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11 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

If the SRT continues to fail with less reliable service, they'll need more buses. I think it's something to consider in the new 2-3 years. All people boarding the SRT would have to go through the bus terminal either way.

I was talking the bus traffic being a zoo, but it is better since they did the platform switching for some routes.

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Service summary is out:
http://www.ttc.ca/PDF/Transit_Planning/Service_Summary_2016_06_19.pdf

Seems to me, as anyone would noticed, 121 FORT YORK-ESPLANADE will be operated out of Birchmount Division. Others would also notice 126 CHRISTIE will also move (or return) to Wilson Division when interlined with the 33 FOREST HILL. Routes 24D VICTORIA PARK and 224 VICTORIA PARK NORTH will now be operated by York Region Transit's Southeast Division as part of the new 24 WOODBINE route.

Other changes:

  • 506/306 CARLTON (split with New Eglinton, Malvern (sans 306) and Mount Dennis - Keele Stn. to Church on weekdays, and the whole route on weekends)
  • 512 ST. CLAIR (split with Arrow Road, Mount Dennis and Wilson, entire route. Mount Dennis continues to operate 312 ST. CLAIR-JUNCTION BLUE NIGHT).

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15 minutes ago, 21 Brimley said:

Service summary is out:

http://www.ttc.ca/PDF/Transit_Planning/Service_Summary_2016_06_19.pdf

 

Seems to me, as anyone would noticed, 121 FORT YORK-ESPLANADE will be operated out of Birchmount Division. Others would also notice 126 CHRISTIE will also move (or return) to Wilson Division when interlined with the 33 FOREST HILL. Routes 24D VICTORIA PARK and 224 VICTORIA PARK NORTH will now be operated by York Region Transit's Southeast Division as part of the new 24 WOODBINE route.

 

Other changes:

  • 506/306 CARLTON (split with New Eglinton, Malvern (sans 306) and Mount Dennis - Keele Stn. to Church on weekdays, and the whole route on weekends)
  • 512 ST. CLAIR (split with Arrow Road, Mount Dennis and Wilson, entire route. Mount Dennis continues to operate 312 ST. CLAIR-JUNCTION BLUE NIGHT).

Other major changes (that you missed):

90 Vaughan will run into Bathrust Station instead of SCW

511 Bathurst will provide a one seat ride from Bathurst Station to the EX with buses operated by Queensway and Birchmount. The 509/511 looping route shuttle bus will discontinue.

11 Bayview will see the 11C branch replace the 11B branch during rush hour. 11B is discontinued.

28 Bayview South will receive full service operating at all times.

72 Pape is restored to pre-split service level. TTC is advertising that they are improving service. That's totally a BS lie as afternoon peak service is till worst than before (7' instead of 6'30"). 

 

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All the buses operating out of St Clair West Station will be running to Bathurst Station until the ramps are rebuilt, as well rewiring the overhead for pans. This will leave the Yonge station to be rewire this fall while its being upgraded..

Buses will replace the 512 streetcar until the fall (Dec?) with SCW-Gunns going back in once the work is completed for that area.

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9 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

Other major changes (that you missed):

90 Vaughan will run into Bathrust Station instead of SCW

511 Bathurst will provide a one seat ride from Bathurst Station to the EX with buses operated by Queensway and Birchmount. The 509/511 looping route shuttle bus will discontinue.

11 Bayview will see the 11C branch replace the 11B branch during rush hour. 11B is discontinued.

28 Bayview South will receive full service operating at all times.

72 Pape is restored to pre-split service level. TTC is advertising that they are improving service. That's totally a BS lie as afternoon peak service is till worst than before (7' instead of 6'30"). 

 

I also forgot to mention 8 BROADVIEW now runs 20 mins midday and peak periods with two buses, the first time this route increased service since the dreaded cuts that happened on February 18, 1996 when it was cut to only 30 minutes with one bus at all times. 

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16 hours ago, drum118 said:

All the buses operating out of St Clair West Station will be running to Bathurst Station until the ramps are rebuilt, as well rewiring the overhead for pans. This will leave the Yonge station to be rewire this fall while its being upgraded..

Buses will replace the 512 streetcar until the fall (Dec?) with SCW-Gunns going back in once the work is completed for that area.

By then hopefully most of the Arrow and Wilson buses got presto.

It's been a couple years since Arrow has operated a streetcar route since their bus repair backlog problems.

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On June 8, 2016 at 2:37 AM, drum118 said:

All the buses operating out of St Clair West Station will be running to Bathurst Station until the ramps are rebuilt, as well rewiring the overhead for pans. This will leave the Yonge station to be rewire this fall while its being upgraded..

Buses will replace the 512 streetcar until the fall (Dec?) with SCW-Gunns going back in once the work is completed for that area.

Only the 90 VAUGHAN is running to Bathurst Stn during the work at St Clair West Stn. NB 126 CHRISTIE will become a 33 FOREST HILL and run through to Eglinton. SB will reverse this. The 33 and 126 will serve stops on the street outside St Clair West Stn.  Also according to the construction notice the 512 St CLAIR buses will be using the bus loop and the 74 MT PLEASANT & 88 SOUTH LEASIDE will be loading on Pleasant Blvd. for the duration of the project.

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20 hours ago, Shaun said:

Maybe they should keep the Flyers for shuttle runs?

