Wayside Observer Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 On November 22, 2019 at 3:07 AM, Downsview 108 said: To be honest, I had no idea that there was more than one kid hired as "interns" for GPS video. As I said, suspect as fuck. A bunch of teens going over to a middle aged man's house to work with VCRs? My mother and the mother of one of my transit friends at the time were a couple that did go ballistic. The fact that the idea of a TTS Youth () was raised told me back then that there was some rift between the old farts and those of us who were teens and in our early 20s at the time. And LOL! I remember the first newsletter with "Living Colour". I think it was the January 2000 issue. Sorry, the January 20000 issue as there was a misprint. 5 figures and they couldn't afford to hire someone to proofread? LOL. It didn't help that the old farts wanted to veto every charter that would appeal to the younger fellows. Thank god there was the OTA at the time which was a charter group with mostly younger people. And those charters were cheap. Never more than $20 bucks. There were at least four kids that I know of that got "hired" at different times. Actually, I saw one interesting exchange at HCRR when Neilson was delivering tapes to the gift shop and a bunch of old codgers hanging around outside asked where the previous kid was and Ray's response was, "I fired him!" and that got a few laughs. Even the old grumps at Halton observed and joked around about the staff turnover I guess you could call it. And that was the extent of it and everyone went on making money which seems to be prime directive number one with the Toronto foam groups: suck money in by any means necessary. Anything else is a number two consideration and by number two, a distant number two. I forgot about that TTS Youth branch idea that got floated. That idea seemed to wither on the vine almost immediately. I actually saw a prepress copy of the TTS newsletter once back then in the early 2000s. Every page was pasted up on pica spaced layout paper and that's what got turned over to the printing company. I couldn't believe it. I hadn't seen or done a pasteup job on layout paper since I was in high school and that's only because the transition was underway to digital well before that and the visual arts information design class I was in was still training everyone how to do it that way and how to do it online with Aldus Pagemaker running on a bunch of very early Power PC Macs since both methods were in use. I'm glad I caught the transition between the old ways of doing things and the new and got to do a lot of both as the long tail of the end of the old technology played out until recently. But, by the time I saw this going on at TTS, it that was thoroughly antique for new publication page layouts but physically handling the photos and the text and laying it out and then pasting it, that would've provided a lot of opportunity to see that typo. On November 22, 2019 at 3:07 AM, Downsview 108 said: Ugh. I am seriously weighing the benefits of going to the CLRV last run. Now that I hear the TTC is holding some kind of weird lottery to ride the last car, we may be faced with a horde of disgruntled foamers who are likely to come back wielding switch irons and tiki torches chanting "you will not replace us!". I was talking with some friends wondering how the last CLRV run was going to be handled since the ALRV was packed like a sardine. I caught the last ALRV as it was heading in at Queen & Bathurst and I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to get on. I smooshed myself in the rear door and made it though. I guess we now have our answer on that and I guess there's the officially staged last run plus the last run for the public. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that other than take some rides of my own over the next few weeks. I don't think foamers could handle either switchirons or tiki torches responsibly. With respect to the tiki torches, I could see a foamer committing an act of self immolation except nobody would ever be able to determine if it's a deliberate act of protest or an accident. On November 22, 2019 at 3:07 AM, Downsview 108 said: I'll be honest. I always liked the T1s and when they came in I thought they shared a lot of similarities with the Gloucesters they "spiritually" replaced. Aside from the fleet numbers, like the G's they have less rounded windows, they re-introduced those metal hangers, the rollsign font was closer to the TTC Subway font, etc. I like them more than the H6s that's for sure. They have a clean, tidy appearance and that's what I like. I was literally in kindergarten the last time I remember riding the Gloucesters but even at that age and having not really ridden the subway that often, the seeds of foam were already planted and I preferred those cars to the others. H1s at that time were like riding the T1s today. Considered booooring. Plus back then they used to mix up the classes so you never knew what you were going to get. Don't like the H5s you're on, walk tot he middle car which is an H1. Door chimes I don't care about. I don't like them and I still miss the two whistles. Even though you couldn't even hear them on cars with the fans going. Having grown up in the middle part of Toronto and riding the subway frequently, I was on Gloucesters all the time and the subway really was a meh experience after the last of those were retired. Although, trains of mixed cars where everything from an M1 through an H6 could and did mix. When the H6s were new, there were problems where trains of solid H6s would act up and the TTC got around that until the bugs were ironed out by dropping something else in between two H6 units. Trains that were formed out of an H6-M1-H6 were wild to ride on if you were in the middle because the Montrealer would accelerate and brake quicker than the sixes. The two M1 cars would go slam once as the train started and then sit pushed up as close to the leading H6 as the draft gear in the couplers would allow. Then, during braking, the M1 would be slamming and shuddering like crazy while the H6s on either side of it would keep on cruising as they gradually slowed down, dragging the M1 that was trying to stop along for the ride the whole time. I don't remember exactly when it happened or what the reasoning was but the TTC went from mixed bag subway trains as a rule to never mixing car classes as the new rule sometime in the late 1990s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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