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42 minutes ago, Gil said:

Given the announcement of the new Hwy 27-Woodbine GO station would a second phase of the Finch LRT to the Pearson Transit hub be better off connecting here on the way from Humber College?  The alternative would be to run along Rexdale/Derry to Airport Rd bypassing the GO station (in favour of connecting at Malton GO), but likely being better able to serve the redeveloped site along Rexdale.  Depending on the approach to the Pearson hub it could go through the redeveloped site as well.

It's definitely on the radar. However I think this was always one of the options considered anyway.

https://twitter.com/HealthyCityMaps/status/1103389770103877632

 

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16 hours ago, Gil said:

Given the announcement of the new Hwy 27-Woodbine GO station would a second phase of the Finch LRT to the Pearson Transit hub be better off connecting here on the way from Humber College?  The alternative would be to run along Rexdale/Derry to Airport Rd bypassing the GO station (in favour of connecting at Malton GO), but likely being better able to serve the redeveloped site along Rexdale.  Depending on the approach to the Pearson hub it could go through the redeveloped site as well.

Long term: sure. As pointed out above, it's already sorta in the plans.

 

But immediately? I don't think that the potential transfer numbers will justify it just yet.


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5 hours ago, Orion V said:

So it's confirmed Line 6 will not be using Flexities? Or too early to tell?

Yes, it was confirmed about 2 years ago that they would be using the same Alstom Citadis Spirit vehicles as Ottawa (and Hurontario). 17 of the 48.5 metre long double-ended cars have been ordered.

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3 hours ago, Cityflyer said:

Anyone know when the expected date for the 1st Alstom vehicle to be delivered as per the contract agreement?

Good question. An article last year noted they'd have a maximum capacity of 3 vehicles a month - so lots of time yet to manufacture the 17 needed for Finch West. Especially given that Metrolinx has delayed the opening of the line from 2021 to 2023 since Alstom was awarded the sole-source contract over 2 years ago.

Metrolinx may be not wanting the vehicles too early, as they obviously have no where to put them yet.

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/light-rail/alstom-brampton-plant-ramping-up/

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On 3/6/2019 at 5:20 PM, 2044 said:

It's definitely on the radar. However I think this was always one of the options considered anyway.

https://twitter.com/HealthyCityMaps/status/1103389770103877632

 

I had noticed this when UrbanRail updated their map for Toronto, but when did the Finch LRT go from grey to pink?  Wikipedia still has their entry in grey as does Infrastructure Ontario.  Meanwhile Metrolinx has the exact same map but in pink.  Also, as the project continues to progress, has any thought been given to what they'd renumber the 6 BAY bus to once the line opens?

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5 minutes ago, Gil said:

I had noticed this when UrbanRail updated their map for Toronto, but when did the Finch LRT go from grey to pink?  Wikipedia still has their entry in grey as does Infrastructure Ontario.  Meanwhile Metrolinx has the exact same map but in pink.  Also, as the project continues to progress, has any thought been given to what they'd renumber the 6 BAY bus to once the line opens?

I’m pretty sure Finch West has been magenta since the Transit City days. Grey seems to have been used in the last 5 years or so.

Also, here’s the latest update on the project: https://blog.metrolinx.com/2019/11/15/future-construction-details-announced-for-torontos-finch-west-light-rail-transit-project-find-features-of-the-lrt-elements-here/

Major construction for the future transit route has now kicked off, including work on a new maintenance and storage facility. But read on for more details on what’s been done as well as what’s to come along the new route.

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Metrolinx had a Virtual Open House from May 13-20 and have posted the display information along with the questions/comments received on the Finch West LRT site.  There's also a video with a walkthrough of Finch West station.

Here's the display material.  There's still some inconsistencies with the graphics and renderings about the line colour (and in one slide the designation!).  The route map on page 4 (along with the accent colour throughout) is lavender, the rendering of Finch West station on page 8 has it in grey (and a minor quibble about the lack of the TTC font in the wayfinding renderings), the Humber College station rendering on page 11 has the line using the Eglinton Line's 5 designation while referring to the station in one of the renderings (hopefully as just a temporary placeholder) as Humber Stop.  Meanwhile on page 26 showing a previous open house the map is in pink.  I know this is a Metrolinx-led project and it's a minor detail with the renderings and presentation material, but can they at least keep things consistent amongst themselves if they are begrudgingly going to accept the TTC's designation of grey?

I wonder in light of the changes to work environment due to COVID-19 will counter any benefits to having less traffic on the roads in regards to the completion time for this project?

