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10 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

2843? Which route? I haven't seen 2843 in service in a long time.

Speaking of flipdots, I rode 2848 and 2859 recently, both seemed to be in tip-top shape. 2209 is still OOS, but reportedly they are fixing it. Since the first order of Prevosts is 29 buses, and there are 32 (33?) flipdots, my bet is the three that will stay will be 2209, either 2848, 2858, or 2859 (all three of these run rather frequently), and one 29xx (possibly 2905 or 2907, those two run the most)

Are all the first batch of Prevost's going to the bus company or will some go to transit? If all going to bus company then they can easily take all the flip dots out. 7 flip dots are remaining in transit which are all at Yukon in SI. 

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1 minute ago, Len90 said:

Are all the first batch of Prevost's going to the bus company or will some go to transit? If all going to bus company then they can easily take all the flip dots out. 7 flip dots are remaining in transit which are all at Yukon in SI. 

The first batch (just over 20 coaches) will be going to MTAB.

The NYCT batch will be delivered between Fall 2020 and Spring 2021.

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Here's something to think about, by the way:

If 2020 Prevosts take over the D4500CLs at CH, then send the D4500CLs to CA (because then, CA's fleet would be the same mechanically), and send the 2015 Prevosts to one of the following places:

  • MV to run on the M98, and officially make the M98 an express route (with some minor routing changes)
  • UP to supplement the 2012 Prevosts
  • MQ to be able to have Airport Express buses from Manhattan

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31 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

Here's something to think about, by the way:

If 2020 Prevosts take over the D4500CLs at CH, then send the D4500CLs to CA (because then, CA's fleet would be the same mechanically), and send the 2015 Prevosts to one of the following places:

  • MV to run on the M98, and officially make the M98 an express route (with some minor routing changes)
  • UP to supplement the 2012 Prevosts
  • MQ to be able to have Airport Express buses from Manhattan

They're supposed to retire Charleston's D4500CLs.

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I feel it;'s worth noting that the batches are probably moot at this point, they would have just blended together into a seamless nonstop stream of Prevosts being delivered, and the schedule could very easily be thrown off. I probably shouldnt have bothered putting them up anyway.

I'm not sure what's going on with the 2001-02 MCI retirement micromanaging but that's not how they retire buses. If there is a mechanically sound 2001-02 and a 2005-2007 that's a shop queen who just recently shit the bed, the 05-07 is going before the 01-02.

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14 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

hey're supposed to retire Charleston's D4500CLs.

oh ok.

 

14 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

I'm not sure what's going on with the 2001-02 MCI retirement micromanaging but that's not how they retire buses. If there is a mechanically sound 2001-02 and a 2005-2007 that's a shop queen who just recently shit the bed, the 05-07 is going before the 01-02.

ah so flipdots could stay around for a while?

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3 hours ago, Jova42R said:

ah so flipdots could stay around for a while

If by a while you mean that they won't be retired immediately, then that's probable. But they'll still be retired fairly soon.

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18 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

If by a while you mean that they won't be retired immediately, then that's probable. But they'll still be retired fairly soon.

Ok.

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About the future electric bus order:

Recently, I was out fanning proterras, and I met a dispatcher and decided to ask about new buses.

The MTA will get:

  • Proterra ZX5s
  • New Flyer XE40s
  • BYD K9M
    • may be a test fleet
  • Nova LFSe+
    • unclear, may be a single test bus

In addition, the MTA may get BYD K11Ms, because one was ghosting routes in the Bronx, according to this dispatcher.

According to him, UP is also testing a 2020 MCI D4500CT (diesel). It is as of yet unnumbered and untrackable, although it will probably be numbered either 0024 or somewhere in the 005x series. This could mean D4500CTHs in the future, although I'm not sure.

He also said that when/if the MTA gets electric coaches, they will PROBABLY be MCI and/or VanHool.

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