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[SirAndrew710]

Saw a bus turn into Unicity this afternoon and sign “241 WORK BUS,” then “F DOWNTOWN RED SERVICE,” before finally changing it to “24 DOWNTOWN.”

[MMP15]

16 hours ago, SirAndrew710 said:

Saw a bus turn into Unicity this afternoon and sign “241 WORK BUS,” then “F DOWNTOWN RED SERVICE,” before finally changing it to “24 DOWNTOWN.”

Interesting that the winter snow plan codes are still programmed into busses when they took it down from the website.

Maybe with the TMP the new winter snow plan could simply be primary network routes only?

[ConnorsCompShow]

10 hours ago, MMP15 said:

Interesting that the winter snow plan codes are still programmed into busses when they took it down from the website.

Maybe with the TMP the new winter snow plan could simply be primary network routes only?

Tell you the honest truth, when the first draft was released my first impression was that they just started off with those Red plans and worked their way out from there.

[vivablue5215]

Noticed signs along the #10 route that it's getting rerouted effective April 12. The route will follow the same routing as the 17 and 20 to Misericordia, then west on Wolseley to the current turnaround loop at Aubrey.

[SirAndrew710]

15 hours ago, vivablue5215 said:

Noticed signs along the #10 route that it's getting rerouted effective April 12.

The change is on the 18th.

[DavidW]

3 hours ago, SirAndrew710 said:

The change is on the 18th.

Is the reroute temporary or permanent?

[Isaac Williams]

1 hour ago, DavidW said:

Is the reroute temporary or permanent?

I'm pretty sure it's permanent, until the TMP takes over.

This is the sign at 10226.

[DavidW]

5 hours ago, Isaac Williams said:

I'm pretty sure it's permanent, until the TMP takes over.

This is the sign at 10226.

I see the whole of the route on Westminster is discontinued. That segment is the oldest city transit bus route in Western Canada, having started 01 May 1918.

[MMP15]

The next schedule change is out. Interesting/terrible to see that almost ALL of the SWT routes and feeder routes (except 690, 691, 694) number of runs are getting slashed by 17-30%.

[SirAndrew710]

1 hour ago, MMP15 said:

The next schedule change is out. Interesting/terrible to see that almost ALL of the SWT routes and feeder routes (except 690, 691, 694) number of runs are getting slashed by 17-30%.

The 10’s getting cut too. It will run with only two buses (instead of three) during the weekday mid-day period.

[ConnorsCompShow]

They've finally ditched keeping route 29 on its Saturday schedule during weekdays. About damn time, especially now that all-day 36 service looks to be no more during the fall/winter schedules, for obvious reasons.

Kinda stinks that 641 users will lose the convenience of every 30 minutes on the :30s after 8 PM. Ah well.

[wt_enthusiast_photos]

10 hours ago, ConnorsCompShow said:

They've finally ditched keeping route 29 on its Saturday schedule during weekdays. About damn time, especially now that all-day 36 service looks to be no more during the fall/winter schedules, for obvious reasons.

Kinda stinks that 641 users will lose the convenience of every 30 minutes on the :30s after 8 PM. Ah well.

It's a glitch they'll it'll be fixed

[SirAndrew710]

Checking the schedule, I see routes 96 and 98 will be back to having two buses in the spring. Those routes had three buses pre-COVID, two during the reduced schedule, then three again in the summer, two again in the fall and three again now. At least they managed to include all-day service on Route 88 and (most importantly for me) to not make a mess of the 83 again.

2 hours ago, bus is coming 1965 said:

It's a glitch they'll it'll be fixed

There have been “glitches” galore on every schedule since the fall, and this is quite possibly the most there have been since then. Will they all be fixed?

[Isaac Williams]

Today marks the first anniversary of Phase 2 of the SWT opening, and all the changes it brought, including BLUE.

[wt_enthusiast_photos]

Here to Mark 1 year of Blue. Here's Ex Calgary Transit 7574 making a rare appearance on the Blue since December 2020 only 2 Calgary buses have been on the blue. 655 and 664 I got both pictures. But enjoy  

[MMP15]

Noticed today that the 14s that deadhead at St. Mary's and Dakota are now signed 14 Bishop Grandin instead of 14 Dunkirk. Does this mean that even though Navigo says that these busses last stop is St Mary's/Dakota, drivers will actually change to not in service at St Mary's/Bishop Grandin?

[Isaac Williams]

No, they're supposed to stay in service until Dunkirk/Dakota.


It's not the only case where the sign on the bus differs from the official last stop. For example there's the 18 Main & McAdam which is signed "18 INKSTER", the 32 Main & Seven Oaks which is signed "32 INKSTER", the 46 Plessis & Regent which is signed "46 KILDONAN PLACE" (though the cards do say to allow drop-offs to KP), and the 55 St. Anne's & Beliveau which is signed "55 NIAKWA RD".

