Shaun Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 hmm, it looks like as usual those of us in the Long Branch area get screwed as usual, I guaruntee that uit wont be every 12-13 minutes, I've seen myself wait 45 minutes for a darn car out at Long Branch DURING THE DAYTIME! I'll keep my thoughts to myself for now about this change, I'm going to give the 501 another chance, I'd given up dealing with it or depending on it since the time last fall when I waited 45 minutes and was late for a very importent job interview, because of the crap 501, I've gotten used to using the 123/45/110/76/66 to get down to the Lakeshore, I love riding the streetcars, much more than the subway, but I got sick of the crap... It may take a bit longer walking from those routes, but at least I KNOW I'm gonna get there.... Doesnt help that they are really short on cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 hmm, it looks like as usual those of us in the Long Branch area get screwed as usual, I guaruntee that uit wont be every 12-13 minutes, I've seen myself wait 45 minutes for a darn car out at Long Branch DURING THE DAYTIME! I'll keep my thoughts to myself for now about this change, I'm going to give the 501 another chance, I'd given up dealing with it or depending on it since the time last fall when I waited 45 minutes and was late for a very importent job interview, because of the crap 501, I've gotten used to using the 123/45/110/76/66 to get down to the Lakeshore, I love riding the streetcars, much more than the subway, but I got sick of the crap... It may take a bit longer walking from those routes, but at least I KNOW I'm gonna get there.... I disagree. I think it will be an improvement to those at each end of the line. The not-so-dirty secret about short turns is that they're not always intended to fill service gaps. Short turns are ordered to put *operators* back on time for relief. By segmenting the line and operating each end of the line by its closest yard... you cut down in the mileage away from the relief point. I'd surmise that this would reduce the number of short turns (and consequently number of gaps out to the Branch)... because supervisors *should* be able to keep each part of the line in the right running order and headways out to each end of the line. Whether this actually happens come October will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buschic Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I disagree. I think it will be an improvement to those at each end of the line. The not-so-dirty secret about short turns is that they're not always intended to fill service gaps. Short turns are ordered to put *operators* back on time for relief. By segmenting the line and operating each end of the line by its closest yard... you cut down in the mileage away from the relief point. I'd surmise that this would reduce the number of short turns (and consequently number of gaps out to the Branch)... because supervisors *should* be able to keep each part of the line in the right running order and headways out to each end of the line. Whether this actually happens come October will be interesting. I have NEVER seen or heard of a Street (route) supervisor actually being posted west of Roncy Carhouse, NEVER, the farthest west I've seen on is at Bay street... The east end whine more, also it seems that money talks, as most of those people out east of Broadview have money and councilliors living out there.. out here in Etobicoke, the west end is in a lower income area, and not many of us whine, instead they just get back into their cars and ttc loses customers.. I've been out here 3 years.. nothing has changed... but I'm noty holding my breath for a miracle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The east end whine more, also it seems that money talks, as most of those people out east of Broadview have money and councilliors living out there..out here in Etobicoke, the west end is in a lower income area, and not many of us whine, instead they just get back into their cars and ttc loses customers.. Have you ever been east of Broadview? The area from the Don to Greenwood is not exactly one of the most posh in Toronto, and I think that its fair to say that it's no better off (monetarily) than a lot of Lakeshore West, if not worse. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM artic 5001 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I have NEVER seen or heard of a Street (route) supervisor actually being posted west of Roncy Carhouse, NEVER, the farthest west I've seen on is at Bay street...The east end whine more, also it seems that money talks, as most of those people out east of Broadview have money and councilliors living out there.. out here in Etobicoke, the west end is in a lower income area, and not many of us whine, instead they just get back into their cars and ttc loses customers.. I've been out here 3 years.. nothing has changed... but I'm noty holding my breath for a miracle... That's not entirely true. For a few periods, they placed line supervisors at humber and Long branch loops in the afternoons to monitor things. That has since changed and now there are 3 line supervisors along the line: Queen west (west of Yonge), Queen East(east of Yonge but is quite often at Connaught) and Connaught/Russell CH. I do not know how or where they will place Supervisors after the split comes into effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 October service summary has been added to the TTC website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Queensway and Wilson are going to be helping out on 512 again with Arrow Rd and Mt Dennis. Weekend service will be Arrow Rd and Wilson. So during rush hour any bus from the west end divisions (excluding the 7200s) can be found on St Clair. All of Birchmount routes are now designated bike rack routes, leaving only the non-accessible bus routes left to be made bike rack routes. 