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Transit could’ve started preparing a plan for going back to regular service as soon as the province released its plan for reopening and yet they cut service back on the same day phase one of the reopening approaches came into effect, perhaps to start things such as monitoring ridership more closely and take any complaints seriously, as well as a phased approach as I’ve mentioned like problematic routes get their service back while some routes remain in the reduced service. 
I also question what transit is going to do with all the laid off drivers they’ve recalled back, if it’s not for providing more service and they will only sit at the lounge waiting for their work you might as well keep them laid off rather then recalling them back with no clear intention, they also need to pay whoever they’ve laid off which is also draining their budget 

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I dare you to use that as an academic source for any sort of research or historical documentation. Seriously. I don't mean to be grumpy but can we please move past the hearsay and start posting usef

I don't know anything about 918 in particular but I have heard that Transit is considering retiring some of the D30LF's and cannibalizing them to keep the remaining units on the road.   911-925 (15

You are wrong. Put your transit fanning on hold and stay home.

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12 minutes ago, Thewinnipegtransitfanhuang said:

Transit could’ve started preparing a plan for going back to regular service as soon as the province released its plan for reopening and yet they cut service back on the same day phase one of the reopening approaches came into effect, perhaps to start things such as monitoring ridership more closely and take any complaints seriously, as well as a phased approach as I’ve mentioned like problematic routes get their service back while some routes remain in the reduced service. 

The only issue I see with that is that regular service on some routes - 21 especially - is insufficient for social distancing purposes. Usually, most of the seats are full by the time the inbound ones reach Whytewold, even, and taking it outbound, when you’re usually standing if you’re boarding anywhere west of Edmonton, you would not be able to socially distance. As @DavidW mentioned earlier, WT has long looked for excuses to cut costs, and this is the opportunity they’ve been waiting for. I’m kinda worried to see what post-pandemic service will look like.

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2 hours ago, Thewinnipegtransitfanhuang said:

Transit could’ve started preparing a plan for going back to regular service as soon as the province released its plan for reopening and yet they cut service back on the same day phase one of the reopening approaches came into effect, perhaps to start things such as monitoring ridership more closely and take any complaints seriously, as well as a phased approach as I’ve mentioned like problematic routes get their service back while some routes remain in the reduced service. 
I also question what transit is going to do with all the laid off drivers they’ve recalled back, if it’s not for providing more service and they will only sit at the lounge waiting for their work you might as well keep them laid off rather then recalling them back with no clear intention, they also need to pay whoever they’ve laid off which is also draining their budget 

If they were laid off u would be collecting EI so they wouldn’t be payed by the city for time of being laid off only from time they are back at work 

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It's straight up garbage that they aren't shifting some of the XD60s around. Or rather, that they didn't while they still could've, because yes, some BLUEs are pretty problematic now. Mostly the St. Norbert runs from what I've seen, UofMs aren't as terrible. They can respond "we're monitoring ridership levels and sending extra buses as needed" to people's images of overcrowding all they want, but these extra buses are going straight into /dev/null/ for all I know since they don't even show up on the online timetables, and because they don't show on the timetables, they sure as hell aren't going to show up on the electronic displays at the actual stops. What good is a bonus run if you don't even know there's a bonus run to begin with? And the times that I think I've seen a bonus run of a 47 Regent for example, it's literally right behind another 47 Regent at Harkness waiting to get out. 😒

It's pretty infuriating to see "Mayor Selfie" Bowman show up for a photo op with some Uber suit for what was effectively a soft paper launch turned hard because he just had to drag the media out, only for him to then say that this Jason Shaw character knows all when it comes to ramping service back up, and it's very clear that guy hasn't even so much as looked at any buses lately. Really comforting to know in case SHTF with something like a tornado.

The province could be making absolute bank right now with $2500 fines all over the place if they actually bothered to give municipalities a slapping and held them to the same standards as every other business, but no. Maybe then Shaw would actually be bothered to give a damn.

Some ideas for a partial ramp:

- XD60 a 11, 21, 22, 47, 66 run every now and again.

- Restore route 77 to most of its weekday service, at least to 8 PM (6 PM cutoffs at Garden City are pretty harsh on weekdays).

- Start to revert BLUE to more and more of its original weekday service

- Possibly discontinue the all-stops bit of expresses to better balance loads between local service and current "express" service

On 7/7/2020 at 3:22 PM, SirAndrew710 said:

Saw an 18 this morning that wasn’t showing the “Social Distancing” P/R, only “18 CORYDON… ASSINIBOINE PARK.” I’m guessing that drivers has come to the realization that we all have by now, that being that social distancing on mainline routes is impossible?

Some drivers went a little mutiny a bit before that. Others have taken to switching it up with the elusive "OPERATING SATURDAY SERVICE" instead.

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20 hours ago, DavidW said:

I'm worried there is a long lag between when ridership increases and when numbers are compiled and reported. It may be as bad as waiting to the end of the month before doing the statistical analysis.

