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As someone who doesn’t use the Portage corridor that often, it is confusing to figure out which route I have to get on to get to certain places, at certain times of the day. I can’t wait for the day Portage becomes a Rapid Transit corridor, I personally think it’s the perfect candidate for LRT looking into best ways of growing ridership in the future, but I’ll settle with BRT over nothing.

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https://globalnews.ca/news/6449139/regional-transit-edmonton-capital-region/

https://www.edmonton.ca/documents/PDF/Accelerating_Transit_in_Edmonton_Metropolitan_Region.pdf

Creating a regional transit authority, just like Winnipeg is looking at right now is being put together. Edmonton, St. Albert and Strathcona and 13 other nearby municipalities to join their transit into one to eliminate overlapping of routes and will save $3.5 M per year for the government (provincial and municipal?).

They are naming it a Regional Transit Services Commission.

Knowing that when Calgary and Edmonton "sneeze", Winnipeg catches "the cold". similar to Winnipeg Metro Region, Edmonton Metro Region, Calgary Metro Region naming convention.

I'm hoping they call ours Metro Transit, as a nod to the old name from the 1960s.

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16 hours ago, jhood135 said:

As someone who doesn’t use the Portage corridor that often, it is confusing to figure out which route I have to get on to get to certain places, at certain times of the day. I can’t wait for the day Portage becomes a Rapid Transit corridor, I personally think it’s the perfect candidate for LRT looking into best ways of growing ridership in the future, but I’ll settle with BRT over nothing.

Some of the major stops have “route finders” posted at them to make figuring out which route to take a little easier, but they don’t mention branches, only routes. Simply put, the 11 doesn’t go past Polo when the 21 is running, and the 21 doesn’t go past the Grace when the 22 is running. Some of the other details (i.e. only the Westwood branch of the 11 and 21 goes into the Grace, only the St. Charles branch of the 11 and 21 go to Unicity but that branch of the 22 does not) are not as easy to remember. I was pondering whether getting rid of Westwood and Crestview and letting the 82 and 83 handle those areas would be a good idea, but the stops along Rouge are greater than 400 meters from the nearest 82 stop and service to the Safeway at Cavalier and Portage would also be lost.

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Yikes, this explainer from the CBC really doesn't sound that good at all. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-rapid-transit-analysis-1.5457171

In my opinion the whole 6 RT lines by 2030 vision put forward by Bowman wasn't ever viable. Especially not for Portage where it'd be glorified diamond lanes as it is today, which work just fine. At the TMP session at Kildonan Place a while back I spoke with Shawn Nason about what he thought about an eastern transitway, and if memory serves right, he said it'd be an okay idea, but took a Rand Paul like stance of "where's the money for it?". He does have a point though, especially with the back and forth going on between the province just to get general funding. The eastern study and the TMP were and still are two separate things, so here's to hoping that the eastern line does get built and that they just don't say "forget it, TMP is better". It's a shame that the original old St. Boniface idea was jettisoned because that's the best possible route, hug the CN line elevated off the ground, either keep hugging next to it or replace Thomas Ave, then hug CEMR out to Transcona Blvd. If anything, as long as it got built to either Peguis (forgetting about a "Costco Station"), or to one of the overflow Club Regent lots or Owen, I'd be happy, because Regent afterwards is just like Portage where everything is fine. So fine in fact, that the diamond lanes that were there previously were discontinued.

At the same time the Louise is in dire need of replacing, so it'd be a perfect catalyst to kill two birds with one stone. Something that could make both the car and bus experience better at the same time would be something a lot of people would be happy to get behind.

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^^^

Bartley is well-known in these circles to be anti-rail and pro-BRT. Maybe he has some vested interest in the project. Or he just likes buses.

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12 hours ago, LilZebra said:

^^^

Bartley is well-known in these circles to be anti-rail and pro-BRT. Maybe he has some vested interest in the project. Or he just likes buses.

Bartley's biases aside there is an overwhelming belief in Winnipeg and Manitoba that Winnipeg is very small town. The modern advances made in other cities are just not possible here. (Even though Edmonton was 450,000 in 1974 when the LRT decision was made there).

The decision makers long ago decided LRT was crazy talk for Winnipeg, and it wouldn't surprise me if even busways are now being dismissed as more "crazy talk".