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Metrolinx reneges on provision of land for a promised Jane-Finch community centre, claiming the commitment wasn’t “properly vetted”. Instead the property will be sold to the highest bidder.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/07/21/metrolinx-reneges-on-plan-to-donate-land-for-jane-finch-community-centre-will-instead-sell-to-highest-bidder.html

Metrolinx (which we now know receives direction from MTO) have hamstrung future consultations with communities and municipal representatives, adding this to the resiling from the public art on the Davenport Overpass. On the other hand, budget realities may make FWLRT, Davenport and Crosstown the last active transit projects in 416 for some time to come.

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On 7/23/2020 at 12:21 AM, dowlingm said:

Metrolinx reneges on provision of land for a promised Jane-Finch community centre, claiming the commitment wasn’t “properly vetted”. Instead the property will be sold to the highest bidder.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/07/21/metrolinx-reneges-on-plan-to-donate-land-for-jane-finch-community-centre-will-instead-sell-to-highest-bidder.html

Metrolinx (which we now know receives direction from MTO) have hamstrung future consultations with communities and municipal representatives, adding this to the resiling from the public art on the Davenport Overpass. On the other hand, budget realities may make FWLRT, Davenport and Crosstown the last active transit projects in 416 for some time to come.

The Toronto Star published another article about this in today's paper.  I'm not sure if I'm reading them correctly though.  It sounds like Metrolinx backed out of a verbal commitment from the first article.  Unfortunately, if that's the case, and there was nothing on paper to hold them to, it would be pretty straightforward to change their minds and sell the land at full commercial value to whichever developer offers the most cash.  Even if there was a commitment on paper, depending on how it's written, Metrolinx could probably still back out very easily and if the direction from the Ontario government to maximize the return on assets is what's responsible for this about face, the necessary legislative steamrolling to make it happen is far from out of the question.

It's unfortunate because that neighbourhood doesn't need to be kicked in the face anymore than it already has been.

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Labour Groups Question Metrolinx's Commitment on Community Benefit Agreements in Procurement of New Lines

So, apparently, backing out of the commitment to donate that land, even if it wasn't a very strong legal commitment to do it, has prompted wider questions to the effect of:  How much do you trust Metrolinx?

Please discuss.

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This is pretty disgusting that they are playing the blame game like a little kid. SHAME ON THEM. Basically blaming some "official" (which could be a magical ghost) and not owning up to it. It could all mean they never supported the idea of a community centre beside the MSF, fool the public to get them to shut up, get approved and make some excuse up later. 

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14 hours ago, Wayside Observer said:

The Toronto Star published another article about this in today's paper.  I'm not sure if I'm reading them correctly though.  It sounds like Metrolinx backed out of a verbal commitment from the first article.  Unfortunately, if that's the case, and there was nothing on paper to hold them to, it would be pretty straightforward to change their minds and sell the land at full commercial value to whichever developer offers the most cash.  Even if there was a commitment on paper, depending on how it's written, Metrolinx could probably still back out very easily and if the direction from the Ontario government to maximize the return on assets is what's responsible for this about face, the necessary legislative steamrolling to make it happen is far from out of the question.

It's unfortunate because that neighbourhood doesn't need to be kicked in the face anymore than it already has been.

And what makes it worse is that it was the community who brought up the idea of setting aside a piece of land exclusively for the community hub. It it wasnt for them, Metrolinx would have used the entire plot for the MSF and they wouldn't have even had the opportunity to sell anything.

 

But this is a clear directive from Caroline Mulroney and the Ministry of Transportation, and since Metrolinx can conduct their business under closed doors, they can get away with doing things as secretly and sleezly as they want. Unfortunately the Conservative government has no shame whatsoever, and will do anything to help developers get what they want, when they want.

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12 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

This is pretty disgusting that they are playing the blame game like a little kid. SHAME ON THEM. Basically blaming some "official" (which could be a magical ghost) and not owning up to it. It could all mean they never supported the idea of a community centre beside the MSF, fool the public to get them to shut up, get approved and make some excuse up later. 

Why are you surprised? This has been Metrolinx's MO for a long time now.

 

Government makes a decision that the people don't like? Blame the faceless bureaucrats at Metrolinx. Metrolinx makes a decision that people don't like? Shit flows downhill, start blaming people down the chain.

 

Dan

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On 7/25/2020 at 8:05 PM, Shaun said:

Let's hope that they are not as bad as the Ottawa trains. 

They are literally the same trains. The only advantage they have here is that the weather isn't quite as harsh.

And I suppose they must have slightly different signalling, with all the road crossings.

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