Orion V Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Might as well wait for Line 6 and do a double opening while closing Line 3 at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 21 hours ago, Orion V said: Might as well wait for Line 6 and do a double opening while closing Line 3 at the same time. If Line 6 winds up opening before Line 5 will they need to renumber them? (Not sure if I'm being sarcastic here!) Or will Metrolinx manufacture a delay to ensure they are opened sequentially seeing as all the signage has essentially been finalized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ber Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Gil said: If Line 6 winds up opening before Line 5 will they need to renumber them? (Not sure if I'm being sarcastic here!) Or will Metrolinx manufacture a delay to ensure they are opened sequentially seeing as all the signage has essentially been finalized? no way theyll renumber regardless of timing. the marketing is all there and as youve said the signage... dates dont affect the designations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2044 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Gil said: If Line 6 winds up opening before Line 5 will they need to renumber them? (Not sure if I'm being sarcastic here!) Or will Metrolinx manufacture a delay to ensure they are opened sequentially seeing as all the signage has essentially been finalized? Won’t be any point. We won’t have a Line 3 for a few years, either. Presumably that will be assigned to the Ontario Line when it opens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, 2044 said: Won’t be any point. We won’t have a Line 3 for a few years, either. Presumably that will be assigned to the Ontario Line when it opens. Let's hope they will reuse Line 3 for the Ontario Line unlike STM where they just skipped it with its spiritual successor REM not having a Line number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2044 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, Orion V said: Let's hope they will reuse Line 3 for the Ontario Line unlike STM where they just skipped it with its spiritual successor REM not having a Line number. TTC’s design team seems to indicate that’s the plan. But who know, the Province might make their own decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 According to this blogTO article, these TBM's have been digging since spring and have made almost 1.5km of tunneling progress. Thats not a lot of progress for 6 months of work. https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/10/crosstown-extension-makes-swift-progress-toronto-waits-first-phase-open/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shaun said: According to this blogTO article, these TBM's have been digging since spring and have made almost 1.5km of tunneling progress. Thats not a lot of progress for 6 months of work. https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/10/crosstown-extension-makes-swift-progress-toronto-waits-first-phase-open/ 1582m + 865m = 2445m or almost 2.5km not too bad. Total tunnel length for each tunnel is 5.4km so they are done almost 25% of the tunnel. If this pace continues tunnels will be done by the end of 2024. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Mike said: 1582m + 865m = 2445m or almost 2.5km not too bad. Total tunnel length for each tunnel is 5.4km so they are done almost 25% of the tunnel. If this pace continues tunnels will be done by the end of 2024. That's about 10m per day. Really? That's considered good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, Shaun said: That's about 10m per day. Really? That's considered good? Have you ever thought to do the very slightest bit of research before vomiting out another of your hot takes? 15m/day is considered good progress. TBMs generally start out slow, and then improve as everyone gets uses to their operation, meaning that the average speed starts out slow, and then builds up as they complete their work. So to have an average of 10m/day so early on is quite good, yes. Dan 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 There's no 'credible plan' to complete the Eglinton Crosstown LRT, confidential documents say Well, I guess that does explain why Metrolinx hasn't been forthcoming with a revised opening date. If they themselves don't have one, they can't provide one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAmissions1 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, Wayside Observer said: There's no 'credible plan' to complete the Eglinton Crosstown LRT, confidential documents say Well, I guess that does explain why Metrolinx hasn't been forthcoming with a revised opening date. If they themselves don't have one, they can't provide one. Especially when it has gone over budget by $1 billion dollars so far. To a total of $12.81 billion dollars and counting. Along with one of the companies in the consortium in financial trouble. It is going to be an uphill battle to maintain progress and budget without more issues. Metrolinx really handling the situation poorly and trying to avoid the true state of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 Yeah I read that earlier, that just leaves me speechless... What a fustercluck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 Phew, I'm glad the fate of our upcoming transit expansion projects doesn't also lay in the hands of these bozos. Oh... