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2007 Orion VII OG hybrid #6803 is OOS for now due to an accident. Also, 2014 New Flyer XD40 #7090 is also out of service due to a separate wreck. East New York depot is down 2 buses. C40LFs #259-260 are back at JG and  XN60 #1031 is now at WF. 2009 Orion VII NG hybrid #4000 is now at Manhattanvile from MJQ.

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2011 C40LF #261 is also now back at Jackie Gleason depot. XN60 #1032 to WF depot.

On 5/21/2019 at 6:38 PM, Orion6025 said:

Yeah that makes sense. WOuld've been cost prohibitive to do that

Off topic, and I know these buses retired damn near 10 years ago, but does anyone know how many of the 1990-1991 TMC RTS's were repowered and which units? I always guessed around 300 of them, but I never knew for sure. #8000-8400?

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2005 Orion VII OG Hybrids #6503-6504, #6523, #6525, #6566-6567, #6571, #6579, #6591. #6597, #6599, and #6614-6615 are all now retired and are off the roster.

 

Also 2019 LFS's #8505-8507 are now on MTA property. The order is just about complete, just 1 or 2 buses to go. As for the XD40s, there seems to be a halt on the order. I will not be surprised if they end up becoming 2020 models (#7851-7905).

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The M9 finally made its first revenue run on Wednesday 9/11/19. 

It made its first run as the Port Jefferson 1621 out of Huntington, and arrived at Hunterspoint Avenue. It then deadheaded into LIC for about an hour, and went back into the main line.

 

48719719012_fe9cd5db89_c.jpgIMG_8085 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

48718383933_7777e8a019_c.jpgIMG_8044 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

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On 9/12/2019 at 6:57 PM, GojiMet86 said:

The M9 finally made its first revenue run on Wednesday 9/11/19. 

It made its first run as the Port Jefferson 1621 out of Huntington, and arrived at Hunterspoint Avenue. It then deadheaded into LIC for about an hour, and went back into the main line.

 

48719719012_fe9cd5db89_c.jpgIMG_8085 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

48718383933_7777e8a019_c.jpgIMG_8044 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

48723752787_d77472642e_c.jpgIMG_8092 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

48718682502_b15c1ae5f2_c.jpgIMG_8025 by GojiMet86, on Flickr



48723244943_d5716a447b_c.jpgIMG_8094 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

48718388528_58a9156c7c_c.jpgIMG_8031 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

48718724141_f55a6fc298_c.jpgIMG_8035 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

48723753492_9125c02ff8_c.jpgIMG_8088 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

48719220523_ab71f3a609_c.jpgIMG_8050 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

 

 

 

Well, it seems that the MTA will not be going 100% electric for another decade if the press release for the 2020-2024 Capital budget is to be believed. Atleast 500 electric buses are coming within the next 4-5 years, but along with them, we probably will still see a few more hybrid and  CNG bus orders. So we may get more XN40s and XN60s in future years from the MTA (and NICE too of course).

Also, interms of current buses, #3908, #3332, #5385 and #6803 are all OOS with #6803 at Eastchester pending scrap or repairs (depending on the damage).

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On 6/28/2019 at 2:58 PM, Orion6025 said:

Ttmg

The MTA is expected to receive some 713 "standard" buses , 345 artic buses (of which 100 will be electrics), 345 standard electrics, and 115 express buses between 2020 and 2024 (this might not included the 275 upcoming hybrid order and the 250+ OTC order). I believe these will kill off all the remaining Orion VII OG hybrid, most of the NG hybrids, some earlier LFSAs, and basically anything built before 2010.

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On 4/2/2019 at 8:29 PM, Orion6025 said:

I'm not sure where this is most appropriate, but I thought it was best to post here:

I don't know how many people use the wiki as a guideline for bus retirements/deliveries and/or depot assignments, but I'm just putting it out there that there are numerous inaccuracies for depot assignments on the pages; it takes me 3 hours to do a full sweep of where all ~~5,800(?) MTA buses are assigned, so I usually only check the fleets being retired and delivered. As of now, that information is up to date (After having fallen behind significantly this month). That said, that leaves a lot of miscellaneous moves for the "normal" (2005-2016) fleet overlooked on the wiki. I put some in, but those are by all means not all. I'll try and get around to updating that information soon, but until then please be aware that it may be wrong...

