Winnipeg Transit and area

[jhood135]

On 7/21/2022 at 8:26 PM, SidneyTransitfan said:

I'm in Winnipeg for the next few days. Today was a bit warm but I did manage to record a few bus rides this afternoon.

 

Is there a way to track buses bybtheir fleet numbers, like on Transit55 or TCOMM-bustrainferry? I did find transsee but it's incredibly clunky and is only really helpful to see which buses are coming to your closest stop.

 

I'm hoping to track down some of the 1995 D40LFs and the ex. OC Transpo artics tomorrow, and any remaining D30LFs.

The new Winnipeg Transit app has the ability to put in a Fleet number and see where it is on the system.

[ConnorsCompShow]

With respect to the welcome infusion of new capital by the feds, it would absolutely not be a major surprise to see additional diesels come in first well before electric/hydrogen, and that's even after taking supply chain trends of long lead times/delay after delay after delay into account. The harsh reality is that there is a sizeable chunk of fleet that is either at/above the 20 year mark or will soon hit it by the time any new iron is delivered. Diesel infrastructure is well established already, whereas with electric/hydrogen, some portion of that capital is going to have to go towards putting charging infrastructure into place, whether it's at major terminals like R20 and the 4 demo electrics that had a charger put up at the airport, or working it into a complete replacement of NG if FRG/BG can't support it (or Hydro's grid in the immediate area is unable to), or some blend of the two. That brings its own set of risks of being held up along the way, and if Transit were to go start hitting more of the 500s over the head anyway like they have been with the Ottawa D60LFs, they'll have major problems. The D30LFs for ORT and the low-ridership fixed routes in particular are quite the liability as well.

The easy way out of that would be one or two additional round of diesels. One round being the XD60s that were supposed to come in to replace the Ottawa D60LFs that they've already started hitting over the head despite just 1 batch of XD60s having come in and put to work even before BLUE. The other being another set of XD40s to ensure there's no immediate capacity shortfall while all the details of implementing ZEBs are worked out, to allow for retirements of the 500s with minimal operational disruption.

Believe me, it is important with this capital infusion that the ball should get rolling on ZEBs, though it's going to take a considerable amount of time. And just like a real snowball, it'll be pretty small at first until it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. Because eventually, whether it be through a federal mandate banning them by a certain model year or manufacturers giving up on them because of a lack of interest (or mandates in other areas), getting a diesel will be damn near if not impossible.

[cslusarc]

I personally think if Winnipeg Transit needs some Zero Emission Busses, it should look coverting the busiest 10% of its route network to trolley busses.

[MMP15]

The most exciting pet of the announcement was the $20M for the required infrastructure to modernize the route network. Electric buses are a nice to have, but let’s solve our core problems first (Winnipeg Transit Master Plan - route network, all door boarding, prepaid fares (at stations or on mobile), etc.). Then let’s talk about electrification.

Just my opinion, but I am heavily involved in the design/manufacture process of electric vehicles (and love it), but WT is still at least 3-5 years away from justifying them. 

[Isaac Williams]

Say hello to Winnipeg's newest bus... 387R! Yeah, somebody at Winnipeg Transit made a pretty big typo, lmao (it actually had 814(?)).

[Mark Walton]

On 8/2/2022 at 6:38 PM, Isaac Williams said:

Say hello to Winnipeg's newest bus... 387R! Yeah, somebody at Winnipeg Transit made a pretty big typo, lmao (it actually had 814(?)).

What if anything does the R signify?

[Isaac Williams]

2 hours ago, Mark Walton said:

What if anything does the R signify?

Absolutely nothing at all. Just a weird error.

[Viafreak]

I wonder why Transit doesn't have as many ads inside the buses these days. When I started riding transit back in 2011, there were a lot more ads inside the buses. Nowadays, you just see the occasional PSA.

[T6H-5307N]

1 hour ago, Viafreak said:

I wonder why Transit doesn't have as many ads inside the buses these days. When I started riding transit back in 2011, there were a lot more ads inside the buses. Nowadays, you just see the occasional PSA.

I've noticed the same trend in Edmonton as well as a handful of agencies I have visited over the past year. My best guess is in the day and age where most people riding buses are staring at phones etc. rather than looking around, advertising companies might be responding by directing more money at online advertising rather than the more-traditional means. That and with ridership still recovering from the pandemic, not as many people are on transit vehicles to see the ads anyway.

[Isaac Williams]

The Fall 2022 schedule has now finally been published on the Winnipeg Transit website.

[martin607]

On 7/25/2022 at 2:32 AM, cslusarc said:

I personally think if Winnipeg Transit needs some Zero Emission Busses, it should look coverting the busiest 10% of its route network to trolley busses.

Given Winnipeg's climate, that would certainly make sense, using trolleybuses with small batteries and the concept of In Motion Charging. It would mean only 50% of routes would need wiring and using mains electrification would avoid the winter range problems that pure battery buses have been facing elsewhere, e.g. in Boston where on the coldest winter days the daily range of the trial BEBs dropped to 50%.

[Isaac Williams]

If anyone wants to see a summary of what's new for the upcoming schedule change, you can check out the link below. I can't guarantee every notable change is in here, but I got as much as I could.
https://www.wtlivewpg.com/Pages/Tracker/SchCng2022-09-04

[ConnorsCompShow]

Good riddance to SB Pembina/Kelsey, but I dunno about EB Portage/Lake. They ought to get rid of EB Portage/Olive that's for sure.

