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On 5/19/2017 at 1:53 PM, Shakey077 said:

SMART NEWS

Sierra Monrovia Area Regional Transit

May 19, 2017

 

Buses for Sale:

SMART is soliciting bids for the purchase of 255 used 2005/2006 Orion VII 40ft CNG buses. As SMART continues to modernize our fleet these buses have become surplus and are being retired. Bidding is open now through May 26, 2017. Winning bidder will be responsible to remove buses from SMART's property within 48 hours after purchase is completed. Prospective bidders can view the buses via appointment at SMART's storage facility (Division 3 site). 

Specs:

2005-2006 - Orion VII, 40ft CNG bus. Cummins ISL G engines (new in 2014), Allison B400R5 transmissions,Thermo King HVAC, IB Systems - Intelibus Telematics and control system , American Seating - Metropolitan seats (35 per). Destinations signs, farebox, and wheelchair Qpod restraints systems have been removed.

X-Ride Electification:

SMART has begun the process of fully electrifying our X-Ride BRT network. 25 - 60ft Battery Electric buses built by BYD of Lancaster CA are scheduled to enter service on June 1st. SMART is in the process of modifying our existing contract with Tri Star to convert orders for 300 -CNG 60ft buses into 300 electric 60ft buses. These would be delivered between 2019-2023.We are also in process of securing funding to cover the other 130 60ft buses that are used on the X-Ride routes. The plan calls for full electrification by 2025 or sooner. 

 

 

We will buy the rest of the buses. ALL OF THEM. Also we will buy more C40LFs too.

6 hours ago, Ra'akone said:

In Nu'u-Sara, there are presently two networks that are driverless, and one that's considering. What kinds of drive/system does Project Ares do? In Nu'u-Sara, you have the Aveolela Lines...the Aveolela Beach Line and the Laauolela Garden Route (which have some shared trackage). They are based on the Docklands Light Rail in London (indeed, the first trains in use were hand-me-downs from said network), and use under-running 3rd rail at 750 volts.  The so-called Medical Line, another elevated automatic rail line (it connects all the major hospitals in Nu'u-Sara), uses a variant of the main Vancouver Skytrain linear induction motor system, and a total voltage of 900 volts.

Just wondering if those systems (Aveolela started in the 2010s, the Medical Line wouldn't exist until the "Second System" of the mid 2020's) would benefit from Ares.

Edit: There's also the "Caterpillar" MagLev line, currently has a driver, but there are proposals to make it automatic. Don't think of it as a long distance MagLev, it's more like the short-lived M-Bahn, but better. And M-Bahn only insofar as purpose, it only uses wheels for when "switched off" and emergencies, otherwise it's 100% levitating. And it's called the Caterpillar because the current trains used there kind of resemble caterpillars.

It's a train-tram that can be on both on-street tram tracks and main line railways. With a single track and some passing lanes, it will be able to run up to 5 mins frequencies. It uses 750V DC pantographs.

 

 

 

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We have new plans for transit in Lonver. Here is a map.

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Blue = Central Line (under construction) - Subway, UTC 301

Red = Metro Line (under construction) - Subway, UTC 301

Cyan = Prospot Line (planned) - LRT, UTC L-1

Silver = Houston Line (under consideration) - BRT, 40ft buses in dedicated bus lanes

Warm Grey = Lock Line (under consideration) - BRT, 40ft buses in dedicated bus lanes

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FURBYVILLE TRANSIT TRANSIT VEHICLE ROSTER

 

Black marked units are due for retirement.

Green marked units are assigned to regular transit

Orange is marked for express

Purple is small community shuttle service in small towns located in the Beauchamp state.

1998 NABI 40-LFW (2001-2125)
2001 NFI D60LF (3735-3769)
2002 NFI D40LF (3770-3800)
2003 NFI D40LF (3801-3819)

2003 Orion 7.501 (2301-2329)  
2004 NFI D40LF (3820-3855
2005 Orion 7.501 (3856-3900) 
2006 NFI D40LF (3901-4012)
2006 NovaBus LFS (4013-4031)
2007 NFI D60LF (4032-4078)
2008 NovaBus LFS (4079-4100)
2008 NFI D40LF (4101-4121)
2009 NFI D60LF (4122-4174)
2009 NFI D40LFR (4175-4200)
2009 Orion VII NG (4201-4300)
2009 NovaBus LFS (4301-4319
2009 NFI D40LF (4320-4385)
2010 NFI D40LFR (4386-4409)
2011 NFI D60LFR (4410-4450)
2011 Orion 7.501 NG (4451-4509) 

