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3 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

They’re starting to unwrap the LGA Link XD40s. 7453 is back to blue + white..

So only 6274 for LGA link for XD60s?

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16 hours ago, Jova42R said:

So only 6274 for LGA link for XD60s?

Possibly? You're correct that 6274 is the only XD60 confirmed to have LGA Link colors. Judging how the entire q70+ is artic right now though (6274, 6277, 6279, 6281, 6286) and all the lga link xd40s are inside, I'd wager to say there's a decent chance that they got to a few more XD60s... That said until someone goes out there with a camera we'll never know. If i feel up to it, i'll make the 15 minute walk to the q70 to see what's up and report back...

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6275-6286 appear to still be in blue/yellow....Q70 is/was half and half rigid and articulated, B1 still has a couple rigid stragglers as well. First day of complete articulation for both so hiccups are expected i guess.

For those that care about routings and such, Q70+s returning from the airport do not loop around the 74th street bus terminal and head down Roosevelt anymore. New routings goes down  75th street to woodside avenue. They seem to dump and layover at 61st Street and Woodside Ave. Smart move considering how many feet of space would be taken up by all those 53s (and theoretical 70s) all dumping and laying over on 61st Street and Roosevelt. It was busy enough when the Q70 was all rigids.

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21 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

6275-6286 appear to still be in blue/yellow....Q70 is/was half and half rigid and articulated, B1 still has a couple rigid stragglers as well. First day of complete articulation for both so hiccups are expected i guess.

For those that care about routings and such, Q70+s returning from the airport do not loop around the 74th street bus terminal and head down Roosevelt anymore. New routings goes down  75th street to woodside avenue. They seem to dump and layover at 61st Street and Woodside Ave. Smart move considering how many feet of space would be taken up by all those 53s (and theoretical 70s) all dumping and laying over on 61st Street and Roosevelt. It was busy enough when the Q70 was all rigids.

The B1 being chosen for articulation just seems so out of left field for me tbh. I thought the next lines for that would be the B63 and B15 (and maybe the B41 and B46 too. I've been saying that the B41 should have been an artic route since at least 2001. I remember seeing a New Flyer D60HF testing on that line back around then. Never saw that again.) Anyway 2020 Prevost X3-45 #1300 should be on it's way to Staten Island very should as it was last seen in NJ about a week ago. Hopefully the LFS hybrid and XDE40s start arriving soon in the fall or late summer. Many of the remaining 2005 Orion 7.501 OG hybrids are in rough shape and need to be retired (or repainted and I doubt they will). I never understood why most of those #6600's from Manhattan got retired last year? They should have sent those to Brooklyn to replace the #6400s and #6500s (and their #6600s), cause #6631-6689 were in MUCH better shape.

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45 minutes ago, Chris.A said:

2020 Prevost X3-45 #1300 should be on it's way to Staten Island

I would assume queens or bx before SI. the Bus Co ones are arriving before transit's so it would make a lot more sense for them to let the bus co depots get their hands all over them first.

45 minutes ago, Chris.A said:

The B1 being chosen for articulation just seems so out of left field for me tbh. I thought the next lines for that would be the B63 and B15 (and maybe the B41 and B46 too. I've been saying that the B41 should have been an artic route since at least 2001.

B41 would make a lot of sense but then again they're is incredibly skilled at mismanaging that route. The only reason the B15 isn't articulated by now is b/c ENY still isn't ready for artics but in a perfect world, it would have been artic by now. As far as the B63 goes, IIRC they were floating running artics on the B63 and/or B68 in addition to the B35 in the future, but that discussion has fizzled out for now. B46 technically has the 46+ running artic, but i don't know how screwed or not the local version is with the SBS variant, so I won't comment on that...

45 minutes ago, Chris.A said:

. I never understood why most of those #6600's from Manhattan got retired last year?

A bunch of NGs were displaced by LFS being delivered and they had to go somewhere. MV was a logical choice because they have had a massive fleet of aging hybrids that racked up really high mileage.

45 minutes ago, Chris.A said:

They should have sent those to Brooklyn to replace the #6400s and #6500s (and their #6600s), cause #6631-6689 were in MUCH better shape.