This, combined with what is likely an absurd criteria for restoring service (probably with no consideration for social distancing), and Winnipeg Transit's laser focus on the balance sheet (completely ignoring any consideration of customer service) means it'll take a public revolt and a lot of screaming and yelling at them to get service restored...

That they're getting away with poor service (and layoffs) probably puts smiles on administrators' faces.

Functional Transit Winnipeg's current leader, Derek Koop,, has been either silent on this or just can't get the news coverage that its prior laader (Joe Kornelson) had. Just sayin.

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17 hours ago, ConnorsCompShow said:

Some drivers went a little mutiny a bit before that. Others have taken to switching it up with the elusive "OPERATING SATURDAY SERVICE" instead.

I’ve never seen that one, though since that initial post, I’ve seen buses on 21, 66, 79 and 98 without any P/R.

9 hours ago, ConnorsCompShow said:

Case in point this morning: 848 and 182 both tag teaming as 47 from Regent to U of M. BusTXT claims that 182 isn't on the road at all.

The 18 that wasn’t showing the social distancing P/R was the second of two that were tag-teaming, and there have been a couple occasions where I’ve seen two 21s back to back as well. I also saw 40-5, signed NIS, right behind a 21 this morning.

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8 hours ago, LilZebra said:

The bus oprator says there is only one run of the 23 and he is it.

Which I’m guessing is a legacy of Saturday service on the pre-April 2020 incarnation of Route 29, where three buses worked both branches (as the current version of the 29 still has two buses).

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On 7/9/2020 at 4:41 PM, SirAndrew710 said:

The 18 that wasn’t showing the social distancing P/R was the second of two that were tag-teaming, and there have been a couple occasions where I’ve seen two 21s back to back as well. I also saw 40-5, signed NIS, right behind a 21 this morning.

I saw at least three 18 runs that were tag teaming on Friday around 2:30pm. One of them was a 28-xx and another was a 25-xx. 

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How much longer can they go about with the current system of “fill runs” and tag-teaming before it makes more sense to go back to regular service? ‘Cause I bet that there are some runs on some routes (18 and 21 come to mind right away) that consistently need backup called in. Even on Sundays, where service is already poor, Route 11 seems to be suffering from the absence of Shoppers’ Specials, as I saw an 11 Kildonan filled to standing room only at Maryland yesterday and some of the 11 Portages I saw west of Polo looked pretty full as well (though Shoppers’ Specials wouldn’t help with that). Over the last week, the only routes I’ve seen buses with low passenger loads on are 2, 10, 66, 79, 82 and 98, and those routes don’t see high ridership anyway (note that I saw these 66s in Charleswood, Tuxedo and approaching Unicity, and passenger loads on that route generally tail off west of Kenaston).

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5 hours ago, LilZebra said:

But the electric trial is OVER, so moot. I thought they'd demolish those 3 buses by now.

994 and 998 are also still around. Here are some shots from Kernaghan Avenue (outside the NFL plant in Transcona) from June 6th. It looks like 997 has got a dealer plate on it.

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So apparently Winnipeg Transit's answer to the question "When will regular service be resumed?" is "The Provincial health officer policy is that taking transit is for essential travel only."

So essentially Winnipeg Transit claims their hands are tied by the province's medical officials.

It makes no sense, but it's City of Winnipeg's tradition to deflect responsibility...

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WT will be resuming regular service on August 4th. According to the release, “[a]s recommended by Manitoba Health, the City is welcoming all passengers to once again use Winnipeg Transit, and is also recommending the use of non-medical face masks while riding the bus or using Transit Plus.” I, for one, think this move is overdue, but as they say, “better late than never.” https://winnipegtransit.com/en/rider-guide/news/

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33 minutes ago, MMP15 said:

Curious to see if BLUE st Norbert busses will be 1:1 with u of m busses during rush hour (or 2:1). Seeing as u of m is largely vacant for the foreseeable future, there is more demand for st Norbert than u of m

If I recall correctly, during the spring change, it was 1:1 at rush hour, but 2 U of Ms for every St. Norbert during the mid-day (9 AM to 3 PM period), which is itself unnecessary when classes aren’t in session. During the spring and summer changes pre-Phase 2, the ratio on the 162 during the late morning was 1:1 whereas it was 2 or 3 U of Ms per St. Norbert during the fall and winter changes.

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Given that the UofM Fort Garry campus is not expected to fully reopen until January 2021 [at the earliest] there's probably a case to be made for summer-level service on UofM routes for the rest of 2020. 

That might especially affect BLUE (UofM branch), 36, 74, 75, 78, and maybe 60 and 47. 

I feel bad for Winnipeg Transit. After struggling for more than 40 years to build its first rapid transit line, the destination of that line more-or-less shuts down for nearly the line's whole first year of operation. 

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