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Hi Everyone,

Here are a bunch of shots of Winnipeg Transit 1985 Flyer D901A-10240 #603 taken on October 12, 2006. Over the next while, I will be updating my website with photos from this recent trip into Saskatchewan and Manitoba. So these photos will not be in this file folder for very long.

http://busdrawings.com/pics/

(And yes, I know there is an OC Transpo Bus Photo in there!)

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A. Wong   

No one knows. :)

I thought it might be a newer Renault (check your website's pics, kind of similar), but Peter said it might be one from the former parent company of New Flyer.

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I agree with Ashton it might be a Den Ousten bus that they based the New Flyer low floors off of.

Peter did you happen to see the two Western Flyer Highway Buses that New Flyer has restored. I would be really interested in finding out if the deck & a half one is the same bus that was sitting in the Edmonton wrecking yard for quite a few years. The wrecking yard bus has disapeared & since there were only 4 Western Flyer deck & halfs built & one of the 4 is a motorhome in California

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Peter did you happen to see the two Western Flyer Highway Buses that New Flyer has restored. I would be really interested in finding out if the deck & a half one is the same bus that was sitting in the Edmonton wrecking yard for quite a few years. The wrecking yard bus has disapeared & since there were only 4 Western Flyer deck & halfs built & one of the 4 is a motorhome in California

That Western Flyer deck and half near Edmonton is still sitting there, as of when ever I was out there last, but was within the last year or so.

The information was incorrect that it had disappeared.

Yes, we did see the two Western Flyer buses.

Will post pics as that just happened to be one of the rolls I printed today.

Edit: Pics are now at: http://www.barp.ca/junk/martinsjunk/randomtripstuff/

A bunch of random trip stuff as the folder name would suggest.

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When I went to the location that canuck600 referred me to (out in the far west end of the city), there was nothing there. Do you have an updated location?

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When I went to the location that canuck600 referred me to (out in the far west end of the city), there was nothing there. Do you have an updated location?

Location was the same. I did check this out myself after you and me discussed this.

Again, this was still a little while back. It is far from the road. Even a 300mm lens would have a tough time pulling the bus in close.

That is without trespassing on the CN RoW.

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That Western Flyer deck and half near Edmonton is still sitting there, as of when ever I was out there last, but was within the last year or so.

The information was incorrect that it had disappeared.

Yes, we did see the two Western Flyer buses.

Will post pics as that just happened to be one of the rolls I printed today.

Edit: Pics are now at: http://www.barp.ca/junk/martinsjunk/randomtripstuff/

A bunch of random trip stuff as the folder name would suggest.

Very nice photo collection. Who's Golden Retriver operate from?

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I agree with Ashton it might be a Den Ousten bus that they based the New Flyer low floors off of.

Peter did you happen to see the two Western Flyer Highway Buses that New Flyer has restored. I would be really interested in finding out if the deck & a half one is the same bus that was sitting in the Edmonton wrecking yard for quite a few years. The wrecking yard bus has disapeared & since there were only 4 Western Flyer deck & halfs built & one of the 4 is a motorhome in California

I believe the bus New Flyer based it's low floors off of was the Den Oudsten B84. That bus by the Invero is the Den Oudsten X98.

Nice pics Peter and Martin!

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Interesting, because on this website there is some info on that bus.

Very rough translation from Babelfish:

Pine seniors X98 2001 a second prototype bus with experimental traction, was in development in association with fokker. During the failliessement the bus had up to that point progressed that the vehicle was technically. There was no interieur but meetapparatuur to border. He was not sold by auction but directly sold. Meanwhile it has been confessed that he has left to Canada, possibly to New flyer

So it is just a shell?

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Interesting, because on this website there is some info on that bus.

Very rough translation from Babelfish:

So it is just a shell?

I'm not sure about the particular X98 by the Invero being basically a shell, but it looks that way since there is no rear door. My guess is the X98 is with New Flyer as a basis for the LFR design.

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For the June 2001 Bus History Association convention in Winnipeg, we used a deck-and-a half for the first day's tours to the Grey Goose garage, Winnipeg Transit Fort Rouge, MCI, and Greyhound garage. That coach was privately-owned ex-Eagle Bus Lines unit. The second day we had WT D900 # 103, with Dennis Cavanagh driving, to Beaver Bus Lines, a drive by NFI, anther company in the NW whose name i forget, lunch at Polo Park, and th home stretch along Academy Rd. back to our hotel (the Charter House, now a Best Western and renovated).

