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Kit Kat

Fredericton Transit update.

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Hey everyone. As an update, Fredericton Transit has at least one brand new LFS, numbered 8131. Not sure what bus it's replacing and I unfortunately didn't have the chance to take a picture of it.

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Hey everyone. As an update, Fredericton Transit has at least one brand new LFS, numbered 8131. Not sure what bus it's replacing and I unfortunately didn't have the chance to take a picture of it.

When did they acquire that?

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When did they acquire that?

I just looked at the budget for this year, and they have a 5 year lease on one new 40ft bus. In addition, it looks like they are going to be buying two 25ft buses to replace 8921 (unless I misread it...)

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Not Fredericton Transit related, but still bus related. I was told today that Maritime Bus's new terminal is on Dundonald Street, where the Enterprise (?) car rentals used to be, by Quiznos. Regardless of whatever mistakes MB has made in the past, they made a good move by moving their depot to a central downtown location instead of up at the top of Hanwell where Acadian Lines was located.

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Hi all, new Fredericton-based member here. In the 6 months that I've been using the buses, I've never seen 8921. Its wiki page states that it is retired, so it's probably safe to say that is true. Fredericton's page still states it as active, so that should probably be updated. (I would do it myself, but I don't have the rights.)

This sadly leaves Fredericton with only two Classics, 8941 and 8961. I had the opportunity to ride 8961 a couple of days ago. Aside from a heavily-vandalized internal engine compartment cover, it looks good. I last rode 8941 a month or so ago.

Most, if not all of the RTS buses are still in service. This week I rode 8982 and 8021. Between September and December I rode 8981, 8983, and 8992.

Trent

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Hey Maritime Man!

I was just in Fredericton the other day. My brother is a recently retired FT driver. Welcome. :)

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Thank you Kitpu!

I got to ride 8941 this morning, still looks good and the 6V92 sounds as good as ever. As luck would have it, I decided to have my sound recorder running in my bookbag on the off chance I caught an older bus, but unfortunately my microphone settings were wrong, and it sounds like crap. Would've been good too since there weren't many people on and I sat in the very back. Maybe next time. :P

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I've seen 8921 a few times, but the last time I saw it was last summer. It might've been retired since then, as there were issues with the stop signal not working properly I believe.

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I'd think a minor issue like that would be a simple, no-nonsense fix, compared to if, say, the frame was rotting away. They've fitted at least one of the RTS's with an electronic replacement bell, after all. I suppose they'll welcome anything as an excuse to retire an older bus, though.

Speaking of the RTS's, I spotted 8981 today, so the oldest one is still in check as of 2014. I've only ever been on it once, and I'd like to get on it again so I try signaling via the tape. :P

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I went to Kings Place today and spotted 8982, 8983, 8984, and 8991. This was in the late afternoon, so it's nice to see they'll still run the older buses, even when they have enough of the newer ones to cover everything. Now, if I can find 8013 and 8014, that will be every RTS accounted for. Which is surprising considering they allegedly wanted to begin retiring the RTS's years ago.

Edit: I realized I'm starting to track the Classics and RTSs here. I'm just posting them as a sort of confirmation of the validity of the roster on the Wiki, and I hope it hasn't bothered anyone. I think I'll make a Fredericton Transit Classic and RTS tracking thread, so I can post this sort of stuff there instead.

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I believe the older buses get run during the hours in the day where the routes run every half an hour.

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I figured they had enough LFS's to cover the half-hour run, but I guess not if there's two buses on each route at that time.

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The other day I saw for the first time a cutaway van numbered 8122. Anyone know what it's used for?

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Have a look at this. CBC News on the counterfeiting of FT passes:

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...rfeit-1.2566346

Hopefully they're correct in assuming that it's unlikely to happen much, if at all. I remember a fellow rider and friend of mine once telling me that he could probably fake a pass if he wanted to. I notice that the new pass design which debuted a few months ago doesn't appear to have the "COPY" that comes out in photocopies like the previous design did. Or maybe it's there and even more conspicuous.

What I find as interesting as the article itself is the comments on it. It seems a LOT of people are quite disgruntled with FT in general. I've never had any sort of problem with their service, although then again FT is the first and only public transit service I've ever used, so I have nothing else to compare them to. :P

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They had a HUGE problem with that in Halifax a while ago... To the point where students couldn't board the bus with their student passes unless they had their student ID.