2005 Orion VII OG hybrids #6495 and #6599 have been retired.

 

XE60 pilot bus #4950 is now at JFK with +SBS+ wrap (or paint, not sure which).

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I’m not sure where the most appropriate place to put this would be since we don’t have a topic for the Brooklyn Navy Yard as far as i know, but they seem to have a sixth vicinity, #92 that only started tracking a few months ago. It’s also a 2017 bus that for whatever reason wasn’t used till recently. I’ll put the plate and VIN on the navy yard page later

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I’m not sure where the most appropriate place to put this would be since we don’t have a topic for the Brooklyn Navy Yard as far as i know, but they seem to have a sixth vicinity, #92 that only started tracking a few months ago. It’s also a 2017 bus that for whatever reason wasn’t used till recently. I’ll put the plate and VIN on the navy yard page later

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Does anyone know where you can find the complete list of subway car sets by fleet numbers? nycsubway.org gives general info for each model (i.e. R62 = #1301-1625, R62A = #1651-2475), but doesn't provide a list of each set by fleet numbers. For example, #3010-3011-3012-3013-3014 is a 5-car R179 set, and #6000-6001-5999-5998 is a 4-car R46 set (the R46/68 sets each consist of 4 consecutive numbers, but not in sequential order since the A-cars have even numbers and B-cars have odd numbers). I've also noticed that some R142A 5-car sets have an extra 6th car (R188?) with a non-matching number added to them to convert into 6-car sets, i.e. #7510-7928-7509-7508-7507-7506. If, for example, you saw the number on only 1-2 cars, how can you figure out the numbers of the other cars in the set?

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https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2019/10/18/sources-last-week-byford-resigned-from-mta-hes-now-reconsidering-1225679

 

 
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Sources: Last week, Byford resigned from MTA. He’s now reconsidered.

By DANA RUBINSTEIN


10/18/2019 12:22 PM EDT



Andy Byford, the widely lauded New York City subways chief, resigned last week, multiple sources told POLITICO on Thursday. He's now reconsidering.

Since he sent his resignation letter to Ronnie Hakim, managing director of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, officials have been trying to talk him back from the ledge. They appear to have had some success, though as of Friday morning, Byford had yet to officially rescind the letter.

"I'm not going anywhere and I remain laser focused on improving day-to-day service for millions of New Yorkers and delivering a transformed transit network," Byford said in a statement provided by the MTA. "The historic $51 billion capital plan provides a golden opportunity to further transform the subway and bus network — with unprecedented investments in accessibility — and my team and I are totally focused on achieving that. The Governor and I are on exactly the same page about the need to dramatically improve the transit system in New York and we now have the plan and the funding to do that."

The reasons Byford elucidated for resigning were basically twofold, according to one source: He’s tired of having to help organize gubernatorial-driven conferences about signaling and technology, which distract him from his job of improving subway and bus service, and he’s disinclined to preside over possible service cuts or layoffs.

The MTA is considering reducing the size of its workforce and cutting service on one of Brooklyn's busiest bus lines, even as Gov. Andrew Cuomo is also imposing new operational costs on the MTA in the form of 500 new cops.

A spokesperson for the governor had no immediate comment.

Byford’s shot across the bow comes even as Cuomo has made an effort in recent months to paper over his differences with the subway chief, whom he had a hand in hiring. The governor has recently adopted a warmer tone — in public and in private — when mentioning Byford, leading to talk of a rapprochement, as POLITICO reported in September.

“Byford leaving would be a huge loss for New Yorkers,” said Nick Sifuentes, executive director of the Tri-State Transportation Campaign. “If Byford leaves, it’s hard to imagine who would want to fill that role that would be able to do it anywhere near as well as him.”

 

 

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There have been numerous developments in future bus orders for the MTA over the past two months. I'm not going to list everything since I'm not feeling like typing it all out again, but you can see it all here. Of note i suppose is that the large express bus contract has been awarded to prevost (unfortunately...). 4950 and a few more are delivered but they aren't assigned to any depots yet (They're awaiting preparatory work in advance of being delivered to mike quill).

