Jump to content
Mike

TTC Service Changes

Recommended Posts

11 hours ago, dowlingm said:

Flexities in service: 204

They are running about a 17% spare ratio in AM peak, with the number of Flexities in Toronto. Not sure it gets much better than that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/6/2020 at 9:23 AM, The Queensway said:

32 Eglinton West has a new 32F route, it goes to Royal York. The route was created specifically for those who go to York MCI school. 

Doesn't help! The 73 is still a shit show.

 

On 1/4/2020 at 5:17 PM, Xtrazsteve said:

That is the same case with the 46E. It operates express depending on the operator. They are likely to run express if the bus is already late.

Neither of those trips are express.....according to Vision anyways.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/17/2020 at 11:05 AM, nfitz said:

They are running about a 17% spare ratio in AM peak, with the number of Flexities in Toronto. Not sure it gets much better than that.

My point was that when that service summary was generated, the number of production spec cars delivered, never mind in service, was more like 200 (4601-4603, 4401). But TTC gotta keep massaging things to make it look good.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Eglinton West station riders are going to have a 5 month headache when the bus terminal temporary closes. Changes are happening during that time including a temporary new bus route.

http://thecrosstown.ca/news-media/whats-new/eglinton-west-station-bus-loop-closure-late-march-2020-to-late-summer-2020

63A Ossington will terminate at Ossington station. I'm assuming 63B will continue to St Clair as usual.

109 Ranee will terminal at Lawrence West station.

A new 163 Oakwood route will service north of Ossington station to Lawrence West station along Marlee.

32D Eglinton West extended to Eglinton station. To make room, 51 Leslie and 56 Leaside will loop differently to use the south most bus bays.

Edited by Xtrazsteve
Project page edited. All 63 buses would operated on 63B to St Clair.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
47 minutes ago, Xtrazsteve said:

63A Ossington will terminate at Ossington station. I'm assuming 63B will continue to St Clair as usual.

A new 163 Oakwood route will service north of Ossington station to Lawrence West station along Marlee.

Question for those familiar with ridership pattern on 63. Do most riders south of Bloor get off at Bloor and riders off the subway are the ones on the 63 north of Bloor? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

Eglinton West station riders are going to have a 5 month headache when the bus terminal temporary closes. Changes are happening during that time including a temporary new bus route.

http://thecrosstown.ca/news-media/whats-new/eglinton-west-station-bus-loop-closure-late-march-2020-to-late-summer-2020

63A Ossington will terminate at Ossington station. I'm assuming 63B will continue to St Clair as usual.

109 Ranee will terminal at Lawrence West station.

A new 163 Oakwood route will service north of Ossington station to Lawrence West station along Marlee.

32D Eglinton West extended to Eglinton station. To make room, 51 Leslie and 56 Leaside will loop differently to use the south most bus bays.

Lucky to see the 163 number revived for the new 163 OAKWOOD bus. I wonder if this should be permanent beyond 2020.

As for the 63, will there be some divisional assignments like 63 OSSINGTON at Mt. Dennis and the 163 OAKWOOD at Wilson?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Express Network said:

Lucky to see the 163 number revived for the new 163 OAKWOOD bus. I wonder if this should be permanent beyond 2020.

As for the 63, will there be some divisional assignments like 63 OSSINGTON at Mt. Dennis and the 163 OAKWOOD at Wilson?

Probably not. People on Marlee wants to get to the subway and people on Oakwood aren't going to Marlee.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

163 could still survive after opening, going from Ossington to Eglinton West (or Oakwood) stations - with the 109 returned to it's old route.

Though surely most of those on Marlee area going to be faster to just walk to one of the 3 nearby Line 1 stations.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Mike said:

Question for those familiar with ridership pattern on 63. Do most riders south of Bloor get off at Bloor and riders off the subway are the ones on the 63 north of Bloor? 

Somewhat, there's a good turnover at the station, but there is a good amount who still stay on. It's quite a bit busier south of the station though.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The project page has been updated to reflect that 63 Ossington will continue to operate north to St Clair. 163 Oakwood will continue to operate from Ossington Station to Lawrence West Station, providing overlapping service on Ossington north of Bloor.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Today I heard as of the March 29 board period Keele Stn. will be closed for elevator const. Anyone know the detour routings for the buses that serve this station? 41, 80 and 89.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, shambala said:

Today I heard as of the March 29 board period Keele Stn. will be closed for elevator const. Anyone know the detour routings for the buses that serve this station? 41, 80 and 89.

Check out the TTC's project page for the Keele Station - Easier Access project for more details. The relevant section is below:

Quote

The bus loop will be closed for approximately 6 months in 2020 (TBD) in order to upgrade/repave the bus roadway, bus platforms and to complete some preliminary underground work. During this time, TTC riders will board buses on-street or at a High Park station. A detailed transit service plan will be provided closer to the time of the closure with updated signage in place.

This suggests that High Park Station will be used as the turn-around loop (much like 79 Scarlett Rd buses were doing until this weekend), and buses will likely follow the routing of the 189 Stockyards bus and do pick-up/drop-offs outside Keele Station.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
34 minutes ago, Articulated said:

Check out the TTC's project page for the Keele Station - Easier Access project for more details. The relevant section is below:

This suggests that High Park Station will be used as the turn-around loop (much like 79 Scarlett Rd buses were doing until this weekend), and buses will likely follow the routing of the 189 Stockyards bus and do pick-up/drop-offs outside Keele Station.

