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I'd assume so. Not sure how that looks wrong. No different than the 404 for example.

I can't imagine demand would require anything bigger. Could probably use such vehicles on many night routes.

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9 hours ago, transportationtoronto said:

It says it's a wheel trans Shuttle Bus. That doesn't mean it's operated by wheel trans vehicles does it? That wouldn't look right.

Lakeshore Garage is the Wheel-Trans garage. It's cheaper to right out of there with zero deadheading time. The 514 shuttle bus at Distillery ran with Wheel Trans buses before.

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Can't they simply call it 383 JONES BLUE NIGHT after its daytime counterpart since it partially uses the 83 routing? 

In that case, residents from a stretch of Leslie Street between Lake Shore and Queen are finally getting their 24 hour bus service despite the 301 QUEEN NIGHT and 325 DON MILLS NIGHT is just a 15 minute walk. The Tim Hortons on Leslie and Lake Shore is actually open 24 hours.

12 hours ago, transportationtoronto said:

It says it's a wheel trans Shuttle Bus. That doesn't mean it's operated by wheel trans vehicles does it? That wouldn't look right.

One conventional 40 foot standard sized bus with 30 minute headways on a short route will be enough to run the 383.

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1 hour ago, BYD said:

Can't they simply call it 383 JONES BLUE NIGHT after its daytime counterpart since it partially uses the 83 routing? 

In that case, residents from a stretch of Leslie Street between Lake Shore and Queen are finally getting their 24 hour bus service despite the 301 QUEEN NIGHT and 325 DON MILLS NIGHT is just a 15 minute walk. The Tim Hortons on Leslie and Lake Shore is actually open 24 hours.

One conventional 40 foot standard sized bus with 30 minute headways on a short route will be enough to run the 383.

It's not for residences nor does it follow the 83 routing (read the pdf in detail!) It just does a counterclockwise loop between Queen and Commissioners for operators to get to the garage while their parking lot is close. 30 minutes headway is too wide which interferes with operator scheduling. 

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Parking for operators at Lakeshore Garage will be closed until November 2019. This service provides a shuttle connecting with other night routes.
From Lake Shore Garage, E on Commissioners, N on Leslie, E on Lakeshore, N on Coxwell, W on Queen, S on Leslie, W on Commissioners

 

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On 4/21/2019 at 3:34 PM, nfitz said:

I'd assume so. Not sure how that looks wrong. No different than the 404 for example.

I can't imagine demand would require anything bigger. Could probably use such vehicles on many night routes.

its a birchmount route

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20 hours ago, Shemar said:

Odd ... for me it only opened at http not https - http://www.ttc.ca/PDF/Transit_Planning/Service Summary_2019-05-12.pdf

Doesn't seem fully updated. For example it shows no changes to the 92 Woodbine South schedules. Steve Munro's summary shows up to 5 vehicles in service on Saturdays and Sundays, and this only shows 2. The online schedule matches Steve's summary.

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The new 36 branches are awkward and confusing. 

internal 36B will be signed
EB 36 to Finch Stn 
WB 36A to Finch West Stn

internal 36A will be signed
EB 36A to Finch West Stn
WB 36B to Humberwood

They should swap the two internal branches because they are public listed on the website schedule

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1645 and 1666 were on 502 a week ago along with the 79xx buses i think they were deployed due to a communication issue??

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1 hour ago, Basket said:

1645 and 1666 were on 502 a week ago along with the 79xx buses i think they were deployed due to a communication issue??

It's probably because the streetcars aren't functioning properly at the moment.

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9 minutes ago, The Queensway said:

It's probably because the streetcars aren't functioning properly at the moment.

What does "not functioning properly" mean?

There is nothing irregular happening to the streetcar fleet right now, it's just going through an immense shortage that is not going to ease up any time soon.

the 7900 buses are being used on the streetcar shuttles because they're not equipped with VISION. They are instead using TETRA radios just like the streetcars are. What the 1600s are doing there I don't know. Maybe they've decided to use them in tandem with the 79s.

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1 hour ago, PCC Guy said:

What does "not functioning properly" mean?

There is nothing irregular happening to the streetcar fleet right now, it's just going through an immense shortage that is not going to ease up any time soon.

the 7900 buses are being used on the streetcar shuttles because they're not equipped with VISION. They are instead using TETRA radios just like the streetcars are. What the 1600s are doing there I don't know. Maybe they've decided to use them in tandem with the 79s.

Are the training buses TETRA?

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3 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

The new 36 branches are awkward and confusing. 

internal 36B will be signed
EB 36 to Finch Stn 
WB 36A to Finch West Stn

internal 36A will be signed
EB 36A to Finch West Stn
WB 36B to Humberwood

They should swap the two internal branches because they are public listed on the website schedule

It sounds like they are reconfiguring the 36 branches to the same format that the 85 has had for years. The general public does not care about "internal branches", just consistent signage. In the case of both the 36 and 85:

  • The unlettered exposure is for the furthest subway terminus, used mostly by the short flips and late-night service where service is interlined.
  • The A letter (which is always reserved for the 'main' branch) is for the near subway terminus, which gets used by all branches.
  • Other letters are for the further non-subway termini.

