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Victoria Park = Eglinton Square (I suspect the station will located at Eglinton Sq/Eglinton Ave, midway between Vic Pk and Pharmacy; plus major mall nearby)

Warden = Golden Mile (general name for the area)

If you used Goldem Mile as Warden you would confuse some people for thinking of the Golden Mile shopping centre at VP across from Eglinton Square

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If you used Goldem Mile as Warden you would confuse some people for thinking of the Golden Mile shopping centre at VP across from Eglinton Square

Yeah just like Royal York and Royal York Stn right you got an old couple coming out of royal york stn askin ppl wheres da damn the hotel at (lol), ummmmmm i don't think ppl will be that retarded.

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Yeah just like Royal York and Royal York Stn right you got an old couple coming out of royal york stn askin ppl wheres da damn the hotel at (lol), ummmmmm i don't think ppl will be that retarded.

I take it you have never had to work with the general public of this city before.

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I take it you have never had to work with the general public of this city before.

Alrighty then! Ok so all they would have to do is just subtitle the actual street name under Golden Mile -Warden- just like they did for St. Andrew and St. Patty's station which is King and Dundas sts. Eglinton Crosstown will cross many neighborhoods where they can use this method and also for streets that already have a subway named for it. For example Forest Hill -Chaplin- , Leaside -Laird- get it?

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http://www.thestar.com/news/ttc/article/10...consultant?bn=1

Province halts ‘very rich contract’ for TTC art consultant

That didn’t last long.

Ontario Transportation Minister Kathleen Wynne Thursday morning ordered the TTC and Metrolinx to pull an ad seeking a consultant who was to help choose art work for stops along the Eglinton Crosstown LRT.

In a telephone interview Wynne said she first learned of plans to hire an art consultant for up to $420,000 over two years after reading it Thursday’s Star.

Right away she contacted Metrolinx CEO Bruce McCuaig and instructed him to take the job posting down.

Though the TTC took out the ad in a local newspaper Monday, Metrolinx, a provincial agency was to foot the bill for the non-staff position.

The new $8.2 billion, 20-kilometre line is set to be finished in 2020, and is planned to run underground all the way from Black Creek to Kennedy station, and continue above-ground along the existing Scarborough Rapid Transit route. The province is footing the bill for the line, and the TTC is doing the design and engineering work.

It’s to have up to 26 stops.

Wynne said now isn’t the time to be talking about pricey postings for art consultants for the line.

“There’ll be lots of time to talk about art in the stations … but our focus right now is getting the line built. That kind of contract, hundreds of thousands of dollars for an art consultant is unacceptable at this point.

“It’s a very rich contract,’’ she added.

When asked why she or someone in her office wasn’t made aware of the job posting before it went out, Wynne said her understanding is “the TTC had responsibility for this particular process.’’

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Although, I'm not sure on the what it will cost for this guy to produce the art.

The offer wasn't to produce the art, but to help integrate it with the stations. It is essentially a third party between the artists and the engineers.

It would be interesting to find out how much someone was paid for both the York-Spadina extension and the Sheppard Line, as both should have had a similar position.

Dan

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Ford requests $650 million from the Eglinton LRT to be transferred to the Sheppard Extension

Premier Dalton McGuinty has responded coolly to a request from Mayor Rob Ford for quick help funding the Sheppard Ave. subway expansion, a project that was supposed to proceed without provincial assistance under the March transit agreement that killed the Transit City plan.

McGuinty said Ford asked him to speedily provide some of the money - up to $650 million that the province agreed to direct toward Sheppard if it had leftover funds from the $8.2 billion Eglinton Ave. light rail project it is responsible for.

“We'll take a look at the request. I think I've got a slightly different take on the $650 million,” McGuinty said after the meeting in his Queen's Park office, which lasted more than 50 minutes. “The memorandum of understanding that we entered into provides that we could make up to $650 million available once we have determined what our costs are associated with the Eglinton line. And it's pretty hard to make that determination at this point in time.”

Ford's request for provincial money for Sheppard again calls the viability of the project into question. He and his brother, Councillor Doug Ford, have said that the Sheppard expansion will be largely financed with private money even though transit experts and their council foes have called that plan unfeasible.

At the ceremonial groundbreaking for the new Ripley's aquarium, which he attended immediately after the meeting, Ford said the Sheppard line would indeed be built. “It's definitely, definitely feasible,” he said.

Asked if it's feasible without federal or provincial funding, Ford took a long pause and said, “We're going to obviously need help from all three levels, but it's going to get off the ground and we're going to have the Sheppard subway built.”

“It's important to taxpayers,” he said, “and it was clearly stated during the election. People voted in that area, you look at the poll results, I campaigned on the Sheppard subway and people supported my platform.”

The cost of the expansion was originally estimated at $4.2 billion. Gordon Chong, the leader of the entity tasked with coming up with the business case for the line, later revised the estimate to $4.7 billion.

Construction on a Sheppard light rail line had already begun when Ford scrapped the Transit City plan championed by his predecessor, David Miller, in favour of a plan that would include a subway on Sheppard. Transit City would also have included a light rail line on Finch Ave.

McGuinty said Ford wants the provincial money now because the city might lose out on $333 million in federal funding without it. But the $333 million is associated with Transit City, McGuinty said; Ottawa had agreed to pay a third of the $950 estimated cost of the Sheppard LRT.

“That $333 million is in fact connected to the Transit City deal,” McGuinty said. “And the mayor's trying to have that transferred into this new deal that we've arranged here...The mayor and I have done a new deal. New mayor, new deal.”

Ford said he had not asked McGuinty for any “new money.” “It’s existing money. There’s some deadlines that we have to meet. And that’s it,” he said. But a senior provincial government official disputed Ford's characterization of the Sheppard request.