2012 NFI D40LFR (4510-4514) 
2012 NFI XD40 (4514-4600)
2012 NovaBus LFSA (4601-4623) 
2012 NFI XD60 (4624-4679)
2013 NFI XD40 (4680-4720)

2013 NFI XD60 (4721-4742)

2013 NFI XDE60 (4743-4779)
2014 NFI XN40 (4780-4900)
2015 NFI XD40 (4901-4999)
2015 Tri-Star TS-40D (5001-5630)

2015 Tri-Star TS-30D (5631-5756)
2015 Tri-Star TS-40D (8601-8675)
2015 Tri-Star TS-40C (8676-8770)
2015 Tri-Star TS-45DE (8771-8886)
2015 Tri-Star TS-40C (8887)  
2015 NFI XN60 (5756-5765)
2016 NFI XD40 (5766-5800)

 

Route listing will be coming in the near future...

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SMART 2017 REVENUE VEHICLE ROSTER

Orange - contingency units

Blue - regular service units

Purple - X-Ride (BRT) units

Red - Rapid units

Green - Electric testing units

4 digit units purchased directly by SMART new / 5 digit units purchased second hand from other agencies used

3000-3099    2001    New Flyer    C40LF    C ISL G    AL B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    100 - contingency fleet
3100-3174    2002    New Flyer    C40LF    IBES-G nze    AL B400R6    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    75 - testing IBES-G NZE engines
3175-3249    2004    New Flyer    C40LF    DD 50G    Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    49 left for contingency fleet (3201-3249)
4000-4124    2005    NABI             60 BRT    CW ISL G     Al B500R5    60    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    125
3250-3299    2005    New Flyer    C40LF    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    50
26001-26066    2006    New Flyer    C40LF    CW ISL G    AL B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    52 - Ex Furbyville and MTC units
5255-5354    2007    Orion Bus Ind.    VII    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    100
4125-4249    2007    NABI    60 BRT    CW ISL G     Al B500R    60    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    125
3300-3449    2008    New Flyer       C40LFR    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    150
28001-28055    2008    New Flyer    C40LFR    CW ISL G    AL B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    55 - ex MTC & LC Transpo units
1800-1999    2008    NABI    40 LFW    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    200
3450-3599    2009    New Flyer    C40LFR    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    149 left (3462 lost to electrical fire)

4250-4399    2009    NABI    60 BRT    CW ISL G    Al B500R5    60    CNG    X-RIDE / CNG    149 left (4362 lost to accident)
29501-29662    2009    New Flyer    DE(C)40LFA    CW ISL G    Al B400R6    40    CNG    X-RIDE / CNG    162 - Ex Sierra Link units -converted from DE to CNG by CCW

5400-5799    2010    Orion Bus Ind.    VII NG    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    399 left (5402 lost to arson fire)
10501-10660    2010    New Flyer    C40LFR    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    160 - Ex GNT units

4400-4549    2010    NABI    60 BRT    CW ISL G    Al B500R5    60    CNG    X-RIDE / CNG    150
3600-3799    2011    New Flyer    C40LFR    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    200
4550-4599    2011    NABI    60 BRT    CW ISL G    Al B500R5    60    CNG    X-RIDE / CNG    50
6000-6199    2011    NABI    45C LFW    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    45    CNG    RAPID RIDE / CNG    200
5800-5899    2011    Orion Bus Ind.    VII NG    CW ISL G     AL B400R6    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    100 - 50 Ex CityLink units
3800-3999    2012    New Flyer    C40LFR    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    199 - 5 w/ IBES-G (3990-3994) no unit 3995 - 5 ex Ocean Point units

6200-6399    2012    NABI    45C LFW    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    45    CNG    RAPID RIDE / CNG    200
12501-12525    2012    NABI    40 LFW 3G    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    25 - ex GNT & New Stafford MTC units
7000-7199    2013    New Flyer    XN40    CW ISL G     Al B400R6    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    200
2300-2399    2013    New Flyer    XN60    CW ISL G     Al B400R6    60    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    100

4600-4899    2013    NABI    60BRT    CW ISL G     Al B500R6    60    CNG    RAPID RIDE / CNG    300
4900-4999    2013    NABI    60BRT    CW ISL G    Al B500R6    60    CNG    X-RIDE / CNG    100
1000-1249    2013    Gillig    40ft LF    CW ISL G     AL B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    250 
7200-7449    2014    New Flyer    XN40    CW ISL G    Al B400R6    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    250
2400-2649    2014    New Flyer    XN60    CW ISL G     Al B400R6    60    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    250

