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I see @Blue Bus Fan has already added them to the Wiki, but more Arboc buses have been announced for systems in southeastern BC:

  • 5 units to Kimberley (should replace their entire fleet, plus one new bus)
  • 1 unit to Cranbrook (likely replacing the Sprinter)
  • 1 unit to Elk Valley (replacing the backup Arboc)

This means we're up to 36 high-floor cutaways and 22 low-floor cutaways, for a total of 57. Still a couple more places to be announced if they're to get to that announced 70-bus level. Smaller systems still running diesel Arbocs that could be candidates for the remaining units this year include: Ashcroft-Cache Creek-Clinton (2), Clearwater (1 Sprinter), Creston Valley (4), Osoyoos (2), Powell River (5), Quesnel (5), Revelstoke (5), Trail (2 Sprinters), Williams Lake (3)

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Stumbled across 8110, 9754, 9755, 9052, and 9062 at a scrap yard in Squamish this afternoon

I'll preface this by saying I'm not affiliated with BC Transit, nor do I communicate with any employees on a regular basis; so the rest of this post will be speculation or repeating what I've heard el

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1 hour ago, Articulated said:

I see @Blue Bus Fan has already added them to the Wiki, but more Arboc buses have been announced for systems in southeastern BC:

  • 5 units to Kimberley (should replace their entire fleet, plus one new bus)
  • 1 unit to Cranbrook (likely replacing the Sprinter)
  • 1 unit to Elk Valley (replacing the backup Arboc)

This means we're up to 36 high-floor cutaways and 22 low-floor cutaways, for a total of 57. Still a couple more places to be announced if they're to get to that announced 70-bus level. Smaller systems still running diesel Arbocs that could be candidates for the remaining units this year include: Ashcroft-Cache Creek-Clinton (2), Clearwater (1 Sprinter), Creston Valley (4), Osoyoos (2), Powell River (5), Quesnel (5), Revelstoke (5), Trail (2 Sprinters), Williams Lake (3)

I'm a little perplexed by the need for five units in Kimberly - looking at their schedule, they would need two buses for the 22 and one for the 21 (as it operates on a non-stop back-and-forth schedule)... making three buses. Let's say you also have one as backup, that's four. What's the fifth bus for? It seems like a great deal of excess costs to maintain a fleet of five buses when the most that will be on the road at any one time is three. 

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11 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

I'm a little perplexed by the need for five units in Kimberly - looking at their schedule, they would need two buses for the 22 and one for the 21 (as it operates on a non-stop back-and-forth schedule)... making three buses. Let's say you also have one as backup, that's four. What's the fifth bus for? It seems like a great deal of excess costs to maintain a fleet of five buses when the most that will be on the road at any one time is three. 

Only two buses are required for the 21 and 22... the 21's first trip is not until the first AM 22 returns to Kimberley, and the last 21 trip arrives back in Kimberley before the first PM 22 departs. However, the 23 requires its own bus, and the On-Request/HandyDART service in town would also need a bus dedicated to it (although the hours could likely work around when the other three are not running scheduled service).

With 3 buses in service, you need more than one spare unit. With 4 buses, you're likely always going to have one unit off the road for regular servicing and maintenance. So what happens when one of the three on the road breaks down or needs to be changed off? It also doesn't accommodate for any long-term repairs such as collision repair, which means you could be running with zero spares for a couple of weeks. While a 25% spare ratio sounds great in the context of a large fleet, you need to think about how that might actually work in practice for a smaller fleet.

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There are at least a couple of dozen new Yaxings for BCT parked at Cullen in Port Kells. Numbers are in the low 4200s. I confirmed 4225, 4226 and 4230.

Also, this morning three other Yaxings were spotted driving on Highway 17 near 104th Avenue eastbound. I didn't catch the number on the first one, but the other two were 4456 and 4457. Not sure where they were coming from or where they were headed.

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13 minutes ago, MCW Metrobus said:

There are at least a couple of dozen new Yaxings for BCT parked at Cullen in Port Kells. Numbers are in the low 4200s. I confirmed 4225, 4226 and 4230.

Also, this morning three other Yaxings were spotted driving on Highway 17 near 104th Avenue eastbound. I didn't catch the number on the first one, but the other two were 4456 and 4457. Not sure where they were coming from or where they were headed.

