0706, 0707, 0708, 0709, 0712, 0888, 0892, 0893, 0898 and 0941 have been retired. 0891 and 0894 have been removed from service but not retired as of yet.

0879 (failure) and 0920 (fire) will also not be returning. 

Wow, didn't see that coming so soon...thought it would happen in the coming months. This must mean we have new units?

Any specifics on 0879?

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16 minutes ago, MiWay0310 said:

Wow, didn't see that coming so soon...thought it would happen in the coming months. This must mean we have new units?

Any specifics on 0879?

Edited the list to include 2 units I forgot.

As for 0879 there are photos on page 318 of this thread that show what happened.

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7 minutes ago, Silly Tilley said:

Edited the list to include 2 units I forgot.

As for 0879 there are photos on page 318 of this thread that show what happened.

Does this mean the new Nova's are coming in or are they just stripping them to get the farebox and other electronics ready?

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14 minutes ago, TTC 9701 said:

Does this mean the new Nova's are coming in or are they just stripping them to get the farebox and other electronics ready?

One would think so, however all the buses listed save 1 are 30 footers...so I can't tell, but my idea is that they aren't here just yet. 

24 minutes ago, Silly Tilley said:

Edited the list to include 2 units I forgot.

As for 0879 there are photos on page 318 of this thread that show what happened.

Yeah I remember that...I didn't know it was that bad. Frame/chassis damage? I know that situation was serious, but I never thought it would be written off...

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1 hour ago, MiWay0310 said:

Yeah I remember that...I didn't know it was that bad. Frame/chassis damage? I know that situation was serious, but I never thought it would be written off...

More like the stuff underneath the bus got badly damaged and was beyond repair given that the bus is on its way out... 

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13 hours ago, MiWay0310 said:

True...the 08 artics are nearing the end, and that is super super sad. Best buses in the fleet IMO. 

They still have 6 years left. I remember when they were basically new (and operating on the 1 Dundas.) Stop making me feel old.

15 hours ago, Silly Tilley said:

0702, 0704, 0705, 0706, 0707, 0708, 0709, 0711, 0712, 0888, 0889, 0892, 0893, 0898 and 0941 have been retired. 0891 and 0894 have been removed from service but not retired as of yet.

0879 (failure) and 0920 (fire) will also not be returning. 

Isn't it 0888 that caught fire?

 

EDIT: NVM. Just realized that 0920 was actually a D40LFR

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1 hour ago, FlyerLFR said:

They still have 6 years left. I remember when they were basically new (and operating on the 1 Dundas.) Stop making me feel old.

Isn't MiWay trying to get a 12 year lifespan now? If thats the case, these buses have around 2 years left no? Or am I completely wrong? The 03/05s are just here for support until the new units arrive.

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1 hour ago, FlyerLFR said:

They still have 6 years left. I remember when they were basically new (and operating on the 1 Dundas.) Stop making me feel old.

Where the hell did you get 6 years? Artics are still on the 12 year lifespan. And stop, you're not that old..

13 minutes ago, MiWay0310 said:

Isn't MiWay trying to get a 12 year lifespan now? If thats the case, these buses have around 2 years left no? Or am I completely wrong? The 03/05s are just here for support until the new units arrive.

MiWay used to be on the 12 year lifespan for all buses beginning with the 98xx Orion VIs however it was changed to 12 years for 30's and 60's and 15 years for 40's. 

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30 minutes ago, MiWay0310 said:

Isn't MiWay trying to get a 12 year lifespan now? If thats the case, these buses have around 2 years left no? Or am I completely wrong? The 03/05s are just here for support until the new units arrive.

They drop to 12 years some years ago, but management was forced to go to 15 as now because of lack of funding from councils. The lack of funding lead to no expansion buses. The exception to the 15 years were the 30' & 60' that were 12 years. The 30' were to have 10 years. The 60's getting 12 years has been an issue to the point that fair number never made it or were so tape and wire doing so.

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Usually 40ft can live little bit longer than 30ft and 60ft it depends to the engine. 0929 retired from service due to fire but doesn't reach to lifespan because they cannot repaired and had to be written off and not sure about 0879 if is written off or not. Just stop bragging but think about what happen to 30ft and 60ft when it's reach to lifespan and think about 40ft can live little bit longer.

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27 minutes ago, curlingteam333 said:

Usually 40ft can live little bit longer than 30ft and 60ft it depends to the engine. 0929 retired from service due to fire but doesn't reach to lifespan because they cannot repaired and had to be written off and not sure about 0879 if is written off or not. Just stop bragging but think about what happen to 30ft and 60ft when it's reach to lifespan and think about 40ft can live little bit longer.