5900-5999    2014    NABI    42 BRT    CW ISL G     Al B400R6    42    CNG    X-RIDE / CNG    100 - Ex U Bus units
7450-7799    2015    New Flyer    XN 40    CW ISL G     Al B400R6    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    350
2650-2849    2015    New Flyer    XN 60    CW ISL G     Al B400R6    60    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    200

6500-6749    2015    Tri Star    TS 45C    CW ISL G     AL B400R6    45    CNG    RAPID RIDE / CNG    250
9000-9497    2015    Tri Star    TS 60C    CW ISL G    AL B500R6    60    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    498
9498-9499    2015    Tri Star    TS 65C    CW ISL G    AL B500R6    65    CNG    X-RIDE / CNG    2 - X-Ride testing 65ft buses
7800-7999    2015    New Flyer    XN 40    CW ISL G     Al B400R6    40    CNG    SMART RIDE /CNG    200
6750-6999    2015    Tri Star    TS 45C    CW ISL G     AL B400R6    45    CNG    RAPID RIDE / CNG    250
1250-1374    2015    Gillig    40 ft LF    CW ISL G     Al B400R5    40    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    125
1551-1565    2015    Tri Star    TS 40E    IB EV E    IB EV E    40    BE    SMART E RIDE    15 - testing battery electric technology - Used on GSU Shuttle
1576-1580    2016    Tri Star    TS 40HE    IB H-EV E    IB EV E    40    HE    SMART E RIDE    5 - testing Hydrogen technology - Used on GSU Shuttle
2850-2999    2016    New Flyer    XN 60    CW ISL G     Al B400R6    60    CNG    SMART RIDE / CNG    150
6400-6499    2016    Tri Star    TS 45C    CW ISL G    AL B400R6    45    CNG    X-RIDE / CNG    100
1600-1664    2016/17    Tri Star    TS 40E    IB EV E    IB EV E    40    BE    SMART E RIDE    65 - Battery Electric testing in regular service
1521-1545    2016/17    BYD    Lancaster    E    battery    60    BE    X-RIDE / E    25 - X-Ride electrification plan - phase 1

 

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LVTA and LVTA-C FLEET 2017-07

16001-16023  2016  NEW FLYER  D60LFR  C ISM  ALB500R  60ft  DIESEL  LVTA  23

16101-16112  2016  NEW FLYER  D40LFR  C ISL  ALB400R  40ft  DIESEL  LVTA  12

16901-16902  2016  LVTA-TD  HE DL ARTIC PROTOTYPE  PRO-HE  PRO-HE-T  60ft HYDROELECTRIC  LVTA  2

17001-17021  2017  TRI STAR  TS60C  OTC-TN280  MT NBT01-8R  60ft  CNG  LVTA  21

17101-17178  2017  TRI STAR  TS 40 HYBRID  REV HE  40ft  DIESEL HYBRID  LVTA  178

17201-17335  2017  TRI STAR  ELEGANCE  DOUBLE DECK  BATTERYELECTRIC  LVTA  135

17401-17445  2017  UTC  XTD40  CISL9 280hp  UTC T-1400  DIESEL  LVTA  45

17501-17510  2017  UTC  XTD60  CISL9 330hp  ZF EcoLife 6AP1700B LVTA  10

1701-1705  2004  NEW FLYER  C40LF  CW ISL G 280hp  ZF EcoLife 6AP1400B  LVTA  5

1706-1717  2004 NEW FLYER  C40LF  CW ISL G 280hp  ZF EcoLife 6AP1400B  LVTA  12

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It's been sometime. I have a lot of assorted files related to my various fleets that I've worked on at various times and did all sorts of research. So far trolleybuses and my railway operations have received the bulk of my time. 

Never the less, I was inspired recently to put down something a little more concrete for the streetcar operations.

While I have worked in both CLRV's and Kawasaki cars to the fleet, from my brief research, it seems the K cars have held up better than the CLRV's. Apparently the K cars actually have stainless steel in their design. As a result, I'm leaning towards replacing the CLRV's with the Skoda's and not even having a replacement for the K cars yet. 