The 79 didn't enter the bus loop but instead dropped people on street and continue west on Bloor to Runnymede. I think the 41/89 would terminate in the bus loop like the 506 substitution did.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

The 79 didn't enter the bus loop but instead dropped people on street and continue west on Bloor to Runnymede. I think the 41/89 would terminate in the bus loop like the 506 substitution did.  

I sat outside High Park Station for about 40 minutes one Sunday afternoon; all three 79 buses dropped off outside the station, then turned into the bus loop to lay over. Whether they do that at all times of day would depend on whether they were running late or had enough time to lay over, or if the operator needed to use the washroom.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

https://stevemunro.ca/2020/03/05/ttc-service-changes-sunday-march-29-2020/

 

Major changes inculde 

-Keele Bus Loop closing ; 41/941 extended and looping via Parkside,  Howard Park, Roncesvalles, and Bloor 

-89/989 extended to High Park Station 

-80 and 30 interlined as one route 

-505 returning to streetcars based out of Lesile 

-511 returning to shuttle buses for the rest of the year 

-63, 163 changes take effect along with the closure of Eglinton West Station bus loop

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, CLRV4094 said:

https://stevemunro.ca/2020/03/05/ttc-service-changes-sunday-march-29-2020/

 

Major changes inculde 

-Keele Bus Loop closing ; 41/941 extended and looping via Parkside,  Howard Park, Roncesvalles, and Bloor 

-89/989 extended to High Park Station 

-80 and 30 interlined as one route 

-505 returning to streetcars based out of Lesile 

-511 returning to shuttle buses for the rest of the year 

-63, 163 changes take effect along with the closure of Eglinton West Station bus loop

The question is which division is doing the 511 buses and 505 trippers?

On 3/1/2020 at 5:20 AM, leylandvictory2 said:

negative

 

Not quite. I heard from a buddy of mine on the IG group chat who’s neighbor signed up for next board and no mention of the 86/986 and 116/905 at Malvern’s sign up sheet. But I’m confident the two routes will move there in the May board or later.

But there’s one big problem: Malvern has to move a number of routes to other divisions to free up for the 86 and 116.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, Express Network said:

The question is which division is doing the 511 buses and 505 trippers?

Mount Dennis is gonna look after the 511, while Eglinton and Wilson will cover the trippers

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Express Network said:

I heard from a buddy of mine on the IG group chat who’s neighbor signed up for next board and no mention of the 86/986 and 116/905 at Malvern’s sign up sheet. But I’m confident the two routes will move there in the May board or later.

But there’s one big problem: Malvern has to move a number of routes to other divisions to free up for the 86 and 116.

Combined, the 86/116/905/986 use 59 buses in the AM peak. Even if it was a weird play to get the artics on there, to take the entire Steeles East and Sheppard East routes would require 71 buses. If what you are saying is true, that would also require Malvern to take some north/south routes from Eglinton, just to balance out the buses between the two. I just don't see this happening.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/5/2020 at 5:30 PM, CLRV4094 said:

 

-63, 163 changes take effect along with the closure of Eglinton West Station bus loop

Regarding the 109 RANEE, they still have the 109 "Flemington" and 109A "Varna" branches, which was the pre-August 1978 routing, but I do not know if they still have them on the destination signs. The Flemington branch should go with the 109D designation.

23 hours ago, meltingtomato said:

Combined, the 86/116/905/986 use 59 buses in the AM peak. Even if it was a weird play to get the artics on there, to take the entire Steeles East and Sheppard East routes would require 71 buses. If what you are saying is true, that would also require Malvern to take some north/south routes from Eglinton, just to balance out the buses between the two. I just don't see this happening.

They can require to divest the 21, 53/953 (which uses 41 buses) and 129 to other divisions until McNicoll opens.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Express Network said:

Regarding the 109 RANEE, they still have the 109 "Flemington" and 109A "Varna" branches, which was the pre-August 1978 routing, but I do not know if they still have them on the destination signs. The Flemington branch should go with the 109D designation.

AFAIK they don't have those signs. They also shouldn't make you happy while confusing 99% of the regular riders with new signs for temporary changes. Even being shorting to Lawrence West, they should keep the 109B/C both directions to avoid confusion. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Was at Keele Station a few days ago and both sides have only haft a platform. Elevator shaft are being built onto the existing platform. The eastbound platform has steel mostly in place and by the looks of things and a new door will be built to gain access to 89 old bay that is now where 80 used to be. That new door will be the only way to access the platform as the elevator block access from the current door.

They have added bump out extension for the 2 platforms on the north side.

When buses layover on the east side on both side, the 41 artic's have an issue lining up with the platform.

Walking transfer will be in effect for those 6 months.

Not surprise if a route or more is operating out of Malvern in April or May based on my last visit last month, let alone in Dec as most of it was done, excepted inside and the employee parking lot across the street. How much work inside to be done unknown since the doors were close and a full crew on site for a Saturday.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...