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 What you mean they are clueless. They were on their high horse silently calling the TTC stupid and they have a better way to deliver these projects. They took the LRT planning off the TTC engineer's hands cause they knew better. Look the the Relief became Ontario Line. ML is the "expert" with no actual experience of opening a subway line. Cities who have subways already don't take 12+ years to build one line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 Maybe a year ago or so, one of my friends asked if Metrolinx has ever opened a new line. I almost said no, that what they're operating now is all inherited from Go Transit, but then I remembered UP Express. Even that's a bunch of station renovations plus a short stub off an existing railway line plus an order of DMU cars to run the service with, so how much of a new line is it really? And despite that, it's still been a debacle that Steve Munro's covered extensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 12 hours ago, T3G said: Phew, I'm glad the fate of our upcoming transit expansion projects doesn't also lay in the hands of these bozos. Oh... I'm dreading the time when the Eglinton east LRT extension starts, east of Kennedy, then on Kingston and Morningside. But with the Ontario Line and Scarborough Subway extension that probably won't start for a decade. I honestly may have to move out of here by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lip Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, MK78 said: I'm dreading the time when the Eglinton east LRT extension starts, east of Kennedy, then on Kingston and Morningside. But with the Ontario Line and Scarborough Subway extension that probably won't start for a decade. I honestly may have to move out of here by then. Dont worry, it's not happening anytime soon. The city has no funding for it, and as long as John Tory is mayor nothing will change on that front. The Waterfront East LRT is ahead of it in priority, so it's supposed to get built first. So as long as you dont see construction on the Waterfront line, you'll never have to worry about the Eglinton East line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRD10 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 hours ago, MK78 said: I'm dreading the time when the Eglinton east LRT extension starts, east of Kennedy, then on Kingston and Morningside. But with the Ontario Line and Scarborough Subway extension that probably won't start for a decade. I honestly may have to move out of here by then. Eglinton East LRT will never be built, the BRT Lite they have going on is mildly superior as concluded by the TTC in a report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, MRD10 said: Eglinton East LRT will never be built, the BRT Lite they have going on is mildly superior as concluded by the TTC in a report. Good to hear. The bus lane priority is a little bit of a pain in the ass at times, but still better than enduring 10 years of construction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4094 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 19 hours ago, Wayside Observer said: There's no 'credible plan' to complete the Eglinton Crosstown LRT, confidential documents say Well, I guess that does explain why Metrolinx hasn't been forthcoming with a revised opening date. If they themselves don't have one, they can't provide one. What a joke. Here we are, parts of the line looking near completion after over a decade of construction, and still, no end in sight. Well, it's no wonder why nobody takes Metrolinx seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, MK78 said: Good to hear. The bus lane priority is a little bit of a pain in the ass at times, but still better than enduring 10 years of construction. I know Metrolinx is a textbook example of incompetence, but surely even in their wildest dreams an overground tram line should not take 10 years to build. Substantial construction work on Finch West began only in quarter 2 of 2019. That being said, utilities relocation began in 2016, and the contract to build the line itself wasn't awarded for another 2 years afterwards, so take away from that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRD10 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, T3G said: Substantial construction work on Finch West began only in quarter 2 of 2019. That being said, utilities relocation began in 2016, and the contract to build the line itself wasn't awarded for another 2 years afterwards, so take away from that what you will. It is so surprising how Finch West LRT is progressing so rapidly and efficiently! I know Metrolinx would never allow this, but Finch West could very well be ready and open before Crosstown! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, MRD10 said: It is so surprising how Finch West LRT is progressing so rapidly and efficiently! I know Metrolinx would never allow this, but Finch West could very well be ready and open before Crosstown! It shouldn't be too surprising. The above-ground portion of the Eglinton Crosstown line seems to be fully complete (and has been for a while) despite starting construction well after the tunnelling started, despite both sections being built by the same (apparently incompetent) companies. Surface operation is so much less complicated to construct compared to underground or even elevated structures; therefore, it's both faster and cheaper to build. That's the whole reason why the Eglinton West extension was supposed to be above-ground, where there was room to accommodate it within the existing corridor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just to let you guys know...line5 eglinton LRT is scheduled to open in July 2023, training of operators is scheduled to start for Jan 2023, but there hasn't been any notices of such. They have 150 ops on the transfer list, but some of them have retired or are retiring before then. They want 55 more ops for the line. Vacation sign up for the line has already occurred. Basically it's a big cluster fuck right now. TTC rail instructors have already gotten their training for the most part, but they didn't have full access to the line since Metrolinx didn't allow them in the central section (still considered a mining/construction operation). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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