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OK today was a triple success, I would have preferred better sun angles but hey can't complain.

The people at the Auger Metropolitain garage were alright but a lady told me not to go in the buses after having gone into the three Classics on property. Aside from the three Orion V Suburbans, these were the only transit buses on property! I wonder where the others were. Anyway the lady turned out to be the person responsible for charters so now I have a contact there! Also she tried to push a coach on me... I said no way, we're all about the transit buses! All parking outside

CITSO Garage Spottings

858 - November 2003 Transcar Classic - 2T9ES27284B155011

851 - November 1994 Novabus Classic Suburban - 2NVYT82J8R3000401

847 - August 1991 MCI Classic Suburban - 2AUYT82J2M3000217

Also present were the following Orion V Suburbans: 857, 853, 854. No coach sightings, sorry!

Later on at La Quebecoise in Delson (very small garage, all outdoor parking), the women there in the office were really chill. While I was there, some 3rd party guys were removing radios/GPS devices from the transit buses.

CIT Roussillon Garage Spottings

Coach Buses

9807 - 1998 Prevost H3-45 - La Quebecoise Red Livery

9777 - 1997 Prevost H3-45 - La Quebecoise Blue Livery

9901 - 1999 Prevost H3-41 - L'Aerobus Livery

9902 - 1999 Prevost H3-41? - Yark! La Quebecoise Orange Livery!

9849 - 1998 Prevost H3-45 - La Quebecoise White Livery

9707 - 1997 Prevost H3-41? - La Quebecoise Black Livery

9706 - 1997 Prevost H3-41 - La Quebecoise Black Livery

Transit Buses

2347 - TMCI Classic

9670 - June 1996 Novabus Classic Suburban - 2NVYT82K5T3000176

2004 - 2000 Novabus RTS

2316 - August 2003 Dupont Victoria Suburban - 2D94751A64C102108

2318 - September 2003 Dupont Victoria Suburban - 2D94751A84C102109

9945 - April 1999 Novabus RTS Suburban

9944 - 1999 Novabus RTS Suburban

2002 - May

2000 Novabus RTS

2003 - 2000 Novabus RTS Suburban

Finally at CIT Le Richelain's garage in La Prairie. The man on duty said don't go inside the garage (they actually have indoor parking!), just shoot buses outside no problem. He also said that the old Classics were available for charter by La Quebecoise!

CIT Le Richelain Garage Spottings

9136 - May 1991 MCI Classic Suburban - 2AUYT82J2M3000105

Ugly old CIT Le Richelain livery with green stripe, tip in windows, dead rollsign, likely dead bus

9127 - June 1991 MCI Classic - 2AUYT82J5M3000115

Active

2366 - December 1990 TMCI Classic - 2AUYT82J1L3000434

Active

Here is what is on the rollsign of 9127 "as is" - yellow font, brackets and CAPS LOCK whereever indicated; square brackets indicates two lines and slash indicates change of line:

C.I.T. LE RICHELAIN

SPECIAL

GARAGE

BONNE JOURNÉE

MONTRÉAL (EXPRESS)

LA PRAIRIE (EXPRESS)

CANDIAC (EXPRESS)

LA PRAIRIE [VIA/CANDIAC]

CHATEAUGUAY (???!!! - SMS)

LA PRAIRIE [VIA/BROSSARD]

LONGUEUIL

LONGUEUIL [VIA/BROSSARD]

CANDIAC [VIA/LA PRAIRIE]

BROSSARD

L'ACADIE

ST-LUC

LA PRAIRIE (white)

CANDIAC (white)

MONTRÉAL (white)

MONTRÉAL [VIA/LA PRAIRIE]

ST-JEAN [VIA/LA PRAIRIE]

ST-JEAN [TERMINUS/CARREFOUR]

MONTRÉAL [TERMINUS/CENTRE-VILLE]

EXPRESS [DIRECTION/MONTRÉAL]

EXPRESS [DIRECTION/ST-JEAN]

St-Jean-sur-Richelieu

Then it was off to lunch at Guy La Patate, a quick run by Garage St-Hubert (no pics or detailed sightings to report) and a jaunt across the Champlain Bridge. What a great day!

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Builders plate by the front door specifies T.M.C.I. They are American made Classics from what I understand. I swear I am not making this up! My first ride on a TMCI was with a bus based out of Calgary Transit's Anderson Garage with a really cool female operator.

Alex and I fanned a little outside TCV for PM rush and then headed to Angrignon for CIT Roussillon's last trip over the Mercier Bridge. 2004 was our ride, a 2000 Novabus RTS. We returned with a Prevost coach back to TCV of course.

