DE40LFR Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 There has been a New Flyer test bus of some sort on the street this week. I should have got the camera phone out to snap a picture. Didn't get a very good look either, other than it's done up in the same paint scheme as the Xcelsior demos, with the same windows, but it has a LFR front end and roofline, plus a bare sheet metal box on the roof toward the rear. Another driver was telling me he thought it looked shorter as well, so possibly a 35 foot bus. I saw that one yesterday!!! So, it is an Xcelsior!!! Did it go to Winnipeg Transit to try out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusRider Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Cool find! That is the 2008 demo Xcelsior.The thing in the background I think is an den Oudsten product (New Flyer's former parent company in Germany) This? http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=winnipeg&...038581&z=15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted December 13, 2009 Board Admin Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 This?http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=winnipeg&...038581&z=15 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid0920 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 When I click the link it leeds me to google maps, possibly because I'm on my blackberry. Can someone post the pictures please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Aquarius Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbil Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Here is a nicer photo of the same model of bus (the white one) http://www.e-traction.com/images/Fokker-de...%20%2812%29.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS_04 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Yes. Much more interesting to me than the Xcelsior... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiExpress Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Wonder if NFI used that bus as the basis for the D40LFR caps - the end does show a striking similarity with the curves and headlight design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted December 13, 2009 Board Admin Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Â Â Wonder if NFI used that bus as the basis for the D40LFR caps - the end does show a striking similarity with the curves and headlight design.I've wondered that myself actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusRider Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Wonder if NFI used that bus as the basis for the D40LFR caps - the end does show a striking similarity with the curves and headlight design. Probably did, It looks very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2044 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 That's the Den Oudsten X97. There's a thread about it here somewhere. I had posted a link with some information on it. It used composite materials which could have aided in designing the Invero or Xcelsior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS_04 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 That's the Den Oudsten X97. There's a thread about it here somewhere. I had posted a link with some information on it.It used composite materials which could have aided in designing the Invero or Xcelsior. Veerkamp says it's an X98: http://www.johnveerkamp.com/DenOudsten/index-DenOudsten.html I remember reading a prototype LF bus was sold during Den Oudsten's bankruptcy. I'm not too surprised that NF bought it, especially if it played a part in product development. From the looks of it, the body structure (sans caps) resembles an Invero... Found this: "Den Oudsten Bussen created the RET X-98 which was to enter revenue service in Rotterdam, but aside from stirring momentary interest at a few shows, the modular vehicle could not save the company from bankruptcy. The Fokker-Stork body technology was licensed to APT Systems in Helmond NL which was incorporated into the Phileas, which has achieved little success. The license for the Fokker Stork body technology is held in North America by New Flyer but this again has achieved no commercial success." http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090230729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2044 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Sorry that was a typo on my part (was using an iPod). It is indeed the X98, and that was the link I mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seashore_518203 Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 The blue Xcelsior demo was spotted today in the truck wash located at Casablanca Blvd. and the QEW, just outside of Stoney Creek, ON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted May 20, 2010 Board Admin Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 There's also an Xcelsior demo here in Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin ORION Posted May 20, 2010 Root Admin Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 The blue Xcelsior demo was spotted today in the truck wash located at Casablanca Blvd. and the QEW, just outside of Stoney Creek, ON. Aparently it was at Niagara Transit this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Maybe it's coming to Hamilton in a GTA tour. If so, I'll be there with bells on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVTArider Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 There will be one here operating on various routes during the first two weeks of June. http://www2.mvta.com/New_Flyer_Xcelsior_Bu...VTA_Routes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ber Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 wow...they cared to actually publicly announce a demonstration run .... never seen that b4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevep Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Xcelsior demo bus in Red Deer today. Unfortunately I did not see it in person, but one of my co-workers got some photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Xcelsior demo bus in Red Deer today. Unfortunately I did not see it in person, but one of my co-workers got some photos. I suppose it headed to Calgary after it's visit to Red Deer Transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE40LFR Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 So, I'm having difficulty understanding which demonstration unit is which: from wiki: This is the first one that was in the Transit Expo. Do we know about it's whereabouts? Notice that this one has an added stripe in the mid section of the bus This would be the second one that has demonstrated in Vancouver and various other places across the country. Do we also know where this one is? SteveP's pictures suggest that it is in Red Deer by it not having a stripe. This one I would assume to be the third and most recent one judging by it having a black bumper and a rear window. This one has last been seen in Winnipeg doing test runs, but hasn't been seen in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Engineer Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 So, I'm having difficulty understanding which demonstration unit is which:from wiki: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/images/2/2b/New_Flyer_Industries_Xcelsior_demo-a.jpg This is the first one that was in the Transit Expo. Do we know about it's whereabouts? Notice that this one has an added stripe in the mid section of the bus http://cptdb.ca/wiki/images/d/de/New_Flyer_Industries_Xcelsior_demo-c.jpg This would be the second one that has demonstrated in Vancouver and various other places across the country. Do we also know where this one is? SteveP's pictures suggest that it is in Red Deer by it not having a stripe. This one I would assume to be the third and most recent one judging by it having a black bumper and a rear window. This one has last been seen in Winnipeg doing test runs, but hasn't been seen in a few weeks. I personally believe that either of the first two went for altoona testing, which, as you probably know, is necessary in order for NFI to sell that model. The last time I read in the Winnipeg thread, the third one was being used for ISL9 certification purposes. NFI recently became the first manufacturer to become fully certified on the ISL9 and its 2010 components according to their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted May 28, 2010 Board Admin Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 So, I'm having difficulty understanding which demonstration unit is which:from wiki: This is the first one that was in the Transit Expo. Do we know about it's whereabouts? Notice that this one has an added stripe in the mid section of the bus This would be the second one that has demonstrated in Vancouver and various other places across the country. Do we also know where this one is? SteveP's pictures suggest that it is in Red Deer by it not having a stripe. This one I would assume to be the third and most recent one judging by it having a black bumper and a rear window. This one has last been seen in Winnipeg doing test runs, but hasn't been seen in a few weeks. The one in the west here that has visited Edmonton and Red Deer has the number in the windshield SR1321. This could be that one I have a picture of, or a totally new unit. The one in Winnipeg you linked with the black bumper and rear window is apparently SR1420. I am not sure which one is out in the Ontario area - anyone have pictures? This could be the one with the stripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevep Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 The mirror arms are different too in Ashton's picture and that is the one that was in Red Deer. I have some better pics too that I'll post separately. Here are some better pictures of the Xcelsior when it was in Red Deer on May 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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