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20 hours ago, 81-717 said:

Hardly seems fair that 416ers have to pay a 905 fare when crossing into the 905, while 905ers don't have to pay the 416 fare when crossing into the 416 (not unless they transfer to the TTC anyway), especially considering how some YRT routes go as far south as Sheppard, and previously even as far south as Yorkdale (I still remember seeing a YRT Orion V there years ago). That's a huge chunk inside Toronto, almost as far as the furthest TTC routes go into York Region (Major Mackenzie). I get why YRT routes going to Finch or MiWay routes going to Kipling could be given a free pass, but not routes that go deeper into the city.

What am I missing here?

https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projects-and-programs/fare-integration/one-fare-program

On 5/14/2024 at 5:23 PM, D4-N173 said:

Miway is allowed to pick up passengers in Toronto now? 

I mean...if yes, that's good.

 

23 hours ago, Kumiko Oumae said:

Not just yet. This would require a provincial legislative amendments to the City of Toronto Act, 2006, to allow the 905 systems to pick up passengers within the city limits, such a move would draw the ire of ATU 113, the TTC's main union.  

Isn't it that they're allowed to drop off when heading into Toronto, and pick up going out from Toronto? There are MiWay dropoffs eastbound on Lake Shore by Forty Second or Forty First, and of course MiWay picks up at Long Branch loop with is 100% in Toronto. And MiWay has pickup stops along Dundas westbound from Kipling MegaSpa MegaTerminal.

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YRT, MiWay and Brampton leaving Toronto are allowed to pickup passengers in Toronto but can only drop them off outside of the Toronto boundary. Consequently, they are allowed dropoff passengers going into Toronto but cannot pickup any passengers heading into Toronto once they into the Toronto boundary.

GO Transit is excluded since they are a regional transit service and not local.

Now you can argue if your source/destination is on Steeles Ave or the Toronto/Mississauga border, TTC, and MiWay OR TTC and YRT both are a conflict with each other for your service as a passenger.

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21 minutes ago, Orion V said:

GO Transit is excluded since they are a regional transit service and not local.

The act allows provincial and federal services to operate so GO and VIA or whatever they want can operate. It just prevents mainly private entities deciding to run their own "transit" service and charge a fare. A few years ago, there was an attempted bus service between Humber Bay and downtown. It didn't last cause it was illegal under the act. This would be different than a charter service for a private event or tour.

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The 72 Pape like the 19 Bay and 63 Ossington has a new schedule that treats north of Line 2 and south of Line 2 as different "branches or routes". Like interlined routes but displaying the same sign. Buses would have to wait at the station till the departure time, unlike other routes such as 29 Dufferin. On the nextbus schedules, it is treated as a different branch. They have different direction tags on nextbus XMLs and each direction appear twice on transsee, one for the northern portion and other for southern portion.

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10 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

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The 72 Pape like the 19 Bay and 63 Ossington has a new schedule that treats north of Line 2 and south of Line 2 as different "branches or routes". Like interlined routes but displaying the same sign. Buses would have to wait at the station till the departure time, unlike other routes such as 29 Dufferin. On the nextbus schedules, it is treated as a different branch. They have different direction tags on nextbus XMLs and each direction appear twice on transsee, one for the northern portion and other for southern portion.

The 63 has been like that since the last board period.
 

It also sucks because Ossington station seems to be the new changeoff spot for drivers, rather than Eglinton West. It’s a pretty tight station with lots of buses passing through, and the 63 seemingly has a lot of extra time, so lots of times the buses sit in the 63 bay waiting for the next driver to arrive. At least at Eglinton West it had a bit more space for other buses to pass

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42 minutes ago, yrt1000 said:

The 63 has been like that since the last board period.
 

It also sucks because Ossington station seems to be the new changeoff spot for drivers, rather than Eglinton West. It’s a pretty tight station with lots of buses passing through, and the 63 seemingly has a lot of extra time, so lots of times the buses sit in the 63 bay waiting for the next driver to arrive. At least at Eglinton West it had a bit more space for other buses to pass

The 63 has that schedule since the extension to Roncy & King. They have it plenty of time for the construction area. It’s strange the 63B only runs for 10 min up to St Clair being giving another layover. It’s like a route shorter than the 126 Christie now.

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