Terminus Georges-Gagné (anciennement Autoparc Delson) has temporary AMT signage for the stops, there are actually four platforms now as opposed to a flagless stop next to a lonely abribus.

A bit disappointing is the fact that the new bus stop flags at Roussillon are not necessarily new... the same metal flag now has a sticker with the new logo on it. Can you say cheap, guys?

Too bad no one else wanted to come... it's been a great past few days. The action starts tomorrow guys! Limocar presents new buses for the newest system in the province! Who wants in??

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Today BTW most of the CIT Roussillon buses ran without logos :D

Very valuable pics were taken in the last few days, in other words...

ADDENDUM

The last PM rush for CIT Roussillon served by La Quebecoise

2318 on the 85 - ghost livery

9944 actually signed up as "70 R-Sud/Brossard" - didn't know the rollsign worked! Dammit! - ghost livery (poor job at front, can still see vestiges of sticker)

Later at Angrignon, 2004 was the last bus to use the Mercier Bridge, henceforth all Roussillon buses shall use the Champlain Bridge.

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Too bad no one else wanted to come... it's been a great past few days. The action starts tomorrow guys! Limocar presents new buses for the newest system in the province! Who wants in??

I would love to come if I ever live in Montreal, cause I love how CIT system have oddball equipment I want to ride!

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I have the pleasure of presenting you with the FIRST Limocar CIT Roussillon Sightings!

370(22)8 - Novabus LFS Suburban 2008

371(22)8 - NovaBus LFS Suburban 2008 (BETTER THAN CITSOs!!!!! AIR CONDITIONING!!!) - Route 35 (Saint-Constant / Exporail)

372(22)8 - Novabus LFS Suburban 2008 - Route 33

373(22)8 - Novabus LFS Suburban 2008 - Route 32

533(22)2 - CUTAWAY!!! Ford E450 - Route 34

550(22)9 - CUTAWAY!!! Didn't get the model but it looks exactly like CITVR's Otterburn park buses - http://www.flickr.com/photos/kellergraham/2578788693/ - Route 31/36

801(22)3 - Prevost H3-45 - Route 120 - EXPRESS via Jogues

802(22)3 - Prevost H3-45 - Route 110 - EXPRESS via Pricipale Nord

803(22)3 - Prevost H3-45 - Route 100 - EXPRESS

804(22)5 - Prevost H3-45 - Route 200 - Lasalle

806(22)7 - Prevost H3-45 - Route 100 - Express

875(22)3 - Prevost ???

876(22)3 - Prevost H3-45

890(22)9 - Prevost X3-45 - Route 100 - EXPRESS

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891(22)9 - Prevost X3-45 - Route 100 - EXPRESS

From my calculations, at least 10 Coaches are required to provide to/from TCV + 1 for the 200 + 5 buses for the 6 local routes (31+36 use the same bus) = 16 buses required total

From discussions with officials at Terminus Georges Gagné:

- All drivers have followed a 3-day training on the routes and accepted fares.

- Bus stop signs at Terminus Georges-Gagné are temporary and will be revised. The whole terminus may one day be relocated north of highway 132

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- Off topic, but in the vicinity: Off peak Delson/Candiac train service is "in the works".

- As much as an improvement the current schedule is, it's only the beginning. Another revision is planned for August 25th. That would probably explain why the bus stop flags are just as bare as the older ones:

OLDER:

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NEWER:

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I picked up the new "Horaires du reseau de transport" or Transit Network Timetable for the brand-spanking new CIT Roussillon on Monday!

In word: WOW

In a sentence: They've really SURF'd up the place!

GONE are the one-shot wonders that operate into Montreal in the morning and out of Montreal in the afternoon.

GONE is the great difficulty to get to the Roussillon area off peak.

GONE is the complete lack of Sunday / Holiday service

WELCOME:

Much easier way to get to/from Rousillon area.

Buses every 5-10 minutes during the peak.

Standardized every 2 hours off peak.

6 Local Routes

6 External Routes

Line 30 (Off Peak): Georges-Gagné / Delson / Saint-Constant / Sainte-Catherine / Connection to Saint-Constant Train Station and Museum

Line 31: Georges-Gagné / Sainte-Catherine (East)

Line 32: Georges-Gagné / Sainte-Catherine (Central & West)

Line 33: Georges-Gagné / Sainte-Catherine / Saint-Constant / Connection to Sainte-Catherine Train Station

Line 34: Georges-Gagné / Saint-Constant

Line 34: Georges-Gagné / Saint-Constant / Connection to Saint-Constant Train Station and Museum

Line 36: Georges-Gagné / Delson South - Connection to Delson Train Station

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Line 100: TCV / Georges-Gagné (Express)

Line 110: TCV / Panama / CLSC / Georges-Gagné (via Marie-Victorin/Principale)

Line 120: TCV / Taschereau (no Panama) / CLSC / Jogues / Geoges-Gagné

Line 130: TCV / Panama / CLSC / Georges-Gagné

Line 200: Angrignon / CEGEP Laurendeau / Jolicoeur / Georges-Gagné

Roussillon4_Schedule.jpg

The booklet contains not one but TWO network maps, one on a backdrop of the city streets, and the other an drawing of the routes only.