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And to add to that, Winnipeg was once considered  "the Chicago of the North" between the 1880s and 1912. Soon after was WW I and then the 1930s Depression.

Winnipeg lost her way and it wasn't until Lakeview Sq. and the Convention Centre (1970-1974), the Manitoba Centennial Centre (1968-1970), Richardson Bldg. (1969) period that we took a bite out of modern city living.

Winnipeg's first Express bus route (Portage) began in  November 1957, tweaked in '60 along with introduction of the Ness Exp. After that, besides the "green" McPhillips Exp (when?) another "green" Portage Exp., Winnipeg didn't get more Express bus routes until the 1980s (Grant, Osborne/Dakota, McMeans, Southdale...).

That was considered "big city" stuff.

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Had it not been for the Panama Canal, Winnipeg would have been on par with at least Montréal or Vancouver.

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14 hours ago, Bus_Medic said:

Had it not been for the Panama Canal, Winnipeg would have been on par with at least Montréal or Vancouver.

Too bad all of Winnipeg isn't a free-trade zone... the city could really use the investments.

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While on board 630 this afternoon I noticed that the route information (“Route 25 to Unicity, via Polo Park”) was played through the speakers on the bus rather than through the exterior speaker over the door. This isn’t the only bus that’s like that, I’ve noticed this on 635 and 273 as well, with the latter case being unusual because none of the D40LFs have exterior speakers. Does anyone know what causes this phenomenon to occur?

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I've noticed that too on recent rides that everytime the front door opens I can hear the destination announcement every single time.

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On 1/31/2020 at 2:30 PM, jhood135 said:

I understand (somewhat) if the ads cover the windows. I don't understand if the wraps are cut around the windows. No other city has made this decision - Translink in Vancouver just spent tons of money wrapping all their new artics in a RapidBus livery. Would that have been banned in Winnipeg under this new rule?

Mississauga was the first to kibosh ad wraps over the windows, for those reasons.

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http://www.atu1505.ca/index.cfm?action=article&articleID=C451E124-6979-4BFD-9EC0-EF88BC0DD9ED

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-transit-surplus-budget-spending-1.5462928

The Transit Union is calling for any and all Transit surplus funds be reinvested back into equipment and more frequent services. Saw a very brief news item tonight on the 6 pm CBC Manitoba newscast. The cumulative surplus since 2009 is $180 million.

Are they saving up for rapid transit subway or something? Why not put this back into WT service?

 “We’re hearing on a daily basis from our members and our riders that Winnipeg Transit is not meeting the needs of a growing city,” said Romeo Ignacio, President of the Amalgamated Transit Union 1505. “With the City proposing to cut from a system that is already on life support, it is incredibly disheartening to hear that only $25.7 million from a ten year surplus of $180.2 million was actually used within Winnipeg Transit.”

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49 minutes ago, LilZebra said:

http://www.atu1505.ca/index.cfm?action=article&articleID=C451E124-6979-4BFD-9EC0-EF88BC0DD9ED

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-transit-surplus-budget-spending-1.5462928

The Transit Union is calling for any and all Transit surplus funds be reinvested back into equipment and more frequent services. Saw a very brief news item tonight on the 6 pm CBC Manitoba newscast. The cumulative surplus since 2009 is $180 million.

Are they saving up for rapid transit subway or something? Why not put this back into WT service?

 “We’re hearing on a daily basis from our members and our riders that Winnipeg Transit is not meeting the needs of a growing city,” said Romeo Ignacio, President of the Amalgamated Transit Union 1505. “With the City proposing to cut from a system that is already on life support, it is incredibly disheartening to hear that only $25.7 million from a ten year surplus of $180.2 million was actually used within Winnipeg Transit.”

Corruption much? 

No wonder service never improves... where does this money disappear to? They should do a full audit.

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Remember that Transit receives an operating subsidy every year, so an "operating surplus" wouldn't be left over cash so much as Transit needing less subsidy than budgeted.

I would expect any Transit "operating surplus" in a given year would therefore go to general revenue (where the operating subsidy is coming from) to be redeployed in City spending that year or the next. It's not like there's a pile of several years worth of cash sitting around unspent.