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yeah... Seems to be a one bus fleet and seems to be used for disabled and seniors.

I would assume they are 1997-98.

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For the June 2001 Bus History Association convention in Winnipeg, we used a deck-and-a half for the first day's tours to the Grey Goose garage, Winnipeg Transit Fort Rouge, MCI, and Greyhound garage. That coach was privately-owned ex-Eagle Bus Lines unit. The second day we had WT D900 # 103, with Dennis Cavanagh driving, to Beaver Bus Lines, a drive by NFI, anther company in the NW whose name i forget, lunch at Polo Park, and th home stretch along Academy Rd. back to our hotel (the Charter House, now a Best Western and renovated).

Thanks for the info Mark.

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Here is a list of all active Fishbowls, Classics, and Orion's running for Beaver Bus Lines. The Classics are the most recent deliveries in the past few years and seem to be replacing other equipment running on the Selkirk / Winnipeg Commuter run. A few buses shown on this list as running the "Selkirk run" now seem to be running on the School runs as they were probably displaced by the arriving Classics. #52 is the most recent delivery and is still being set up for service and is apparently not yet plated. I have also included retired units (That I know of) to show what they have had over the years.

28 - 1960 GM TDH-4517 - School Bus - Active

29 - 1960 GM TDH-4517 - School Bus - Active (Spare?)

30 - 1962 GM TDH-5301 - School Bus - Active - Ex-Regina Transit #334

33 - 1963 GM SDM-4502 - School Bus - Active (Still retains manual transmission)

34 - 1966 GM SDH-4502 - School Bus - Active

35 - 1968 GM TDH-5304 - School Bus - Retired

36 - 1969 GM T6H-5306 - School Bus - Retired

38 - 1982 GM T6H-5307N - School Bus - Active

39 - 1985 Orion I 01.509 - School Bus - Active

40 - 1971 GM T8H-5305A - School Bus - Active (Originally Golden Gate Transit #603)

41 - 1988 Orion I 01.509 - Selkirk Run - Active

42 - 1979 Orion I 01.505 - ?? - Retired

43 - 1979 Orion I 01.503 - ?? - Retired

44 - 1971 GM T8H-5305A - School Bus - Active (Originally Golden Gate Transit #720)

45 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-CT Transit - Connecticut #9079

46 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-CT Transit - Connecticut #9106

47 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-CT Transit - Connecticut #9062

48 - 1987 New Flyer D40 - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-NFI Demo unit - first unit built by NFI

49 - 1992 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-Santa Monica Municipal Bus Lines (CA) #4948

50 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-UTA - Salt Lake City, Utah #9050

51 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-UTA - Salt Lake City, Utah #9047

52 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-UTA - Salt Lake City, Utah #9065

60 - 1990 Orion I 01.509 - Selkirk Run - Active

73 - 1992 New Flyer D40 - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-NFI Demo unit

74 - 1994 New Flyer D40 - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-NFI Demo unit

Not a single bus in this fleet have rear doors. Many have had their rear doors removed while others were new with no rear doors.

Enjoy!

Cheers,

Peter McLaughlin

http://www.busdrawings.com

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Oh sure , I take a weeks holidays and you take a picture of my bus route LOL . 68-1 is my run from 5:07 t0 12:43 monday to friday and I was on holidays this week . :blink:

http://www.barp.ca/junk/martinsjunk/random...ff/47710018.JPG

Oh sure , I take a weeks holidays and you take a picture of my bus route LOL . 68-1 is my run from 5:07 t0 12:43 monday to friday and I was on holidays this week . :o

http://www.barp.ca/junk/martinsjunk/random...ff/47710018.JPG

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Oh sure , I take a weeks holidays and you take a picture of my bus route LOL . 68-1 is my run from 5:07 t0 12:43 monday to friday and I was on holidays this week . <_<

http://www.barp.ca/junk/martinsjunk/random...ff/47710018.JPG

Apparently I got that same shot as well when I was there with Martin! Not scanned in yet though.

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Here is a list of all active Fishbowls, Classics, and Orion's running for Beaver Bus Lines. The Classics are the most recent deliveries in the past few years and seem to be replacing other equipment running on the Selkirk / Winnipeg Commuter run. A few buses shown on this list as running the "Selkirk run" now seem to be running on the School runs as they were probably displaced by the arriving Classics. #52 is the most recent delivery and is still being set up for service and is apparently not yet plated. I have also included retired units (That I know of) to show what they have had over the years.

