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Here are some pictures of new apparatus for Hamilton Fire for 2019. Besides these, P 25, P 26 & P 27 are being replaced this year. E 1 & E 6 are also new for this year. Do not know where prese

C-Max (Hamilton's equipment outfitter) has four new KME pumpers for Hamilton on site. Unsure if they are the Urban Engines or Rural Pumpers or how many of each. 

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On 11/1/2019 at 7:14 PM, JRM1000 said:

Does anyone know what happened to E3? They’re still using P43

Engine 3 is back in service. I could not see it's 300 number, but it looks like it had a complete paint job. Hamilton usually sends most apparatus in for refurbishing, painting and upgrades around the 10 to 12 year period. 

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5 hours ago, Hamilton said:

Engine 3 is back in service. I could not see it's 300 number, but it looks like it had a complete paint job. Hamilton usually sends most apparatus in for refurbishing, painting and upgrades around the 10 to 12 year period. 

Saw it a few weeks ago. Has had it’s new blues installed. 
 

I had wondered if it was a new truck as it looked brand new. New paint makes sense. 
 

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43 minutes ago, Penguin Sniper FTW said:

I'm guessing P10 is in service. It just got a couple calls on the incidents feed.

L1 is out of service, the spare ladders are either OOS as well or covering other ladders. L10 or L20 are sometimes sent to other Ladders when this occurs. Essentially at minimum, L1, L4 and L9 are always operating a Ladder truck.

In this case, L1 is using L10 and their crew is running a spare pump.

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Hamilton Fire Department 2020 Equipment Budget Request

Annual Equipment Replacement $592,000

Waterdown New “Station 31”, $4,200,000

Annual Vehicle Replacement $4,305,000

New Hazmat Foam Response Apparatus $550.000

New Nature Trail Response Apparatus $150,000

  • In 2020 HFD plans to purchase: 1 (one) Rural Pumper and 2 (two) Aerial devices to replace 3 (three) existing similar 20 (twenty) year old fire apparatus, and 6 (six) support vehicles to replace existing 10 year old (+) support vehicles.
  • HFD will acquire response apparatus to transport and supply firefighting foam to respond to hazardous materials incidents.
  • An off-road vehicle equipped with a pump and capable of carrying a stretchered patient off a trail would assist firefighters in extinguishing small fires on the trail system and performing a rescue in a timely manner.
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22 hours ago, Hamilton said:

Hamilton Fire Department 2020 Equipment Budget Request

Annual Equipment Replacement $592,000

Waterdown New “Station 31”, $4,200,000

Annual Vehicle Replacement $4,305,000

New Hazmat Foam Response Apparatus $550.000

New Nature Trail Response Apparatus $150,000

  • In 2020 HFD plans to purchase: 1 (one) Rural Pumper and 2 (two) Aerial devices to replace 3 (three) existing similar 20 (twenty) year old fire apparatus, and 6 (six) support vehicles to replace existing 10 year old (+) support vehicles.
  • HFD will acquire response apparatus to transport and supply firefighting foam to respond to hazardous materials incidents.
  • An off-road vehicle equipped with a pump and capable of carrying a stretchered patient off a trail would assist firefighters in extinguishing small fires on the trail system and performing a rescue in a timely manner.

Council passed these items in the Capital Budget, so they’re now confirmed.

Awaiting approval of the Operating Budget to hire 14 additional firefighters. 5 each for Station 24 and 17’s additional day crews and 4 for the new Training/Accountability Officer position. 

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Waterdown’s growth, ‘increased risk profile’ spark need for second fire station

New Waterdown station to come with 15 firefighters and two trucks

04 February 2020 - 06:28 AM by Saira Peesker Special to the Flamborough Review

Hamilton city council has approved $8 million to build a second Waterdown fire station and purchase two new fire trucks. It is also looking at hiring five more firefighters for the town's existing station.

The money for the station and trucks was allocated in the city's 2020 capital budget, which was finalized late last year. Now, as the city works through operating budget deliberations, council will decide whether to approve a requested Waterdown-based day crew of five new firefighters to help fill the needs of the growing community as it waits for the new station.

Hamilton Fire Department deputy chief John Verbeek says the rapid pace of development and population growth in the area has put extra pressure on Station 24, the existing Waterdown station on Parkside Drive. Firefighters there — a mix of about 20 paid employees and 25 volunteers — cover a vast rural area outside the town as well.

"At the time of amalgamation, when you think about Waterdown, it was a suburban, rural-type community," Verbeek told the Review. "It's become much more of an urban-suburban community. There's not only residential, but industry is starting to move near Highway 5 and Highway 6 … The risk profile for that community has significantly changed."

Verbeek says the prevalence of townhouses and other multi-unit dwellings means more risk of fires spreading between units. Further, he said, newly constructed homes tend to use more lightweight materials than the homes of the past, particularly for roof trusses and floor joists. "That type of material tends to burn hotter and faster. Now we've got more of a risk of a collapse."