The poll on that article is hilarious. The picture tells you which pass is the copy, and the poll asks you "Which one is the copy?"

As for spending $700,000 on readers... I'm skeptical that it will happen. They were supposed to do a number of things that didn't end up getting done. Prime example is that the buses were all supposed to be outfitted with WiFi. They may all have it now, but when I left, one or two buses had it, and it was password protected. And the drivers didn't know the password.

I don't think FT has any more problems than any other bus service. A lot of people in Fredericton think FT should be run similar to bigger transit systems, which isn't going to happen in a smaller city with a smaller budget. The only thing I would like to see change is at least a minimal service on Sundays. A lot of complaints are about times of service, but there needs to be ridership. The Two Nations Crossing bus didn't pan out because there was no ridership, yet folks complained when the route had to be scrapped.

But, in my eleven years of living in transit and taking the bus daily, I've never been on a bus that didn't make it to their destination on time give or take a few minutes, assuming there was no bad weather that day or accidents along the way. Most of the drivers have been relatively friendly as well. Since moving to Halifax, I've met many drivers who were not so friendly or professional. I had one driver who was screaming obscenities at a passing car. Another time, I was running toward the bus stop in a snowstorm. The bus passes me to go to the bus stop a half a block ahead of me, and didn't stop or wait for me, and pulled away just as I reached the bus stop. And if I were to take the bus to Bayer's Lake, about a 15 minute drive from my apartment, it would take me about two hours to get there because of the transfers along the route. So considering all that, I think Frederictonians have it rather well.

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They didn't point out which pass was fake until today. They kept it a secret for the poll. :P

I agree with just about everything you said. They believe pass counterfeiting isn't a problem (which is hopefully true), so I doubt they would put out the expense for electronic readers. And if there is Wi-Fi, I wouldn't know. I'd never make use of it, anyway. Same, I've found the buses are rarely more than 3 or 4 minutes late, and never early (which would be more inconvenient), and I've found most of the drivers to be friendly, and helpful. On more than one occasion, I've gone outside just as the bus is departing the stop, and the driver (there must be at least a few who recognize me by now) stopped again well past the stop so I could get on. ^_^

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Someone pointed out in the comments that there are more people getting free rides by boarding the buses while the drivers are in Kings Place, and that's absolutely true. But like I said, if folks in Fredericton want to complain about Transit, they are more than welcome to try out the transit in a bigger city, where fares are a bit higher, it takes much longer to get from A to B, some of the drivers aren't as friendly, and if they see the bus departing they may as well sit down and wait for the next because that bus isn't stopping.

Most of the bus drivers there will recognize a regular face. One of the perks of a smaller city. :)

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Rather surprising, I rode 8013 this morning! One member had not seen either 8013 or 8014 since the summer time, I had never seen them in the 6 months I've been using the buses, and another member said here that they were the "most problematic" of the RTS buses, so, I figured they were both retired. But alas, 8013 seems to have risen from the shadows. I spotted it again this afternoon, as well.

It looked, rode, and sounded quite all right. However, there was a frequent squeak audible both inside and outside the bus - perhaps the steering. It's also notable that 8013 still has the tape, joining 8981 as the only RTS's that have not been converted to the cord.

If I can find 8014, that will be every RTS FT ever bought accounted for.

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Just a reminder that 8921 needs to be moved to the Retired section of the wiki page. I would do it myself, but I have yet to be approved as a wiki editor. I suppose I don't have the credentials to be approved, being a new member and all.

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I rode 8014 this morning! It too has seemingly risen from the dead like 8013. That means every RTS Fredericton ever bought is still in service as of April 2014, which is nice. ^_^

8014 looks, sounds, and rides just fine. It also still has the tape to call a stop, joining 8013 and 8981 as the only ones that do (I'm assuming, anyway - I actually have yet to ride 8984, so I have no clue about that one). 8014 has also been retrofitted with an electronic bell.

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A while ago I was reading that Fredericton planned on getting a couple of artics. Does anyone know anything about that?

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The other day I saw for the first time a cutaway van numbered 8122. Anyone know what it's used for?

It is one of the 3 city's wheelchair buses. 8074 and 8113 being the others.

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