In terms of Finch West Station, this makes it simple no matter the time of day. The 36 always goes east to Finch Station; the B always goes to Humberwood; the D/F always go to Weston; and for other stops, the 36A always ends at Finch West Station. Late at night, they don't need to have a new separate branch for runs operating through Finch West Station; they can just use the signs of 36 to Finch Stn, and 36B to Humberwood.

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8 hours ago, Basket said:

Are the training buses TETRA?

I believe it was the hybrids not equipped with VISION that were repurposed for training, so they should be.

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50 minutes ago, PCC Guy said:

I believe it was the hybrids not equipped with VISION that were repurposed for training, so they should be.

So i assume that does make sense since it was a route running completly with TETRA

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On 5/11/2019 at 11:23 PM, Basket said:

Are the training buses TETRA?

Those training buses do not use tetra, otherwise they'd be used in service.

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On 5/11/2019 at 8:08 PM, Xtrazsteve said:

The new 36 branches are awkward and confusing. 

internal 36B will be signed
EB 36 to Finch Stn 
WB 36A to Finch West Stn

internal 36A will be signed
EB 36A to Finch West Stn
WB 36B to Humberwood

They should swap the two internal branches because they are public listed on the website schedule

In the Service Summary, this doesn't appear the case since it is more like the branches of the 85 SHEPPARD EAST. Just to make it for clarity sake:

- 36A Finch West Stn.-Humberwood
  36A to Finch West Stn
  36B to Humberwood

- 36B Finch Stn-Finch West Stn.
  36 to Finch Stn
  36A to Finch West Stn

- 36D Finch West Stn-Weston/Milvan
  36A to Finch West Stn
  36D to Weston Rd and Milvan

- 36F Finch West Stn-Weston/Milvan via Fenmar
  36A to Finch West Stn
  36F to Weston Rd and Milvan via Fenmar

- 36J Finch Stn-Humberwood
  36 to Finch Stn
  36B to Humberwood

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7 hours ago, Express Network said:

In the Service Summary, this doesn't appear the case since it is more like the branches of the 85 SHEPPARD EAST. Just to make it for clarity sake:

- 36A Finch West Stn.-Humberwood
  36A to Finch West Stn
  36B to Humberwood

- 36B Finch Stn-Finch West Stn.
  36 to Finch Stn
  36A to Finch West Stn

- 36D Finch West Stn-Weston/Milvan
  36A to Finch West Stn
  36D to Weston Rd and Milvan

- 36F Finch West Stn-Weston/Milvan via Fenmar
  36A to Finch West Stn
  36F to Weston Rd and Milvan via Fenmar

- 36J Finch Stn-Humberwood
  36 to Finch Stn
  36B to Humberwood

You totally missed the point, I was referring to the schedule on the website.

http://ttc.ca/Routes/36/Westbound.jsp which as the following listed reflecting the internal branches. If they simple swap the internal branch, they wouldn't have this problem

 

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Branch Legend

  • A36A FINCH WEST To HUMBERWOOD
  • B36B FINCH WEST To FINCH WEST STN
  • D36D FINCH WEST To WESTON RD and MILVAN
  • F36F FINCH WEST To WESTON RD and MILVAN via FENMAR
  • J36J FINCH WEST To HUMBERWOOD
  • N336 FINCH WEST BLUE NIGHT FINCH WEST To WOODBINE RACE TRACK

 

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The website does have multiple branches listed for a common direction such as 36D listed separately but will sign 36A but never swapped

 

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Branch Legend

  • A36A FINCH WEST To FINCH WEST STN
  • B36B FINCH WEST To FINCH STN
  • D36D FINCH WEST To FINCH WEST STN
  • J36J FINCH WEST To FINCH STN
  • N336 FINCH WEST BLUE NIGHT FINCH WEST To FINCH STATION

 

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On 5/14/2019 at 2:47 PM, 7749 said:

Those training buses do not use tetra, otherwise they'd be used in service.

They infact do have a radio in the bus

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17 hours ago, Ultimate said:

They infact do have a radio in the bus

I stand corrected.

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Service Changes on June 23, 2019

https://www.ttc.ca/Coupler/Editorial/Special_Features/index.jsp

Some major changes:

-The bus roadway at Lawrence Stn will be closed for six months

52/952 will use the platforms on the east side of the station.

124/162 will not enter the station and extend to Roe Loop (Avenue Rd & Old Orchard Gr).

-The intersection of Leslie St & Eglinton Ave E will be closed for two months. A temporary bus loop will be built.

51 will terminate at Leslie/Eglinton Loop. A new branch, 51C, will operate from Leslie/Eglinton Loop to Don Mills Rd & Lawrence Ave E during weekday evenings and weekend early mornings and evenings.

54 will have three branches added during weekdays (5am-9pm) and weekends (8am-7pm): 54C Leslie-Starspray, 54D Leslie-Orton Pk and 54G Eglinton Stn-Lawrence East Stn. At other times, 54A/B will use Don Mills Rd between Eglinton and Lawrence.

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