I also plan to re-work the trolleycoach roster a bit. In particular, a little while ago I learned about bit more about the Wellington rebuild of their trolleybuses with BBC propulsion into new bodies. Turns out they used electronic equipment from a Electra, a Brazilian company, to replace the outdated BBC electrics, while rebuilding the BBC motor and new poles from China, rather than more expensive European pole systems. This link is a very good read: http://tdu.to/a34430/TT242 pages for LRPPro.pdf

 I'm also intrigued by these guys out of Brazil: http://old.weg.net/ga/Media-Center/Actualites/Produits-et-Solutions/Electric-bus-technology

Orillia Streetcar Concept:
Initial fleets will be wood cars. More than likely this will include cars found on the Praries, in particular, Winnipeg was the earliest system, so, look to them. 
1920's- New purchases will be steel cars. ERR OCC 80 series cars quite possible, although perhaps longer cars? Generally will be Peter Witt type cars however.
1939- Initial purchases of PCC's. Like TTC's will be built by St. Louis and CCF.
Early 1940's- PCC purchases continue of St. Louis/ CCF air electric cars, numbers not generally high due to WWII.
1946- First all electric cars purchased, built with Pullman bodies, assembled locally by Northwest Transportation. SE and DE cars purchased. Quite possibly some interburn style cars.
1947- Back to CCF/ St. Louis for all electrics. Large order with WWII well passed, however, some of these cars would have a short service life. Subway construction replaced some streetcars lines, trolleybuses and motorbuses chipped away, as did the private car. A number of cars stripped and rebuilt as elevated cars similar to other cars already in operation into 1957-59. The 1947 order was choosen as they had the most in common with the existing elevated cars.
1949- CCF/ St. Louis all electric with MU equipment and left hand doors, for tunnel operations.
1951- Northwest Transportation/ Pullman supply last set of cars. Based on design for Boston (picture window) with a set of cars with MU couplers and left hand doors, and a set of standard cars.
1955- Purchase surplus BCH PCC fleet.
1955-1970s- Status quo, car fleet reduced due to accidents, rapid transit expansion and some bus replacements. Generally speaking, air electric cars retired while all electric cars retained.
1960/70s- Most systems still running streetcars were looking towards new vehicles. Orillia looking toward LRT concept to replace streetcars. Some talk of building tunnels to remove streetcars from City streets, and eliminate the remainder of streetcar operations.
1970- 2 new LRV's purchased from Duewag with Siemens equipment for evaluation
1972- 2 systems planned, 1 to re-route streetcars into tunnels through busier sections and operate with larger cars/ mu trains and the other a brand new system that would stretch cheaper LRT into the suburbs. LRT covered seperately.
1974- Cars from Duewag based upon Frankfurt P series cars
1975- Plans start scaling back due to cost cutting, streetcar tunnels reduced and instead looking towards new conventional streetcars to run on the surface system
1976- Primary 75 CLRV's ordered after tender
1980s- Due to cost, considered rebuilding of PCC fleet, investigated with TTC and Pittsburgh at various times
1981- Seperate tenders won by Kawasaki for subway cars and streetcars, based upon SEPTA design, equipped with Westinghouse electics, 1460 motors, and chopper control
1985- Tender won by UTDC for 30 articulated surface cars
1988- Rebuilding of PCC cars starts to upgrade balance of remain fleet
2000s- Renewal under investigation for CLRV fleet, however with the economy looking up and the timelines for new equipment types rebuilding being investigated.
2005- Rebuild of some stored PCC's to PCC-II configuration by NWT/ Vossloh Kiepe
In all likelihood, initial newer equipment will be something along the lines of the Skoda 10T. Exact strategy for conversion from pole to pantograph undetermined.
 

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SMRT:

  • Two buses collided with each other. #6051, a TriStar TS40D and #7035, a New Flyer XD60 collided to each other head on. #6051 was out of service so there were no passengers, #7035 was in revenue service and passengers received minor injuries, nothing serious or fatal. The driver of #6051 was rushed to hospital in serious condition, we hope that he gets well. The driver of #7035 was also injured, but were not severe. The driver of #6051 will be under temporary suspension as he recovers and while the cause is investigated. So far, it looks like the driver of #6051 might be the one to blame.
    • #6051 has been pulled from service. We won't be repairing it yet as we will debate on it's fate as it sustained serious damages to the front.
    • #7035 also was pulled from service. The windshield and sign was damaged but will be sent to New Flyer for repairs.
  • #6001, a New Flyer XD40 was involved in an accident about a few months ago. It's fate has been decided. It will be retired officially. The bus won't be scrapped however, it will remain on property for spare parts.