They aren't going to last. They are in pretty bad shape as it is.

 

Dan

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Q: is it wise to run 506 and 511 along with 94 on Harbord? What a zoo this afternoon. Would sending 511 on Bloor and/or 506 on Dundas work better?

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13 minutes ago, soo8513 said:

Q: is it wise to run 506 and 511 along with 94 on Harbord? What a zoo this afternoon. Would sending 511 on Bloor and/or 506 on Dundas work better?

The short answer is no or they'll done it already. By having the 511 on Harbord, stops are still served between there and Bloor.

 

They whole area is messed up cause of the closure.

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Service Changes for next board provided by Steve Munro:
https://swanboatsteve.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/20160731servicechanges.pdf

Among the changes:

  • Many routes are starting at 8:00 am or earlier.
  • The biggest surprise is the 300 BLOOR-DANFORTH will be loading west at Kipling Stn. using the 192 AIRPORT ROCKET (300A/B) and terminating east at Kennedy Stn. sharing the 20 CLIFFSIDE and 113 DANFORTH bays instead of looping via North Service, South Service, Transway, and Kennedy continuing east at Eglinton.
  • Also at Kennedy, 334 EGLINTON EAST will load west using the 34 bay and east using the 86E/198 bay as well as 343 KENNEDY sharing the 43 bay.
  • 509 HARBOURFRONT and 511 BATHURST will turn back at Fleet Loop with shuttle buses head to the CNE.
  • As a result of constructions of Chaplin and Forest Hill, 33 FOREST HILL's looping will run clockwise instead of counterclockwise north on Spadina, west on Eglinton, north on Bathurst, east on Roselawn, east and south on Chaplin, west on Eglinton and south on Spadina to route.
  • 514 CHERRY will have one run using one Flexity car. Beginning 2017, the route will use the LFLRVs.

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1 hour ago, 21 Brimley said:

The biggest surprise is the 300 BLOOR-DANFORTH will be loading west at Kipling Stn. using the 192 AIRPORT ROCKET (300A/B) and terminating east at Kennedy Stn. sharing the 20 CLIFFSIDE and 113 DANFORTH bays instead of looping via North Service, South Service, Transway, and Kennedy continuing east at Eglinton.

The service memo never said they will service the subway station at all times. It just said the bus bays are moved (during the times when night buses do serve the station). They should have moved them a long time ago to avoid confusion and people running on the platforms. The 300 starts showing up at Kipling around 1am when the subway and the 192 is still running.

The rest is your imagination. TTC won't open up the station terminal overnight for people to loiter around. No surprises, you just failed to read properly again.

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Changes out of Wilson division for the September board:

- 5 Avenue Road will be renumbered to the 13 Avenue Road. (Trick question: Can anybody guess why?)

- The 33 Forest Hill route will transfer to Mount Dennis, while the 106 York University will transfer to Arrow Road. 

Lastly, the 74 Mt. Pleasant will assume the main routing of the 103 Mt. Pleasant North to become the 'new' 74 Mt. Pleasant from St Clair Stn to Doncliffe. 

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44 minutes ago, bus_7246 said:

Changes out of Wilson division for the September board:

- 5 Avenue Road will be renumbered to the 13 Avenue Road. (Trick question: Can anybody guess why?)

- The 33 Forest Hill route will transfer to Mount Dennis, while the 106 York University will transfer to Arrow Road. 

Lastly, the 74 Mt. Pleasant will assume the main routing of the 103 Mt. Pleasant North to become the 'new' 74 Mt. Pleasant from St Clair Stn to Doncliffe. 

If I read the 74 MOUNT PLEASANT article on Transit Toronto, then there's your educated guess dated February 1999.

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Routes 103 MOUNT PLEASANT NORTH and 74 MOUNT PLEASANT were to be combined on this date, into a single route running from Davisville Station via Yonge, Merton, and Mt. Pleasant to Doncliffe Loop. This was not implemented due to the concerns of local residents.

 

They should have at least moved the 33 FOREST HILL when Mount Dennis opened in the first place. But I'm surprised 106 is heading back to Arrow Road.

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15 hours ago, bus_7246 said:

Changes out of Wilson division for the September board:

- 5 Avenue Road will be renumbered to the 13 Avenue Road. (Trick question: Can anybody guess why?)

Because 13 Rouge Hill and 13 Neville Park are never coming back.

I wonder when 6 Bay becomes 58 Bay or whatever.

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17 hours ago, 16 McCowan said:

If I read the 74 MOUNT PLEASANT article on Transit Toronto, then there's your educated guess dated February 1999.

That's a confirmed change. It just hasn't been released to the public yet.

2 hours ago, Ed T. said:

Because 13 Rouge Hill and 13 Neville Park are never coming back.

I wonder when 6 Bay becomes 58 Bay or whatever.

Let's assume it will become the 18 Bay haha ? Maybe we might even see the 19 Bathurst very far down the road. 

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If my mind is right the renumbering of the AVENUE ROAD bus from 5 to 13 is a welcome change because the TTC needs it for Line 5. 

So the final result would be 13A "Queen's Park" and 13B "Gerrard". No changes to the routing. 

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Earlier bus service Sundays on 80 routes also means earlier finish for 300/320 runs. People were standing on the streets waiting for their usual night bus that never came and the scary thing is it will take a few months for every one to catch on.....

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