I suspect the 14's are using 1412 ("14 BISHOP GRANDIN") instead of 1415 ("14 DUNKIRK") by mistake somehow, but I don't know. In any case, here's a shot of that sign, for everyone else to see.

[MMP15]

7 minutes ago, Isaac Williams said:

No, they're supposed to stay in service until Dunkirk/Dakota.


It's not the only case where the sign on the bus differs from the official last stop. For example there's the 18 Main & McAdam which is signed "18 INKSTER", the 32 Main & Seven Oaks which is signed "32 INKSTER", the 46 Plessis & Regent which is signed "46 KILDONAN PLACE" (though the cards do say to allow drop-offs to KP), and the 55 St. Anne's & Beliveau which is signed "55 NIAKWA RD".

Interesting. The 55 is particularly bad because the destination sign NIAKWA RD is wayyy North of St Anne's/Beliveau, potentially leading to a long walk (especially late at night when 55s end as St Anne's/Beliveau). With the 18/32 it's much easier to walk an extra couple blocks. At least with 14 BISHOP GRANDIN, the sign implies a shorter route than it actually is, which is better than a sign that implies a longer route that it actually is.

Also, I really wish that they'd make the little "a" that denotes a timed transfer public. It would give a lot more peace of mind differentiating the difference between transfers that "are kinda close so they might be timed" and ones that actually are. It would also be good to know that the driver of the connecting bus has been instructed to wait X number of minutes in case the bus that is deadheading is late. (is there an internal guideline on this?)

[tctf101]

9 hours ago, Isaac Williams said:

I suspect the 14's are using 1412 ("14 BISHOP GRANDIN") instead of 1415 ("14 DUNKIRK") by mistake somehow, but I don't know. In any case, here's a shot of that sign, for everyone else to see.
 

No that’s not a mistake reason why they are using 14 bishop grandin is because there isn’t a stop on the 14 called Dunkirk so people can get confused 

[Isaac Williams]

1 hour ago, Thewinnipegtransitfanhuang said:

No that’s not a mistake reason why they are using 14 bishop grandin is because there isn’t a stop on the 14 called Dunkirk so people can get confused 

No, but there is a street called "Dunkirk".

[MMP15]

The bike rack logo has made it's reappearance on navigo. They've been extra slow this year on actually putting them on. Only the 440-470s have them (about 5 in service), and a couple from last year's set of busses. Overall it's pretty lacklustre considering they have enough racks sitting there to put on the 2020 XD40s, 2021 XD40s, ALL the XD60s and the D40LFRs (units 140-169). 

On the plus side, this year when all racks are put on 135 busses should have bike racks. This represents just over 20% of the entire fleet.

[Isaac Williams]

6 minutes ago, MMP15 said:

The bike rack logo has made it's reappearance on navigo. They've been extra slow this year on actually putting them on. Only the 440-470s have them (about 5 in service), and a couple from last year's set of busses. Overall it's pretty lacklustre considering they have enough racks sitting there to put on the 2020 XD40s, 2021 XD40s, ALL the XD60s and the D40LFRs (units 140-169). 

On the plus side, this year when all racks are put on 135 busses should have bike racks. This represents just over 20% of the entire fleet.

20% is a pitifully low number for bike racks.

[MMP15]

11 minutes ago, Isaac Williams said:

20% is a pitifully low number for bike racks.

I agree, but at least it's steady progress from the numerous years of only having 30 for the entire fleet. Last year was the first year that a route (BLUE) reliably almost always had a rack. Hopefully lines A, B, C, and D in the TMP will be able to always have racks from the get go. (Sidenote: tomorrow we will see if the plan passes IRPW)

The next big issue is keeping the racks on in winter. Transit always cites garage space, but does their garage magically grow in spring/summer? There has to be a better solution that just taking them off in winter, whether it's running a reduced fleet with racks (maybe only the XD60s), or taking the racks on/off constantly as busses are deployed, but keeping the mounts on the busses so that this can be done efficiently. 

Also for context, Metro Transit (in the twin cities in Minnesota) has 100% with racks. It's been that way for at least a decade. There are a LOT of lessons WT can learn from our close neighbours to the south... Bike and bus, OWL service, RT network, hi-freq network (at this rate we'll have ours in 25 years!), the list goes on and on. 

[tctf101]

1 hour ago, MMP15 said:

but does their garage magically grow in spring/summer?

In spring/summer they can park buses outside but in the winter they can’t 

[wt_enthusiast_photos]

Just a FYI tracker says there's a bus 696 on the blue but it's only 619