Roussillon5_Map.jpg

Each schedule shows the GUARANTEED connection to each bus to/from the Montreal buses.

Also included are a new logo and a cool new bus livery!

Roussillon1_Cover.jpg

Hey Guys!

Any chance you can pick up a copy of that guide for me?

i can send you some new Boston maps if you are interested in exchange!

Cheers!

Bob Hussey

Medford, MA USeh

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Yeah, I was first with the pics, so what's the prize?

Also, CIT Rousillon sent a CUTAWAY to TCV for it's weekend service! Only 3 people on the bus leaving at 13:55...

There was a prize?!?

Oh well, ok then, I'm the first to post up CITR LFSes with no back door. :D

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The prize is bragging rights. I will have to go to TCV and/or Georges-Gagné sometime next week to get some brand new bus pics. I've been lazy. Too bad some of you guys didn't want a piece of the old Roussillon action though. Nobody likes the RTS here? You'll never see one in Ville LaSalle again!

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The prize is bragging rights. I will have to go to TCV and/or Georges-Gagné sometime next week to get some brand new bus pics. I've been lazy. Too bad some of you guys didn't want a piece of the old Roussillon action though. Nobody likes the RTS here? You'll never see one in Ville LaSalle again!

Actually, I really wanted to. But I just wasn't able to!

I'm pissed I missed all of that!

I like RTS, even beat-up ones!

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After analyzing the improved service from CIT Roussillon, I can say that the following improvements are needed:

30 - Add bidirectional service, perhaps hourly off peak (which seems to be the CIT standard)

31 - Add GG@09:00 // GG@09:14

32 - Add GG@16:15 // GG@16:40

33 - Add GG@19:00 // GG@19:25

34 - Add GG@08:25 // GG@08:50

34 - Add GG@16:15 // GG@16:40

34 - Add GG@19:30 // GG@19:55

35 - Add GG@08:45 // GG@09:10

35 - Add GG@15:55 // GG@16:20

35 - Add GG@18:55 // GG@19:20

36 - Add GG@05:06 // GG@05:21

1X0 - Add GG @ 05:40 // TCV @ 06:15

1X0 - Add GG @ 09:10 // TCV @ 09:45

1x0 - Add TCV @ 15:00 // GG @ 15:35

1x0 - Add GG @ 19:00 // TCV @ 19:35

130 - Move 19:15 to 19:20

130 - Add GG @ 15:30 // TCV @ 16:05

130 - Hourly off peak (CIT Standard)

200 - Allocate two buses to the service with standard departures during rush hours every 45 minutes and every 1.5 hours off peak

Alex

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Also, CIT Rousillon sent a CUTAWAY to TCV for it's weekend service! Only 3 people on the bus leaving at 13:55...

They did the same thing on Sunday. 550229 was on the 130. I find these buses very ugly, the only thing I like about them is the electronic destination sign. I don't know if we should call them Cutaway, to me a cutaway is more like STM uses on the 251. Those used by CIT Rousillon are short school buses.

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They did the same thing on Sunday. 550229 was on the 130. I find these buses very ugly, the only thing I like about them is the electronic destination sign. I don't know if we should call them Cutaway, to me a cutaway is more like STM uses on the 251. Those used by CIT Rousillon are short school buses.

I think I know what you are talking about, SURF has some too, manufactured by Mercedes, and used on the Rosemere Train Station runs.

I had the displeasure of riding a cutaway due to mis-understanding, thinking that the Classic I was on didn't go as far as I needed to, when in fact it went way beyond that.

When I reached my destination, I saw one of these school buses, I'd put them at around 30'.

IMO, they aren't as bad as cutaway, but if Nova made shorter versions of the LFS, I'm sure they would have some business for them, QC transit companies aren't used to using shorter models since we haven't been able to purchase them since the New Looks, due to no "Baby Classics" having been produced (apart from a TA mod).

I would like to ride one of these "school buses", and compare it to the awful ride of a "genuine cutaway", me thinks it will be much much smoother.

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