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Just now, CanadianTransitTycoon said:

SMRT:

  • Two buses collided with each other. #6051, a TriStar TS40D and #7035, a New Flyer XD60 collided to each other head on. #6051 was out of service so there were no passengers, #7035 was in revenue service and passengers received minor injuries, nothing serious or fatal. The driver of #6051 was rushed to hospital in serious condition, we hope that he gets well. The driver of #7035 was also injured, but were not severe. The driver of #6051 will be under temporary suspension as he recovers and while the cause is investigated. So far, it looks like the driver of #6051 might be the one to blame.
    • #6051 has been pulled from service. We won't be repairing it yet as we will debate on it's fate as it sustained serious damages to the front.
    • #7035 also was pulled from service. The windshield and sign was damaged but will be sent to New Flyer for repairs.
  • #6001, a New Flyer XD40 was involved in an accident about a few months ago. It's fate has been decided. It will be retired officially. The bus won't be scrapped however, it will remain on property for spare parts.

Tri Star can repair 6051 for you. The structure is very easy to repair being composite material. We can have it looked at by staff from the Sunnyshore plant.

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ROUTE LISTING FOR FURBYVILLE'S INNER CITY SERVICE

  • ROUTE 1 AIRPORT EXPRESS
  • ROUTE 1 DOWNTOWN
  • ROUTE 1 EASTWOOD PLAZA
  • ROUTE 1 TOWER HEIGHTS
  • ROUTE 1 REDFIRE BAY
  • ROUTE 2 LAKEWOOD HEIGHTS
  • ROUTE 2 WAYSIDE DRIVE
  • ROUTE 2 MOOSE CREEK 
  • ROUTE 2 ORANGEVILLE TOWER
  • ROUTE 2 CHRYSLER STADIUM
  • ROUTE 2 SANDY SHORES 
  • ROUTE 2 BLUE MOUNTAIN ESTATES
  • ROUTE 2 SOUTHLAND 
  • ROUTE 2 SUNSHINE ALLEY
  • ROUTE 3 DOWNTOWN VIA COLLINGWOOD HIGH SCHOOL
  • ROUTE 3 JERSEY SHORE
  • ROUTE 3 GRAPESEED FIELDS
  • ROUTE 3 BLUEBERRY TREE 
  • ROUTE 3 CHINATOWN 
  • ROUTE 3 LITTLE ITALY
  • ROUTE 3 CITY HALL
  • ROUTE 4 MILTON HILL
  • ROUTE 4 ART GALLERY OF DOWNTOWN
  • ROUTE 4 LAKEWOOD HEIGHTS SHOPPING CENTRE
  • ROUTE 4 UNIVERSITY 
  • ROUTE 4 RANGER FIELDS
  • ROUTE 4 NORFOLK SOUTHERN PARK
  • ROUTE 5 UTOPIA 
  • ROUTE 5 FURBYVILLE GOLF COURSE
  • ROUTE 5 PARK PLACE 
  • ROUTE 5 BLUE MOUNTAIN 

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PRESS RELEASE

LVTA is buying up a factory in Tianjin, China to give us a price advantage. The facility will be 190,000 sq. ft and will build the XTD40 and XTD60. A neighbouring plant may be bought up.

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STÎ UPDATE... kinda

A few of our buses (between 2011 and today) have been wrapped for the upcoming Magic: the Gathering set, Hour of Devastation.

That's it.

Oli

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On 6/11/2017 at 5:36 PM, neoartic7101 said:

Awesome, you do play.

 

I did find out the problem was actually.... I was running 2500 assets and 68 mods for a realistic looking East coast US/West Europe hybrid city. I needed more RAM, and it actually fixed it. One of the biggest reasons was the pop balance mod, takes up a lot for a fast population growth. But since I got more RAM, the game has been running a lot more smooth. 

And Shakey, I found the perfect map for Sierra Monrovia Valley, I thought about using it and actually create the city. 

 

Biggest problem? Not enough American buses. They have the D40LF, D60LF, XD40 and XD60, but they are too small in comparison to the XD40 & XD60 in NYCMTA colors (which I don't want). 

But the European buses kinda grew on me, love their Volvo 7900 on the game. When I get the chance, I'll show screenshots. 

If you are looking for more North American buses, try JSF's workshop for some TTC ones or my friend Ninjanoobslayer. He just put out a bunch of gillig stuff.

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I have to find where I put my LCMTA Bus Roster so I can get the exact numbers, but we'll have a joint announcement with New Flyer about new buses soon.

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