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18 hours ago, DavidW said:

Two things to keep in mind are [1] that the driver costs the same whether the bus is 30ft or 40ft, and [2] the cost of a heavy duty 40-ft is not much different from a heavy duty 30-ft.  The 30-ft is essentially the same vehicle as the 40-ft, with the least expensive 10 feet of the vehicle left out.  Same engine, drive train, suspension, electronics, etc...

Hi, David:

The Grande West Vicinity costs about 40% less to purchase than a standard 40'. Maintenance is also about 1/3 less, plus fuel savings. GW engineered a true 30' heavy duty bus from the ground up requested by BC Transit - so it's not a 40' with 10' removed. 35' is also the same metrics and can hold up to about 55 passengers, not that different than a 40'.

Cheers,

TF

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1 hour ago, TransitFocus said:

Hi, David:

The Grande West Vicinity costs about 40% less to purchase than a standard 40'. Maintenance is also about 1/3 less, plus fuel savings. GW engineered a true 30' heavy duty bus from the ground up requested by BC Transit - so it's not a 40' with 10' removed. 35' is also the same metrics and can hold up to about 55 passengers, not that different than a 40'.

Cheers,

TF

While you're right there is a significant savings in purchasing a 30' Vicinity compared to a standard 40' bus I will disagree that it is about 40%. It is more in the 20-25% range from what I have seen. Still, that is a significant capital savings which can amount to upwards of $100,000 per bus.

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1 hour ago, Silly Tilley said:

While you're right there is a significant savings in purchasing a 30' Vicinity compared to a standard 40' bus I will disagree that it is about 40%. It is more in the 20-25% range from what I have seen. Still, that is a significant capital savings which can amount to upwards of $100,000 per bus.

Whatever type or size of vehicle you may use, labor will still be the biggest cost factor, up to 80% - unless it's proposed to pay drivers of smaller buses less than those of big ones.

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6 hours ago, Silly Tilley said:

While you're right there is a significant savings in purchasing a 30' Vicinity compared to a standard 40' bus I will disagree that it is about 40%. It is more in the 20-25% range from what I have seen. Still, that is a significant capital savings which can amount to upwards of $100,000 per bus.

You are correct, @Silly Tilley. Capital cost savings combined with fuel/maintenance can be up to 30-40% overall. Thank you for your correction (it's always a moving target).

@Mark Walton If the 40' buses are running under-utilized, why throw away the initial capital investment, maintenance and fuel savings just because it's a smaller percentage of overall costs vs. labour?  

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Bus driver dies after being stabbed at University of Manitoba

ill post the full story from CBC if u guys want 

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Absolutely devastating to hear this. As a Calgary Transit operator and a member of ATU 583 my condolences go to all my fellow ATU brothers and sisters and family of the operator.

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That's great thanks!

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