Well,, the MV ones weren't really that great either. LaGuardia didn't like the ones they received, they took a while to get prepared for service, and most didn't go out often and didn't stay at the depot for long. 6643 has been an exception lasting that long but even so it's not an amazing bus, both before and after corona; I'm surprised it lasted this long frankly, last summer IIRC I was riding with a friend who had 6643 all evening and he remarked that it and the rest of the 6600s probably wouldn't make it to 2020 (Yet, here were are lol). FWIW 6643 was one of the first LGA 2005s to come back from coronavirus but it road called nearly 2 weeks ago and hasn't moved an inch since it was brought back to the depot. Perhaps it's the end of the line for 6643 with the LGA Link XD40s slowly being unwrapped, but who knows, LGA's pretty unpredictable.

 

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Whlie we're on the topic of dead LGA 2005s, 6539 has been out for nearly as long as 6643 has been.

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1 hour ago, Orion6025 said:

I would assume queens or bx before SI. the Bus Co ones are arriving before transit's so it would make a lot more sense for them to let the bus co depots get their hands all over them first.

B41 would make a lot of sense but then again they're is incredibly skilled at mismanaging that route. The only reason the B15 isn't articulated by now is b/c ENY still isn't ready for artics but in a perfect world, it would have been artic by now. As far as the B63 goes, IIRC they were floating running artics on the B63 and/or B68 in addition to the B35 in the future, but that discussion has fizzled out for now. B46 technically has the 46+ running artic, but i don't know how screwed or not the local version is with the SBS variant, so I won't comment on that...

A bunch of NGs were displaced by LFS being delivered and they had to go somewhere. MV was a logical choice because they have had a massive fleet of aging hybrids that racked up really high mileage.

Well,, the MV ones weren't really that great either. LaGuardia didn't like the ones they received, they took a while to get prepared for service, and most didn't go out often and didn't stay at the depot for long. 6643 has been an exception lasting that long but even so it's not an amazing bus, both before and after corona; I'm surprised it lasted this long frankly, last summer IIRC I was riding with a friend who had 6643 all evening and he remarked that it and the rest of the 6600s probably wouldn't make it to 2020 (Yet, here were are lol). FWIW 6643 was one of the first LGA 2005s to come back from coronavirus but it road called nearly 2 weeks ago and hasn't moved an inch since it was brought back to the depot. Perhaps it's the end of the line for 6643 with the LGA Link XD40s slowly being unwrapped, but who knows, LGA's pretty unpredictable.

 

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Whlie we're on the topic of dead LGA 2005s, 6539 has been out for nearly as long as 6643 has been.

Well, Fresh Ponds had keep most of the #6490-6624 batch since delivery in early '05 (although many has since been either transferred elsewhere or retired), and during those last 14-15 years, these buses must of had racked up the miles too. The lines like the B26, B38, B52 and B54 among others are not exactly short. Besides, LGA shouldn't be complaining since until about  year ago, they were the last depot in the system to be using 1996 Novabus RTS 06's (and among the last depots to have been using RTS's in general, those 2005-2006 Orion VII OG hybrids are like night and day compared to those old rigs even though they were great buses too, don't get me wrong).

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On 6/27/2020 at 6:13 PM, Orion6025 said:

They’re starting to unwrap the LGA Link XD40s. 7453 is back to blue + white..

Also got word that another 2015-2016 LFS got into a major accident. #8421 is supposedly a write-off, but I have yet to see it.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Chris.A said:

. The lines like the B26, B38, B52 and B54 among others are not exactly short

Well, yes, but relative to MV, FP still has shortrer routes on the whole. I did some math just now to probe into this and this is what i got - 

Using *unofficial* route lengths that I pulled from google my maps tracings of routes i did a year or two ago, each depot's route lengths (ONE WAY) are as follows:

MV:

M2 - 9.8

M3 - 10.8

M4 - 10.58 (Using original routing to 32 street, due to that routing being used for the majority of the 2005 Orion's lives)

M5 - 12.1 (Pre-M55, chosen due to that routing being used for the majority of the 2005 Orion's lives)

M10 - 5.20

M11 - 7.68

M96 - 2.07

M98 - 7.53 (Omitted the original version to 34 street)

M104 - 5.57 (Omitted the original 42 street c-town portion)

M106 - 2.67

M116 - 2.93

AVG - 7.12

FP:

B7 - 8.06

B13 - 8.5

B20  - 7.32

B26 - 6.59

B38  -  6.06

B52 - 5.50

B54 - 4.42

Q54 - 9.94

Q55 - 4.44

Q58 - 8.596

AVG - 6.943

Now that average difference isn't that massive, but multiplied over years, it adds up.