0929 doesn't exist

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On 10/15/2017 at 2:47 PM, curlingteam333 said:

Usually 40ft can live little bit longer than 30ft and 60ft it depends to the engine. 

No it doesn't just depend on the engine. Other stuff may cost a lot to fix which may not be worth the cost if the bus is being retired in the next couple years. ANY BUS can live long if it gets taken very well care of, not just 40 footers..

On 10/15/2017 at 2:47 PM, curlingteam333 said:

0929 retired from service due to fire but doesn't reach to lifespan because they cannot repaired and had to be written off

Not true, the bus can be repaired, it's just the back area that was burnt. If the bus was completely burnt to the ground then its obviously beyond repair. 0920 is already 9 years old so probably the repair cost was higher than the vehicle's current value. 

On 10/15/2017 at 2:47 PM, curlingteam333 said:

and not sure if 0879 if is written off or not. 

Doesn't matter. Its retired, its not coming back, that's all we know

On 10/15/2017 at 2:47 PM, curlingteam333 said:

Just stop bragging but think about what happen to 30ft and 60ft when it's reach to lifespan and think about 40ft can live little bit longer.

Like I said before, any bus can live for long if it gets taken good care of. 

 

 

On 10/15/2017 at 3:15 PM, ONQCBusFan said:

0929 doesn't exist

 

On 10/15/2017 at 3:28 PM, OCTranspo/STO Fan said:

Correct. There was no 0929 to begin with, according to the wiki. Maybe curlingteam333 said the wrong fleet number?

Come on guys, @Silly Tilley said 0920. It's quite obvious that he got the wrong fleet number...

 

 

Edit:

A general note for everyone:

If you are not sure what happened to a specific unit, please flip back to previous pages to find out. There are so many questions asked recently that were already answered. Such as what happened to 0888, 0879, 0920, etc

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15 minutes ago, noahrp24 said:

Come on guys, @Silly Tilley said 0920. It's quite obvious that he got the wrong fleet number...

 

In fairness to myself, I don't know that much about MiWay, and I didn't look at his post in the first place. I had to look it up, then I posted that. So no, it wasn't that obvious to me.

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18 hours ago, Silly Tilley said:

0702, 0704, 0705, 0706, 0707, 0708, 0709, 0711, 0712, 0888, 0889, 0892, 0893, 0898 and 0941 have been retired. 0891 and 0894 have been removed from service but not retired as of yet.

0879 (failure) and 0920 (fire) will also not be returning. 

I assume that 0899 and 0938 are in the same "limbo" as 0891 and 0894?

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Better start prepping to get your pics of the 08 60s then...man I'm going to miss those things. I know 2 years is a long time, but before you know it they'll be gone...

Its amazing how time flies, it seems like just a couple years ago when the brand new 10s were rolling out with the new liveries.

You have to give New Flyer credit, their "R" suffix designs/models have aged really well. They look like they were designed just the other day. 

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5 hours ago, MiWay0310 said:

Better start prepping to get your pics of the 08 60s then...man I'm going to miss those things. I know 2 years is a long time, but before you know it they'll be gone...

Its amazing how time flies, it seems like just a couple years ago when the brand new 10s were rolling out with the new liveries.

You have to give New Flyer credit, their "R" suffix designs/models have aged really well. They look like they were designed just the other day. 

The 2008 D60LFRs aren't going to retire until 2020, with the last of the D40LFs. You'll still see them around a lot.

On the other hand, the 2010 MiExpress D60LFRs are starting to show their age as well as with the 2010 EPA10s.

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15 hours ago, mikenoza said:

The 2008 D60LFRs aren't going to retire until 2020, with the last of the D40LFs. You'll still see them around a lot.

On the other hand, the 2010 MiExpress D60LFRs are starting to show their age as well as with the 2010 EPA10s.

So the 60 feet buses still have a lifespan of 12 years?

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23 hours ago, drum118 said:

They drop to 12 years some years ago, but management was forced to go to 15 as now because of lack of funding from councils. The lack of funding lead to no expansion buses. The exception to the 15 years were the 30' & 60' that were 12 years. The 30' were to have 10 years. The 60's getting 12 years has been an issue to the point that fair number never made it or were so tape and wire doing so.

 

17 minutes ago, mikenoza said:

Yes, the only buses that have the 15 year lifespan are the 40 footers. The rest have a 10 year (32-foots) & 12 years (60-foots)

They WERE to have 10 years. They are still under the 12 year lifespan even though they are being retired this year...

21 minutes ago, FlyerLFR said:

So the 60 feet buses still have a lifespan of 12 years?

Can you bother scrolling to older posts and find the answer yourself? It was answered multiple times already. 

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