Streety McCarface Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, Wayside Observer said: Yes, that's exactly why you never destroy or discard your originals. Anything after that is only a duplicate. Digital information is an interesting paradox. Depending on how it's coded, you can make an unlimited number of bit perfect exact duplicates and if you stay ahead of deterioration of the carrier medium, you can roll it ahead indefinitely, and it'll remain perfect. On the other hand, once the bit rot sets in and it gets ahead of any error correction and recovery scheme with the encoding, you're sunk. You're sunk if the medium becomes unplayable. You're sunk if the encoded format becomes unplayable even if you can read the ones and zeros off the medium. It's unbelievable how digital formats can work for you and against you and you need to be ruthless about staying on top of migrating data. ZFS had so much promise when it was being developed by Sun. Now, under it's under Oracle because they bought Sun and nobody wants to go near it so long term support is going to be an issue especially if Oracle decides to throw the towel in on it. Oracle is a brutally painful and expensive ("This is our service and support contract. This is the price. Take it or leave it" at the mild end) company to deal with and I'd be reluctant to have any of my data locked up in something that depends on that company being generous. As for consumer video formats that actually launched and became mainstream, I see your VHS and I raise you to Compact VHS for garbageness. Is the C in VHS-C for "compact" or "crappy"? I walked (ran?) away around 2001 for many of the same reasons. Toronto Transportation Society? No. Uh-huh. Absolutely not. Do you remember how they used to print this obscene list of terms and conditions on their charter tickets telling you what you could and could not do with the pictures you took with the film and processing you paid for on the charter you paid for? Multiple people got angry phone calls from Neilson about violations of that. I took him to task on the double standard about that when he's cutting together film from the same charters and selling it for personal gain and got told that this was 'different'. Of course it is. Never mind all the other disgusting overreach the TTS tried to inflict on members personal lives in terms of what you can do, who you can be friends with (Can you say Alan Gryfe? Can you say guilt by association?) and so on and so forth not to mention a lot of the other deeply unethical possibly stunts that got pulled that frankly, I don't want to get into. Then you have the Halton County Radial Railway. One of my friends adamantly swears up and down that it's different now from back then when it was a geriatric ward full of the most miserable, nasty geezers you could ever find. You'd think HCRR and TTS would be like peas in a pod but no, the HCRR has a massive hate for the TTS. I know this because I was with two friends from the Philadelphia area riding streetcars in Toronto a few years ago with some HCRR member who turned his attention towards me while the four of us were in the back of an ALRV and demanded to know if I was a TTS member. I said no because I wasn't and this guy went off on me about how he was at a TTS meeting and blah blah blah and tore a hell of a strip out of me, meanwhile I have nothing to do with either group and I don't want to have anything to do with either group, and I'm sitting there thinking, "I can't believe I'm wasting a day off work listening to this shit." So yeah, organized foam? No. Absolutely not. No way. Not signing up for that. So, I'm either doing what I want to do on my own or with a couple of friends and that's it. I've bitten my tongue and gone on a couple of charters, open houses, last runs and wow. Just wow. Wow. The H4. That PCC. That ALRV both the charter and the last run. The CLRV charter. Holy cow. Unbelievable. Yes, I agree there's a lot of value in charters taking a vehicle where it normally doesn't go or if it's one of the historic fleet that doesn't go out all that often but it sure comes with a lot of bad now. Part of it is the insane costs and the floodgates have to be opened up wide in order to barely break even now and that means admitting the basketcases and the safety vest bozos. On the 80th Anniversary of the PCCs, there was some dork wearing a safety vest and it was a frigging Canada Post safety vest part of a mail carrier's uniform for crying out loud. Over the top foamer. The sad thing is the public events. Charters are one thing, but when the TTC or Metrolinx etc. put on a public event like an open house where Joe Q. Public gets to show up, the reputation black eye has to be immense both inside of the transit industry and among the members of the general public who get exposed to the nonsense. All hobbies have people that take things too far and I've seen it in other interests but this one, the scale that 'too far' is on is orders of magnitude further out to lunch worse than any other hobby or interest that I've seen. I remember hearing that the H5 last run got cut short because the motor alternator on one of the cars died. I wasn't there but that's what I was told at the time. I seriously hope it was an equipment failure under the floor of one of the cars and not because of some jackass getting into one of the cabs and fucking with equipment that caused them to kick the train out of service before the last run had been finished. Unreal. Holy fuck I did not even realize it was this bad here. Being introverted I try to keep to myself, take my photos, stay out of people's way. I guess that has made me immune to all the political crap that seems to be going on here. I get that the TTS & HCRR need money, but holy cow, preventing people from posting their own videos? How can the TTS preach demands like that, especially since it's made up of a bunch of fans? I won't be the first to admit that there are some really rude people at Halton, but you can expect pickiness everywhere, especially given the disconnect between the modern generations (Millennial & Gen Z) and the Boomer/GenX group of people. It's as if people can't learn from each other these days. However, personally, that sentiment has always been present in Toronto Transportation, TTC streetcar operators, for the most part, don't mind filming (so long as you don't take their photos, and I would hope most of us respect that). Subway operators are a whole other world though. I have yet to come by a single TTC subway operator who was encouraging of the hobby, and while I'm sure they're out there, the risk of having the cops called on me is far too great. Going back to an earlier conversation, the Philadelphia/Pittsburgh, and US operators in general seem to be a lot more open to the hobby. One of the greatest experiences I had was being able to ride in the cab with a Scranton trolley operator and ride through the tunnel. We chatted about the differences between the Philadelphia trolley system and the Toronto streetcar system. While there are some great people at the HCRR (I haven't been to any TTS meetings so I can't really make a judgement there), they're definitely not as hospitable. Run on sentence, I know. 10 minutes ago, PCC Guy said: As far as organized fan groups go, in my time I don't think I've ever stumbled upon a group that has been as warm and welcoming as the Toronto Model Railroad Club. I've been attending shows of theirs for years and virtually every time, I've had at least one or two great conversations with someone from the club, who was more than happy to shed some light on their hobby and their process. A few years back I did a mini documentary on the club for a school project and there was a decent amount of folk there who were more than happy to be interviewed on camera for it. It's been a really positive experience all around. If I didn't live out in the sticks I'd have joined a long time ago. They are super nice. Can second this. 13 minutes ago, Wayside Observer said: We can’t be friends. Just kidding. Actually, I’ve thought about crashing foamer events dressed head to toe in my construction gear from work that I have to use whenever I’m working on a permitted area or outdoors in the weather and making savage fun of the foamers except I don’t think anybody would get the joke. The irony is, the absolute best weather gear I have is all high viz work gear and I flat out refuse to wear it at any of the transit events because I don’t want to be mistaken for being an employee, or worse, one of the safety vest foamers. This to the point of wearing clothing that was less suited to outdoor winter activity last February than undesirably paint myself as one of the foamers. I’m quoting myself here but having written this and thinking about it, I really wish I had the presence of mind when this took place to ask the guy, “If the TTS is such a despised off-limits group for you guys, what were you doing in one of their meetings?” I get wearing safety vests if you're fanning mainline freight on a freeway bridge or other dangerous area, but otherwise, what's the point, how self-centered do some of these people have to be to warrant a "Look at me! I'm a foamer" visual statement? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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