Granted,  based on the #s mileage probably isn't the only  thing at play. Past maintenance may have something to do with it as well, as well as overuse and its implications (Manhattanville frequent shortage problems before they started getting NGs), but it's clear the FP ones were sent to Bus Co in better shape than the MV ones.

2 hours ago, Chris.A said:

Besides, LGA shouldn't be complaining since until about  year ago, they were the last depot in the system to be using 1996 Novabus RTS 06's

Ok ,,,,,, but that's not exactly an excuse to say they shouldn't complain. If a bus is in crummy poor condition, depot management, mechanics, and drivers have every right to be upset. Just because they recently had something crappier doesn't mean they can;'t complain if they receive more crap further down the line.

2 hours ago, Chris.A said:

Also got word that another 2015-2016 LFS got into a major accident. #8421 is supposedly a write-off, but I have yet to see it.

 

 

I heard the frame buckled. Decent chance it's a write-off

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15 hours ago, Chris.A said:

2020 Prevost X3-45 #1300 should be on it's way to Staten Island very should as it was last seen in NJ about a week ago.

 

15 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

I would assume queens or bx before SI. the Bus Co ones are arriving before transit's so it would make a lot more sense for them to let the bus co depots get their hands all over them first.

B41 would make a lot of sense but then again they're is incredibly skilled at mismanaging that route. The only reason the B15 isn't articulated by now is b/c ENY still isn't ready for artics but in a perfect world, it would have been artic by now. As far as the B63 goes, IIRC they were floating running artics on the B63 and/or B68 in addition to the B35 in the future, but that discussion has fizzled out for now. B46 technically has the 46+ running artic, but i don't know how screwed or not the local version is with the SBS variant, so I won't comment on that...

A bunch of NGs were displaced by LFS being delivered and they had to go somewhere. MV was a logical choice because they have had a massive fleet of aging hybrids that racked up really high mileage.

Well,, the MV ones weren't really that great either. LaGuardia didn't like the ones they received, they took a while to get prepared for service, and most didn't go out often and didn't stay at the depot for long. 6643 has been an exception lasting that long but even so it's not an amazing bus, both before and after corona; I'm surprised it lasted this long frankly, last summer IIRC I was riding with a friend who had 6643 all evening and he remarked that it and the rest of the 6600s probably wouldn't make it to 2020 (Yet, here were are lol). FWIW 6643 was one of the first LGA 2005s to come back from coronavirus but it road called nearly 2 weeks ago and hasn't moved an inch since it was brought back to the depot. Perhaps it's the end of the line for 6643 with the LGA Link XD40s slowly being unwrapped, but who knows, LGA's pretty unpredictable.

 

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Whlie we're on the topic of dead LGA 2005s, 6539 has been out for nearly as long as 6643 has been.

1300 is almost undoubtedly going to CP. CP has flipdots AND the 2004-5 CLs, the two buses 1300-1557 are supposed to replace.

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21 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

6539 has been out for nearly as long as 6643 has been.

Aaaaaaand they were removed from the active roster this morning.. down to 6534-6535

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On 7/2/2020 at 12:00 AM, GojiMet86 said:

R32s are back in service. They ran as the Z trains in the AM and PM rush hours.

 

 

 

50067191162_3cae87feb9_c.jpgIMG_5606 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

Nice to see the R32s again. Hopefully they'll have a proper farewell fantrip like the R42s did. I also heard that the last MTA LIRR M3 cars got retired recently, anyone know for sure?

Also, more 2005-2006 Orion VII OG hybrids have been retired from MTA bus company, among those were #6543 and #6643. What's going to replace the units still at NYCT?

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According to NYCTF, Apparently 2006 Orion VII OG Hybrid #3545 has been retired and is now at Eastchester scrap. Any reason why? #3563 (Diesel OG) has also been retired recently out of Spring Creek Depot.

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8 hours ago, Chris.A said:

Apparently 2006 Orion VII OG Hybrid #3545 has been retired and is now at Eastchester scrap. Any reason why?

LGA just gained an extra 13 or so local buses due to 7444-56 being unwrapped from LGA Link duty freeing up some hybrids to be retired. May have something to do with that. I don't follow bus accidents though so i can't say for sure what killed it.

8 hours ago, Chris.A said:

#3563 (Diesel OG) has also been retired recently out of Spring Creek Depot.

It's still on roster, granted it hasn't been used in a while.