“It would be an impact on our fiscal books,” the official said. The official noted the existing transit agreement; Ford, he said, is “looking to change that deal.”

Ford said he talked to McGuinty about provincial support for child care. KPMG suggested as part of the city's core service review that the city eliminate subsidies for the 2,000 spaces for which the province does not share the cost.

Ford said he also asked for permission to sell the Toronto Community Housing Corporation's 928 single-family homes. He said he raised the subject of Exhibition Place and Ontario Place.

And he said he talked to McGuinty about public health nurses. In June, Ford drew criticism from McGuinty's health minister after he rejected two nurses the province had offered to pay for, saying he was worried the city would eventually have to pick up the tab; the province has offered three more. Ford has not expressed an opinion on the second offer.

The relationship between Ford and McGuinty is strained. In March, Ford, a Conservative, threatened to sic “Ford Nation” on McGuinty in the upcoming election if he did not provide more money to Toronto. The Liberals, meanwhile, are planning to attempt to use Ford's perceived struggles against Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak during the campaign.

Ford characterized the meeting as a “very, very good, positive conversation.” McGuinty called it “cordial, civil, productive.”

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He just wants his pet project to go ahead.

And probably can't find any private company stupid enough to partner with him.

Because his name is mud with the populous if he can't deliver what he promised, which he can't.

So the residents of Sheppard ( myself included) are screwed as much as the poor sods on finch west.

Of course, it was obvious the day he was elected. We'll be lucky if he can afford the artic buses we'll all be riding for the next 20 years as a poor substitute.

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So the residents of Sheppard ( myself included) are screwed as much as the poor sods on finch west.

Actually, Finch West is still worse off. Think about it. They have gone from LRT to BRT to no improvements to possible cutbacks in a single year. All the while, every last spare transit nickle and dime and possibly even a few that can't be spared from other areas must be thrown at the Sheppard line.

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Actually, Finch West is still worse off. Think about it. They have gone from LRT to BRT to no improvements to possible cutbacks in a single year. All the while, every last spare transit nickle and dime and possibly even a few that can't be spared from other areas must be thrown at the Sheppard line.
Finch West at least does have a single subway station under construction at Keele. It seems unlikely that any construction on Sheppard will happen anytime soon ... and they've even lost their SRT station near Markham Road.
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Finch West at least does have a single subway station under construction at Keele. It seems unlikely that any construction on Sheppard will happen anytime soon ... and they've even lost their SRT station near Markham Road.

Hm, good point. Of course, I'm wondering why Ford is still treating the Sheppard line as an all or nothing affair rather than doing the tactical move of first trying to get the line extended to Victoria Park to claim partial victory.

Mind you, just to drag this back on topic, my biggest concern out of all of this is that Ford will forget to ask Hudak for guarantees regarding funding for the Eglinton line with all of this emphasis on Sheppard.

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Mind you, just to drag this back on topic, my biggest concern out of all of this is that Ford will forget to ask Hudak for guarantees regarding funding for the Eglinton line with all of this emphasis on Sheppard.
Not only might he forget, that might be part of his plan.

The Conservative transportation critic - former Harris cabinet minister Frank Klees - said today ""It's not for the province, contrary to the way the McGuinty government has been conducting itself, to impose its vision on the people of Toronto" ... which sounds to me that they fully intend to interfere with Eglinton if elected. See CBC article - http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/stor...-subway548.html

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Not only might he forget, that might be part of his plan.

The Conservative transportation critic - former Harris cabinet minister Frank Klees - said today ""It's not for the province, contrary to the way the McGuinty government has been conducting itself, to impose its vision on the people of Toronto" ... which sounds to me that they fully intend to interfere with Eglinton if elected. See CBC article - http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/stor...-subway548.html

You know, as much as I don't like McGuinty, the conservatives are doing a good job so far of trying to get him reelected. Seriously, if this turns into Eglinton vs Sheppard again, they are going to get pounded in the city this fall.

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Hm, good point. Of course, I'm wondering why Ford is still treating the Sheppard line as an all or nothing affair rather than doing the tactical move of first trying to get the line extended to Victoria Park to claim partial victory.

I don't see how extending the subway a mere 2 kms further east is any sort of victory. The LRT line was already going to be underground til Consumers. As much as it may pain some people to hear, it's better to build the entire extension to Scarborough Town Centre in one shot. If anything, the western extension to Downsview can be postponed until later. That would substantially shrink the pricetag from $4.7 billion to under $3 billion. Between the Provincial $650 million (stop playing games Dalton), Federal $333 million, some portion of the Build Canada PTF monies, whatever private sector connections Ford can find, and some creative taxation schemes whereby the City borrows against future tax revenues - there's no way that the subway cannot be built. This leads me to suspect that people would rather toss around blame and see Ford fail – which in effect delays a Sheppard subway indefinitely - than support ensuring that at least one segment of the City has an easier daily commute.

Mind you, just to drag this back on topic, my biggest concern out of all of this is that Ford will forget to ask Hudak for guarantees regarding funding for the Eglinton line with all of this emphasis on Sheppard.

Didn’t Hudak pledge $35 billion in roads and transit improvements? If most of the money that was slated to go towards the Transit City plan in entirety (estimated $12 billion) is reallocated solely to Sheppard and Eglinton-Scarborough, in an ideal scenario both would be built, not either or.

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There was an article in the STAR today about what will happen when the SRT is shut down.

They are trying to develop a shuttle bus plan of some sort. But without enough buses to meet demand now, what the heck are we going to do then? Not to mention all of the extra ones we need for street car shuttles.

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