Sorry for the "dumb person" question... what's the difference between a Grande West and a Yaxing? Is the Grande West just a licensed model, or is it the North American branding for the Yaxing Vicinity? 

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1 hour ago, MCW Metrobus said:

There are at least a couple of dozen new Yaxings for BCT parked at Cullen in Port Kells. Numbers are in the low 4200s. I confirmed 4225, 4226 and 4230.

Also, this morning three other Yaxings were spotted driving on Highway 17 near 104th Avenue eastbound. I didn't catch the number on the first one, but the other two were 4456 and 4457. Not sure where they were coming from or where they were headed.

From posts on Facebook, 4425-4233 were supposedly being stored until the new CFV garage opens, and they can accept CNG fueled buses.

4456 and 4457 were allocated to Victoria; not sure why they are being moved, or where to.

55 minutes ago, InfiNorth said:

Is the Grande West just a licensed model, or is it the North American branding for the Yaxing Vicinity? 

I think the easiest answer to your questions is "yes".

In simplistic terms, the Grande West Vicinity started as a modified version of one of Yaxing's models, including the use of more North American-standard parts. It is still manufactured in China by Yaxing, but under Grande West branding, and many of the original demonstrators (such as BC Transit's 7130) and even early production models were officially Yaxing buses when looking at the builder's plate. This is kind of the extent of my knowledge; I cannot positively say who owns the design/licensing rights at this point, or any other legal-type matters.

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2 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

Sorry for the "dumb person" question... what's the difference between a Grande West and a Yaxing? Is the Grande West just a licensed model, or is it the North American branding for the Yaxing Vicinity? 

The easiest way to think of it is how New Flyer brands the ADL Enviro 200 as a "New Flyer MiDi" in North America. Mind you, that was before NFI acquired ADL, so it's probably only a matter of time before the Enviro 500 starts being branded as a "New Flyer DD45LF"...

 

1 hour ago, Articulated said:

In simplistic terms, the Grande West Vicinity started as a modified version of one of Yaxing's models, including the use of more North American-standard parts. It is still manufactured in China by Yaxing, but under Grande West branding, and many of the original demonstrators (such as BC Transit's 7130) and even early production models were officially Yaxing buses when looking at the builder's plate.

It was a Yaxing JS6830GHP, to be exact. I think the badging even appeared on the rear of the bus. Unfortunately I don't have any photos to confirm, I would have taken photos of 7130 from every angle when I saw it at the Squamish garage during the 2010 Olympics, but those photos were lost in a hard drive crash several years ago. Perhaps the folks who were with me that day have photos; most of them are active on this board.

Out of interest, the literal translation of "Yaxing" from Chinese results in "Asian Star" in English. I have never seen Yaxing buses in Xi Jinping's country branded that way, but I have seen King Long buses branded using the direct English translation "Golden Dragon".

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4215 was involved in a roll over less than an hour ago. Drive was the only occupant and there’s no word on their condition.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJFbgH5DILr/?igshid=zpnlwov102yw

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cheknews.ca/bc-transit-bus-crash-in-langford-traffic-delays-on-tch-728441/%3Famp

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3 hours ago, MCW Metrobus said:

It was a Yaxing JS6830GHP, to be exact. I think the badging even appeared on the rear of the bus. Unfortunately I don't have any photos to confirm, I would have taken photos of 7130 from every angle when I saw it at the Squamish garage during the 2010 Olympics, but those photos were lost in a hard drive crash several years ago. Perhaps the folks who were with me that day have photos; most of them are active on this board.

Not from the same day, but I do have a rear shot of 7130.  It didn't have any model badging on the rear when I shot it.

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As a general note for the Wiki, 4215 is destroyed after a very serious incident at Leigh Road - flipped onto its side and completely munched up the entire right side of the bus. Videos aren't forever, so I'll link them along with a screenshot from one of them.

 

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3 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

As a general note for the Wiki, 4215 is destroyed after a very serious incident at Leigh Road - flipped onto its side and completely munched up the entire right side of the bus. Videos aren't forever, so I'll link them along with a screenshot from one of them.

 

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Does warranty cover for this? Honestly it doesn’t look unfixable. I’ve seen worst be fixed.

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10 hours ago, Orion6784 said:

Aren't all the units from the 8096-8117 series retired? I notice that they are still listed as active on the BC Transit main wiki page.

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