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On 7/6/2020 at 8:28 PM, Chris.A said:

Nice to see the R32s again. Hopefully they'll have a proper farewell fantrip like the R42s did. I also heard that the last MTA LIRR M3 cars got retired recently, anyone know for sure?

Also, more 2005-2006 Orion VII OG hybrids have been retired from MTA bus company, among those were #6543 and #6643. What's going to replace the units still at NYCT?

The 32s will almost certainly retire before COViD is over - the 179s wont take THAT long to fix.

12 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

LGA just gained an extra 13 or so local buses due to 7444-56 being unwrapped from LGA Link duty freeing up some hybrids to be retired. May have something to do with that. I don't follow bus accidents though so i can't say for sure what killed it.

It's still on roster, granted it hasn't been used in a while.

They gained 12-13 40-ft buses, but lost 12-13 artics (for Q70). So what is the deal on the artic side of things?

3563 is almost certainly retired.

On a different note, why was 5992 (a CS bus) on the Q70 last night? And also there are still a few XD40s every day with the XD60s. Assuming the latter is just that articulation hasn’t been fully implemented. What about 5992 on the Q70 (and how was an NYcT bus displaying an MTAB code?) 

On 5/23/2020 at 10:26 PM, Orion6025 said:
On 5/23/2020 at 8:11 PM, Chris.A said:

 

Parked since late march/early April

I caught one a few days ago

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4 hours ago, Jova42R said:

They gained 12-13 40-ft buses, but lost 12-13 artics (for Q70). So what is the deal on the artic side of things?

They didn’t transfer all the 60XX artics back to nycta to allow for the 70+ to go artic

4 hours ago, Jova42R said:

3563 is almost certainly retired.

 

Well as long as it’s in the system, assigned  to a depot .. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

4 hours ago, Jova42R said:

On a different note, why was 5992 (a CS bus) on the Q70 last night?

It’s an artic assigned to LGA and thus can be assigned to the 70+

4 hours ago, Jova42R said:

And also there are still a few XD40s every day with the XD60s. Assuming the latter is just that articulation hasn’t been fully implemented.

It happens sometimes, especially with newly articulated routes. Same thing is occurring with the b1.

4 hours ago, Jova42R said:

What about 5992 on the Q70 (and how was an NYcT bus displaying an MTAB code?) 

They program the bus to have bus co codes instead of nycta codes.

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2 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

t’s an artic assigned to LGA and thus can be assigned to the 70+

5992 is now at LGA?

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57 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

5992 is now at LGA?

NYCTA is loaning some 2016-2017 XD60s back to MTA bus company for the summer for extra service on the Q53.

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12 hours ago, Jova42R said:

5992 is now at LGA?

Yes. LGA XD60s are (as of july 10 5:27a)

5988,5990-5994

6068,6070,6072,6074,6076,6078,6080,6082,6084,6086,6088,6090,6092

6258-6286

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17 hours ago, Chris.A said:

NYCTA is loaning some 2016-2017 XD60s back to MTA bus company for the summer for extra service on the Q53.

 

5 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

Yes. LGA XD60s are (as of july 10 5:27a)

5988,5990-5994

6068,6070,6072,6074,6076,6078,6080,6082,6084,6086,6088,6090,6092

6258-6286

ah ok. thanks for clarifying.

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On 7/10/2020 at 5:26 AM, Orion6025 said:

Yes. LGA XD60s are (as of july 10 5:27a)

5988,5990-5994

6068,6070,6072,6074,6076,6078,6080,6082,6084,6086,6088,6090,6092

6258-6286

What's the status with 1999 Orion 5.501 #6326? Did it get scrapped?

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41 minutes ago, Chris.A said:

What's the status with 1999 Orion 5.501 #6326? Did it get scrapped?

still a pending museum bus

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On 7/10/2020 at 5:26 AM, Orion6025 said:

Yes. LGA XD60s are (as of july 10 5:27a)

5988,5990-5994

6068,6070,6072,6074,6076,6078,6080,6082,6084,6086,6088,6090,6092

6258-6286

Is it still only 6274 and 6280 in the LGA Link wrap?

 

On other notes, 2826, the only active EC flipdot, has been running a lot lately, mainly on the BXM9.

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12 hours ago, Jova42R said:

Is it still only 6274 and 6280 in the LGA Link wrap?

According to NYCTF, 6275,80-84 at least got the wrap so far. I always like to take info from the repaints thread with a bit of skepticism since sometimes folks there make false reports just to build clout but that's probably the best answer out there for now.

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