I think the problem is that Transit senior management is proud of squeezing service tighter and tighter to keep undershooting their operating budget year after year. Instead I think they should be embarrassed and ashamed by the terrible service they are delivering to the public. And not only should they be spending every budgeted dime on better service but they should be fighting for more.

(This is what you get when people who wouldn't be caught dead on a bus [never mind depend on it daily] run the bus system...)

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On 2/13/2020 at 4:30 PM, SirAndrew710 said:

While on board 630 this afternoon I noticed that the route information (“Route 25 to Unicity, via Polo Park”) was played through the speakers on the bus rather than through the exterior speaker over the door. This isn’t the only bus that’s like that, I’ve noticed this on 635 and 273 as well, with the latter case being unusual because none of the D40LFs have exterior speakers. Does anyone know what causes this phenomenon to occur?

While we're on the subject of indoor oddities, what causes a section of lights to go off that aren't even near the front whenever the doors open? Always seems to be a random section every time it happens.

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On 2/11/2008 at 3:18 PM, DavidW said:

Winnipeg Free Press article on Saturday revealing the Mayor's approval of an independent regional transit authority to replace Winnipeg Transit.

End of line for Winnipeg Transit?

Mayor, planners suggest separate authority

Winnipeg Free Press

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/subscribe...p-4716972c.html

Sat Feb 9 2008

Winnipeg Free Press article on Sunday, February 10th, about the possibility of establishing a transit system in the City of Selkirk.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/sto...p-4717367c.html

Went to page 1 of this thread. Interesting that Katz called for a regional transit authority  back then. Years later we're still waiting. But maybe sometime after the Transit Master Plan is voted on, give or take a few more years.

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On 6/30/2008 at 6:52 AM, general682002 said:

If the driver flicks a switch to "Cool", then sometimes the setting can get too cold. Mechanic sets it up.

I've always wondered about this, as some buses with the same temp. and humidity outside are different from one another. I thought that the bus operator had access a LO / HI switch for the Air Cond., but a couple of them have told me, no, there is just ON and OFF.

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3 hours ago, LilZebra said:

I've always wondered about this, as some buses with the same temp. and humidity outside are different from one another. I thought that the bus operator had access a LO / HI switch for the Air Cond., but a couple of them have told me, no, there is just ON and OFF.

That is correct. The A/C buses is only a On and off switch

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A Notice of an upcoming pro-Transit rally in support of not cutting service, and investing more than 2% increase (inflationary) on service and vehicles.

TRANSIT RALLY - March 2 @ 12pm at City Hall (510 Main St)

Functional Transit Winnipeg is joining Budget for All and the Amalgamated Transit Union, Local 1505 in a rally at city hall. We'll be asking councillors to sign a pledge to not vote for any budget that cuts transit or keeps it below the rate of inflation. Please join us in support at lunch time on Monday outside of City Hall (510 Main St).

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1 hour ago, Wpgtransit11-25 said:

Brand new bus is at Brandon garage today it’s pilot bus 401 08F0D091-D6F6-45E6-9B63-6CFCEB4F1119.thumb.jpeg.53b42101e19b0f15eb930cf0cc904514.jpeg

I'm sorry I don't understand Transit-ese... what is a "pilot bus"? I eee the series number 401 and that means they are replacing the now 20 year old 400s and 500s.

How many of these are we getting?  We got 100 of each back in 1999.

I guess one day all WT (or its successor) buses will be identical to one another. I wish WT would accept bids from Novabus. just for variety. Or did they take them over too?

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5 minutes ago, LilZebra said:

I'm sorry I don't understand Transit-ese... what is a "pilot bus"? I eee the series number 401 and that means they are replacing the now 20 year old 400s and 500s.

How many of these are we getting?  We got 100 of each back in 1999.

I guess one day all WT (or its successor) buses will be identical to one another. I wish WT would accept bids from Novabus. just for variety. Or did they take them over too?

Since this is the first bus of the series they always get a pilot bus and this will Be replacing most of the 400 from 1999 era and we will be getting 35 of these buses all equipped with white signs front side and rear will be white sign 

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1 minute ago, Wpgtransit11-25 said:

Since this is the first bus of the series they always get a pilot bus and this will Be replacing most of the 400 from 1999 era and we will be getting 35 of these buses all equipped with white signs front side and rear will be white sign 

Again, you'll have to excuse my ignorance. What is a "pilot bus"?

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