The station's location has yet to be determined, according to assistant deputy chief Shawn De Jager. "Currently we are working with stakeholders to begin the process of defining the station requirements/concept and determining the location," he said in an email. "It is expected that this work should be completed by the fourth quarter of this year."

Verbeek noted that stakeholders currently being consulted are internal; he expects a public input process will be launched once more details are available.

Coun. Judi Partridge, who represents the area on Hamilton city council, said one of many locations being considered is on the Waterdown bypass, east of Centre Road.

"We've been having meetings and discussions for years and looking at potential locations," she said in an interview Jan. 31, adding, "One of the driving factors behind it is to utilize city-owned property."

The fire department's 10-year service plan, published last year, envisioned a land purchase for the station in 2019. It forecast the design and build phase for 2020 to 2022, and 15 full-time-equivalent positions hired for the new station in 2022.

Verbeek said that while the timeline is slightly delayed from when it was devised more than a year ago, things are moving along relatively on course.

According to that document, the existing Waterdown station "has on average 1.96 calls per day. This represents a 5.2 per cent annual increase over the last five years, or 22 per cent increase in 2018 when compared to 2014. Analysis of data for (calls that require four trucks, such as structure fires) reveals an average of 8.6 ... calls per year, which has doubled in the last two years."

The plan suggests a goal of 10 minutes and 54 seconds from the phone call to the arrival of all four trucks. The current response time for a four-truck unit, known as an Effective Firefighting and Rescue Force (EFRF), in Waterdown is 18 minutes and 46 seconds.

"Given the transition to an urban area and the increased risk profile there is a need to improve the EFRF response time in Waterdown."

https://www.hamiltonnews.com/news-story/9841335-waterdown-s-growth-increased-risk-profile-spark-need-for-second-fire-station/

 

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Saw Ladder 5 at Mechanical this morning. It must be very close to going in service, it was delivered over 7 months ago. Ran as Ladder 20 for a few months in the summer and has sat since then. Seems like a very long delay.

Also, does anyone know where Engine 5 will go? It's newer than Engines 3, 4, 7, 11, 17, 21 and 24, and the city does not have any more engines/urban pumpers on order for the next two years at least.

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2 hours ago, rescue1cal said:

Also, does anyone know where Engine 5 will go? It's newer than Engines 3, 4, 7, 11, 17, 21 and 24, and the city does not have any more engines/urban pumpers on order for the next two years at least.

It will most likely go to replace the oldest or highest millage Engine in the fleet. That Engine will go to become a spare Engine. They need more full size spare Engines with a similar layout.

Engine 5 – 2011

  • Engine 3   – 2006
  • Engine 17 – 2006
  • Engine 4   – 2008
  • Engine 7   – 2008
  • Engine 11 – 2008
  • Engine 21 – 2008
  • Engine 24 – 2008
  • Engine 1   – 2014
  • Engine 2   – 2014
  • Engine 8   – 2017
  • Engine 12 – 2017
  • Engine 23 – 2017

Spares

Engine 45 – 2006 – part of the original 3 Engine purchased.

Engine 41 – 2003 – not part of the original Engine class of pumpers. Modified to have the extra equipment the Engines hold.

My money would be on E3 or E17. E11 is also busy and may have high millage.

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20 hours ago, Hamilton said:

I can't see the 300 number on your picture but it may have had extra equipment put on it and became E41.

Yep, I believe that it is Engine 41.

Speaking of which, I know the Engines carry more rescue equipment than the old pumps. Is that the case with the new Pumpers or are they just transitioning the name back? Ie are there gonna be certain rigs remaining "Engines" and some labelled "Pumpers" dispersed throughout the city in the long run, or will they all be Pumpers once they're replaced eventually?

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1 minute ago, Penguin Sniper FTW said:

Do the people that work as the hazmat units stay at the station and take a regular shift time, or do a POV response when there is a hazmat call?

(Hazmat 2 and support 4)

Everyone assigned to Engine 4 and Ladder 4 are trained to the HazMat technician level. Haz 2 and Support 4 are unstaffed. On a Haz call, the Ladder 4 crew leaves their rig and staffs both of those units and responds along with Engine 4.

Engine’s 8 and 11 are also trained to the HazMat Tech Level, one or both of these units will typically respond as well on HazMat calls to assist. 

One of the 4 HazMat trained units will also respond on calls for “Odours” and Natural Gas or propane leaks.

This provides ~16 HazMat Techs per shift. Technical Rescue is set up in a similar way.

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Engines 3, 12, 17 and 23 are High Angle and Confined Space Rescue Tech certified. Support 23 carries gear for this. 

When the Rescues were delivered in 2010, Rescue 1 was the “High Rise” unit, responding to all Multiple Alarm high rise fires in the city. Rescue 4 was the HazMat Unit and Rescue 6 (soon became R12) was the Technical Rescue Unit. S23 was S6 until a couple years ago. Obviously, with the move away from Rescue Units this is not the case anymore, and these responsibilities have been divided between various Engines and Ladders.

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