wpgtransit183-2 Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, Taylorover9001 said: But where in the 900's? If I'm not mistaken, there isn't enough room in the 900's anywhere, unless they renumber some of the D30LF's/D60LFs, or they have gaps in the numbering, such as having the numbering as 926 - 929 (4), 950 - 970 (21), 991 - 993 (3), to have all 28 buses in there. Yes, a good chunk of the D30LF's have been retired, but still I don't think you could cleanly fit them into the 900's, and the repainted 2001 D30LF's are probably staying for awhile longer, or maybe I'm wrong, IDK. Very true we will have to wait and see I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt_enthusiast_photos Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 670-698 could work 1 hour ago, Taylorover9001 said: I don't know, but if I had to make a prediction, I would say probably in the 300's (370 - 397), but the 600's (665 to 692) are possible too. Fleet numbers always start at ether 0 or 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorover9001 Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, bus is coming 1965 said: 670-698 could work Fleet numbers always start at ether 0 or 1 True, but you get the point. They can fit into the 300s and 600s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpgtransit183-2 Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Taylorover9001 said: True, but you get the point. They can fit into the 300s and 600s. I think more likely will seen them numbered in 600s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilZebra Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 7:04 PM, wpgtransit183-2 said: Very true we will have to wait and see I guess 1001, 1002, 1003... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpgtransit11-25 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, LilZebra said: 1001, 1002, 1003... Don’t see that happening I wanna say 600s or 900s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorover9001 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 12 hours ago, LilZebra said: 1001, 1002, 1003... I don't think they'll ever do that, not until they run out of numbers below 1000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorover9001 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 858 on Route 39, which I rode today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viafreak Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Noticed that there is often a D30LF parked across the street from Osborne Garage along Brandon. What is the reason why those buses are parked there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpgtransit11-25 Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Viafreak said: Noticed that there is often a D30LF parked across the street from Osborne Garage along Brandon. What is the reason why those buses are parked there? Handy transit training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt_enthusiast_photos Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, Viafreak said: Noticed that there is often a D30LF parked across the street from Osborne Garage along Brandon. What is the reason why those buses are parked there? They've been doing that forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Wpgtransit11-25 said: Handy transit training I was my understanding that the D30LF parked at Transit customer service was used to test Handi-Transit passenger applicants' functionality with regular transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO_1601 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 6:53 PM, Taylorover9001 said: I don't know, but if I had to make a prediction, I would say probably in the 300's (370 - 397), but the 600's (665 to 692) are possible too. Would Winnipeg Transit except "666" as a fleet number though? It's often considered to be the devil's number as the reason why Regina Transit skipped it in the first place. But other transit transit agencies in the west did have it before it became well known in pop culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt_enthusiast_photos Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, STO_1601 said: Would Winnipeg Transit except "666" as a fleet number though? It's often considered to be the devil's number as the reason why Regina Transit skipped it in the first place. But other transit transit agencies in the west did have it before it became well known in pop culture. We did have a 666 before. That was 30-40 years ago. So no 666 would not be possible. We did have 630-660 then 670-699 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO_1601 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, bus is coming 1965 said: We did have a 666 before. That was 30-40 years ago. So no 666 would not be possible. We did have 630-660 then 670-699 Well that was a long time ago though. Winnipeg can still decide whether to skip it or not for this next order of 28 artics if the do indeed number them in the 600s range. Like when they decided to change the rules about buses ending in "00". That's probably why there was never a "500" bus in the 1998 D40LF fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorover9001 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, STO_1601 said: Would Winnipeg Transit except "666" as a fleet number though? It's often considered to be the devil's number as the reason why Regina Transit skipped it in the first place. But other transit transit agencies in the west did have it before it became well known in pop culture. Who cares if it's the number of a fictional