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On 10/21/2019 at 8:34 PM, Orion6025 said:

There have been numerous developments in future bus orders for the MTA over the past two months. I'm not going to list everything since I'm not feeling like typing it all out again, but you can see it all here. Of note i suppose is that the large express bus contract has been awarded to prevost (unfortunately...). 4950 and a few more are delivered but they aren't assigned to any depots yet (They're awaiting preparatory work in advance of being delivered to mike quill).

I can't believe they are getting more Prevost X3-45s. I was expecting some MCI 45 CRTs after all the promotion for them. I do wonder if anymore CNG buses are coming next decade (outside of NICE bus or course). That 348 diesel bus order is also pretty interesting (let me guess, more XD40s?)

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9 hours ago, Chris.A said:

I can't believe they are getting more Prevost X3-45s. I was expecting some MCI 45 CRTs after all the promotion for them. I

Money talks

9 hours ago, Chris.A said:

CNG buses are

Possible. See the q25

9 hours ago, Chris.A said:

let me guess, more XD40s?)

Prob

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21 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

Money talks

Possible. See the q25

Prob

I think the MTA should get more CNG artics in particular, especially for Bus Company. You think they'll be any Orion VIIs left at the MTA or NICE by 2029 or so?

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On 10/21/2019 at 8:34 PM, Orion6025 said:

There have been numerous developments in future bus orders for the MTA over the past two months. I'm not going to list everything since I'm not feeling like typing it all out again, but you can see it all here. Of note i suppose is that the large express bus contract has been awarded to prevost (unfortunately...). 4950 and a few more are delivered but they aren't assigned to any depots yet (They're awaiting preparatory work in advance of being delivered to mike quill).

Is XD40s #7851-7905 officially dropped? If so, why?

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5 hours ago, Chris.A said:

I think the MTA should get more CNG artics in particular, especially for Bus Company. You think they'll be any Orion VIIs left at the MTA or NICE by 2029 or so?

Yeah, there's no longer a need for 40 foot CNG vehicles for a while so any CNG purchases would almost certainly be upgrading routes to articulated operations. Quite frankly I'd be surprised if any Orion 7s were left with the TA or NICE by 2029. If anything, it would be the EPA10s 7000-7089.

3 hours ago, Chris.A said:

Is XD40s #7851-7905 officially dropped? If so, why?

It kind of stalled and lost momentum... They'll be built eventually though as  implied by their intentions to buy more diesel buses so.

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1 hour ago, Orion6025 said:

Yeah, there's no longer a need for 40 foot CNG vehicles for a while so any CNG purchases would almost certainly be upgrading routes to articulated operations. Quite frankly I'd be surprised if any Orion 7s were left with the TA or NICE by 2029. If anything, it would be the EPA10s 7000-7089.

It kind of stalled and lost momentum... They'll be built eventually though as  implied by their intentions to buy more diesel buses so.

Yeah I guess 7000s and MAYBE #1840-1884 since those 3G CNGs have 18 to 20 year tanks. I guess by extension, the 2011-2013 New Flyer C40LF CNGs could stick around too until almost 2030. I doubt the NG CNGs, XD40s and LFS's from that year will though...

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On 10/24/2019 at 6:28 PM, Orion6025 said:

Yeah, there's no longer a need for 40 foot CNG vehicles for a while so any CNG purchases would almost certainly be upgrading routes to articulated operations. Quite frankly I'd be surprised if any Orion 7s were left with the TA or NICE by 2029. If anything, it would be the EPA10s 7000-7089.

It kind of stalled and lost momentum... They'll be built eventually though as  implied by their intentions to buy more diesel buses so.

XN60 #1098 was working the B67 Saturday evening! Heard they were short on C40LFs and XN40s.

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7 hours ago, t_harris01 said:

.what routes can impossibly find  the MTA proterra on

b24,32,39,47,62 and the q58,59. In theory it is possible that one could show on the b38 but I wouldn't count on that, it really depends on how many XD60s  can run.

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20 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

b24,32,39,47,62 and the q58,59. In theory it is possible that one could show on the b38 but I wouldn't count on that, it really depends on how many XD60s  can run.

thanks for the help 

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