[SirAndrew710]

26 minutes ago, ConnorsCompShow said:

Good riddance to SB Pembina/Kelsey, but I dunno about EB Portage/Lake. They ought to get rid of EB Portage/Olive that's for sure.

Lake is one I’ve seen used a few times, but it’s in the right-turn lane from EB Portage to SB Moray, which is problematic because a stopped bus could block right-turn traffic. There’s a stop a block back (at Windham) that’s less than 200 meters away. I don’t know why the Olive stop still exists either.

[NFIBUSES_are_awsome]

Since Winnipeg transit made there new website I can’t find the school charter route maps/ times does anyone know where I can find them?

[Isaac Williams]

If you go into My Settings, and turn on "Include school routes in results?", School Charters should show up when you click on stops on the map.

[Isaac Williams]

New routing changes have been proposed for a few routes for the Winter schedule (December 11th), the most interesting being the 87 and 93. They want to split the 87 into two routes - the 86 Mission Gardens (Northern Branch) and 87 Industrial (Southern Branch). Other than that, they'll (probably) operate the same way they do now. The 93 is to be extended to Avalon Loop and have it's routing in South St. Vital changed significantly. There are also minor changes to the 45, 98 and BLUE.
https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/ViewDoc.asp?DocId=22197

 
 

[matt548]

53 minutes ago, Isaac Williams said:

New routing changes have been proposed for a few routes for the Winter schedule, the most interesting being the 87 and 93. They want to split the 87 into two routes - the 86 and 87. Other than that, they'll (probably) operate the same way they do now. The 93 is to be extended to Avalon Loop and have it's routing in South St. Vital changed significantly.
https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/ViewDoc.asp?DocId=22197

 
 

Those are pretty good changes! 

On a side note, this is the 3rd completely different route 86

[cslusarc]

I like this transit priority u-turn signal — allowing busses to perform a u-turn from the rightmost lane.

[ConnorsCompShow]

Late addition onto next week's IRPW from the Lord Selkirk/West Kildonan committee, apparently there's a proposal for a fare-free day on the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation (9/30). Estimated pocketbook hit of $120,000 if implemented. Guess we'll see if it survives beyond IRPW or not.

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/permalink.asp?id=A20220907(RM)PW-57

[Isaac Williams]

32 minutes ago, ConnorsCompShow said:

Late addition onto next week's IRPW from the Lord Selkirk/West Kildonan committee, apparently there's a proposal for a fare-free day on the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation (9/30). Estimated pocketbook hit of $120,000 if implemented. Guess we'll see if it survives beyond IRPW or not.

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/permalink.asp?id=A20220907(RM)PW-57

It seems transit will be running regular weekday service on that day too. So I'll definitely be one to take advantage of it, if it gets approved.

[Isaac Williams]

On 8/27/2022 at 7:52 PM, ConnorsCompShow said:

Good riddance to SB Pembina/Kelsey, but I dunno about EB Portage/Lake. They ought to get rid of EB Portage/Olive that's for sure.

Another example of stops being too close together is WB Inkster at Sinclair and WB Inkster at Sinclair East (both of which are on the east side of Sinclair). Google Maps measures them to be approximately 71 meters apart. For context, both stops around EB Portage at Olive are approximately 100 meters away from it.

[ConnorsCompShow]

On 9/2/2022 at 9:49 PM, ConnorsCompShow said:

Late addition onto next week's IRPW from the Lord Selkirk/West Kildonan committee, apparently there's a proposal for a fare-free day on the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation (9/30). Estimated pocketbook hit of $120,000 if implemented. Guess we'll see if it survives beyond IRPW or not.

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/permalink.asp?id=A20220907(RM)PW-57

It has survived IRPW unanimously and moves on to council as a whole. There were some thoughts of offering free rides only during a specific time window, but that was written off for practicality reasons, though Sharma challenged Bjorn Radstrom on the New Year's Eve 7:00 PM-end of service free rides, Bjorn's defense after he was hung for a few seconds was that NYE isn't about any one specific event whereas free rides on NT&RD would be primarily in support of the Survivors Walk and a pow-wow to follow. Greg the director when asked by Allard about had his memory tested trying to remember the value of the NYE sponsorship that is fronted by MPI (after Browaty brought up that the NYE program is subsidized by a sponsor) but figures it was ~$14,000. Bjorn elaborated that the ~$120K was the high-end estimated pocketbook hit. Browaty had objections to the lack of an identified funding source and urged "I am putting it out there to anybody who's watching on TV or at home, anybody who would like to sponsor this, either in full or in part" but was willing to vote in favor for now.

Blooper: Markus Chambers accidentally thought he was sitting next to Janice Lukes.

[Isaac Williams]

As some of you may know, pass-up information is publicly available. I've created an app that can interpret that data. I thought some of you might be interested to see what pass-ups have been like over the past week (since September 4th), now that the U of M is finally back in full-swing.

[matt548]

4 hours ago, Isaac Williams said:

As some of you may know, pass-up information is publicly available. I've created an app that can interpret that data. I thought some of you might be interested to see what pass-ups have been like over the past week (since September 4th), now that the U of M is finally back in full-swing.

Why is 78 so low but 75 so high?