28 - 1960 GM TDH-4517 - School Bus - Active

29 - 1960 GM TDH-4517 - School Bus - Active (Spare?)

30 - 1962 GM TDH-5301 - School Bus - Active - Ex-Regina Transit #334

33 - 1963 GM SDM-4502 - School Bus - Active (Still retains manual transmission)

34 - 1966 GM SDH-4502 - School Bus - Active

35 - 1968 GM TDH-5304 - School Bus - Retired

36 - 1969 GM T6H-5306 - School Bus - Retired

38 - 1982 GM T6H-5307N - School Bus - Active

39 - 1985 Orion I 01.509 - School Bus - Active

40 - 1971 GM T8H-5305A - School Bus - Active (Originally Golden Gate Transit #603)

41 - 1988 Orion I 01.509 - Selkirk Run - Active

42 - 1979 Orion I 01.505 - ?? - Retired

43 - 1979 Orion I 01.503 - ?? - Retired

44 - 1971 GM T8H-5305A - School Bus - Active (Originally Golden Gate Transit #720)

45 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-CT Transit - Connecticut #9079

46 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-CT Transit - Connecticut #9106

47 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-CT Transit - Connecticut #9062

48 - 1987 New Flyer D40 - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-NFI Demo unit - first unit built by NFI

49 - 1992 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-Santa Monica Municipal Bus Lines (CA) #4948

50 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-UTA - Salt Lake City, Utah #9050

51 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-UTA - Salt Lake City, Utah #9047

52 - 1990 MCI TC-40102A - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-UTA - Salt Lake City, Utah #9065

60 - 1990 Orion I 01.509 - Selkirk Run - Active

73 - 1992 New Flyer D40 - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-NFI Demo unit

74 - 1994 New Flyer D40 - Selkirk Run - Active - Ex-NFI Demo unit

Not a single bus in this fleet have rear doors. Many have had their rear doors removed while others were new with no rear doors.

Enjoy!

Cheers,

Peter McLaughlin

http://www.busdrawings.com

It seems that the removed rear door was from Dupont bus in Quebec.

So what happened to that Orion V suburban?

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So what happened to that Orion V suburban?[/font][/size][/color]

66... it's still running... but, it seems it's only on school runs now. At least from what we saw it doing.

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Here is an active fleet summary for Winnipeg Transit.

101-107 1984 Flyer D901A-10240 = 4

108-182 1985 Flyer D901A-10240 = 27

601-630 1986 Flyer D901A-10240 = 22

631-660 1987 New Flyer D40 = 5

301-334 1988 MCI TC-40102N = 33

801-828 1989 New Flyer D40 = 23

831-860 1990 New Flyer D40 = 26

861-890 1991 New Flyer D40 = 23

340-366 1992 New Flyer D40 = 11

370-399 1994 New Flyer D40 = 28

671-699 1994 New Flyer D40 = 29

991-993 1994 NFI D40LF = 3

911-925 1996 NFI D30LF = 15

401-443 1998 NFI D40LF = 43

444-499 1999 NFI D40LF = 56

501-504 1999 NFI D40LF = 4

930-949 2001 NFI D30LF = 20

510-561 2002 NFI D40LF = 52

701-710 2002 NFI D40i = 10

570-599 2003 NFI D40LF = 30

201-230 2004 NFI D40LF = 30

231-260 2005 NFI D40LF = 30

261-272 2006 NFI D40LF = 12 - ON ORDER - being built right now

?? to ?? 2006 NFI DE60LFR = 2 - ON ORDER

?? to ?? 2008 NFI DE60LFR = 18 - ON ORDER

Only one series of D40's is still fully intact since delivery. And that is 671-699

1 is missing from the 370-399 batch. 1986 D901A's - 22 out of 30 left

1987 D40's - 5 out of 30 left. That's saying something about the early D40's even compared to older D901A-10240 buses. Same in Toronto. TTC's 1987 D40's were long gone before that began phasing out the 1985 and 1986 D901A's. No wonder is was so much easier to find a 1985 and 1986 D901A's compared to the 1987 D40's. I also kinda noticed that it was hard to find the 1992 D40's of which only 11 remain active.

Regards,

Peter McLaughlin

http://www.busdrawings.com

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