character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt_enthusiast_photos Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 49 minutes ago, STO_1601 said: Well that was a long time ago though. Winnipeg can still decide whether to skip it or not for this next order of 28 artics if the do indeed number them in the 600s range. Like when they decided to change the rules about buses ending in "00". That's probably why there was never a "500" bus in the 1998 D40LF fleet. We only got a 300 and a 800 cause of this. 800-830 is 31 buses and they didn't wanna end at 831. If they did they would have to skip to 835 for the next order after that. Same with the 300s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Frankly I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about Winnipeg Transit fleet numbering. There have been some "common practices" but those change whenever the decision-makers change. For some time fleet oddballs have been numbered in the 900s (D30LF's, D60LF's, XE40's, demonstrators, etc...) but it's entirely possible they might change that with this order of XD60's. They've also been unwilling to break the four-digit barrier, but that too could change. As for ordering XD60's... As a transit enthusiast fleet variety is the spice of life. As a transit user I know buying artics means less service. The real point of buying high-capacity vehicles is to reduce (or avoid increasing) frequency. Poor service frequency is Winnipeg Transit's fundamental flaw. In attracting ridership high frequency is far more important than speed or WiFi or upholstery or fancy paintjobs or nifty slogans. And it's only with high frequency that the network becomes useful for any and all journeys, not just trips downtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt548 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 What the hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpgtransit11-25 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 looks like 189 needs new front brakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor204 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, matt548 said: What the hell? I just saw 2 17s leaving downtown by the Bay 5 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorover9001 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 8 hours ago, DavidW said: Frankly I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about Winnipeg Transit fleet numbering. There have been some "common practices" but those change whenever the decision-makers change. For some time fleet oddballs have been numbered in the 900s (D30LF's, D60LF's, XE40's, demonstrators, etc...) but it's entirely possible they might change that with this order of XD60's. They've also been unwilling to break the four-digit barrier, but that too could change. As for ordering XD60's... As a transit enthusiast fleet variety is the spice of life. As a transit user I know buying artics means less service. The real point of buying high-capacity vehicles is to reduce (or avoid increasing) frequency. Poor service frequency is Winnipeg Transit's fundamental flaw. In attracting ridership high frequency is far more important than speed or WiFi or upholstery or fancy paintjobs or nifty slogans. And it's only with high frequency that the network becomes useful for any and all journeys, not just trips downtown. I thought the 60 foot buses were for reducing times when the buses look like passengers are about too fall out of the windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivablue5215 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 17 hours ago, trebor204 said: I just saw 2 17s leaving downtown by the Bay 5 minutes ago I know there was an incident in one of the middle lanes of Main Street at the height of PM rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 19 hours ago, Taylorover9001 said: I thought the 60 foot buses were for reducing times when the buses look like passengers are about too fall out of the windows. The correct response to crowded buses depends on the level of service. If the service is low frequency the correct change is more frequency. If the service is high frequency then the correct response should be bigger vehicles. Winnipeg Transit has no policy on what constitutes "low frequency" or "high frequency". For a city Winnipeg's size and with our ridership I think "high frequency" is a bus every 10 minutes or better, and "low frequency" is a bus every 13 minutes or worse. If people are "hanging out of the windows" on Portage Avenue then deploy artics. If it's on the 36 (buses 30 minutes apart) then schedule more frequent service... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorover9001 Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 20 hours ago, DavidW said: The correct response to crowded buses depends on the level of service. If the service is low frequency the correct change is more frequency. If the service is high frequency then the correct response should be bigger vehicles. Winnipeg Transit has no policy on what constitutes "low frequency" or "high frequency". For a city Winnipeg's size and with our ridership I think "high frequency" is a bus every 10 minutes or better, and "low frequency" is a bus every 13 minutes or worse. If people are "hanging out of the windows" on Portage Avenue then deploy artics. If it's on the 36 (buses 30 minutes apart) then schedule more frequent service... So, I guess the 60 footers need more use on 160/161/162. It seems, even during the the highest frequency of those routes, they are full and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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