145, as I and many others though, will be a Queensway route. The branches will be 145 Kipling-Downtown and 145A Park Lawn-Downtown. It uses 3 buses in both AM and PM peak service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambala Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 That's not entirely true. For a few periods, they placed line supervisors at humber and Long branch loops in the afternoons to monitor things. That has since changed and now there are 3 line supervisors along the line: Queen west (west of Yonge), Queen East(east of Yonge but is quite often at Connaught) and Connaught/Russell CH.I do not know how or where they will place Supervisors after the split comes into effect. Agreed. I see supervisors out there all the time at various locations on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcbusdude Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 can someone give me the summory for the 2008 bus division list before Mount Dennis opened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I spoke to a driver on the 47 today as he said that the 41 is going to arrow road for next board. The sign up is already complete for next board so all I really need is one member to confirm whether it is true or false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Orion Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I spoke to a driver on the 47 today as he said that the 41 is going to arrow road for next board. The sign up is already complete for next board so all I really need is one member to confirm whether it is true or false. False. The October's service summary still shows 41 Keele out of Mt Dennis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambala Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 False. The October's service summary still shows 41 Keele out of Mt Dennis. I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I second that. Good. I had that in mind as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniewitt Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Can someone explain why the TTC is rerouting the 192 off Hwy 427? News story here http://transit.toronto.on.ca/archives/webl...92_airpor.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Orion Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Can someone explain why the TTC is rerouting the 192 off Hwy 427? News story herehttp://transit.toronto.on.ca/archives/webl...92_airpor.shtml This is being discussed in another thread but the reason is because of the construction on Hwy 427. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Contrary to reports over on Transit Toronto about the new 145 Humber Bay Express route launching next week, there are two stops immediately east of the Humber at Windermere and Ellis Aves. most likely to serve residents in the condo developments springing up there. The existing 80 QUEENSWAY stops along Lake Shore did not indicate that the 145 stopped there too, but I'm assuming that they don't as there isn't much potential express ridership for the stops between Ellis and Parkside. Meanwhile, the October service changes have yet to make an appearance on the TTC's Service Changes page with less than a week to go. Aren't they usually up by now or are they holding for 48 hours notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM artic 5001 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Contrary to reports over on Transit Toronto about the new 145 Humber Bay Express route launching next week, there are two stops immediately east of the Humber at Windermere and Ellis Aves. most likely to serve residents in the condo developments springing up there. The existing 80 QUEENSWAY stops along Lake Shore did not indicate that the 145 stopped there too, but I'm assuming that they don't as there isn't much potential express ridership for the stops between Ellis and Parkside.Meanwhile, the October service changes have yet to make an appearance on the TTC's Service Changes page with less than a week to go. Aren't they usually up by now or are they holding for 48 hours notice? They usuallypost service changes the friday before they take effect, so I guess that is going to be the case this time. You'd think with some major changes coming that they would post sonner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Service changes have been added to TTC site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDE Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Service changes have been added to TTC site. This is bullocks. They made no mention of regular fare on the three parallel-to-subway 140-something express routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Â Â This is bullocks. They made no mention of regular fare on the three parallel-to-subway 140-something express routes.That has been delayed till some time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D40-90 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 They probably still want people to pay the extra fare by accident. lol. who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmoniumNitrate Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Contrary to reports over on Transit Toronto about the new 145 Humber Bay Express route launching next week, there are two stops immediately east of the Humber at Windermere and Ellis Aves. most likely to serve residents in the condo developments springing up there. The existing 80 QUEENSWAY stops along Lake Shore did not indicate that the 145 stopped there too, but I'm assuming that they don't as there isn't much potential express ridership for the stops between Ellis and Parkside.Meanwhile, the October service changes have yet to make an appearance on the TTC's Service Changes page with less than a week to go. Aren't they usually up by now or are they holding for 48 hours notice? Which garage is going to run the 145 Humber Bay Express? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcgeek Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Which garage is going to run the 145 Humber Bay Express? IMO, it should be Queensway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63 Ossington Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Which garage is going to run the 145 Humber Bay Express? IMO, it should be Queensway. I would think so as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 It will be Queensway, and it is going to need three buses in each rush hour. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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