Articulated Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 I see @Blue Bus Fan has already added them to the Wiki, but more Arboc buses have been announced for systems in southeastern BC: 5 units to Kimberley (should replace their entire fleet, plus one new bus) 1 unit to Cranbrook (likely replacing the Sprinter) 1 unit to Elk Valley (replacing the backup Arboc) This means we're up to 36 high-floor cutaways and 22 low-floor cutaways, for a total of 57. Still a couple more places to be announced if they're to get to that announced 70-bus level. Smaller systems still running diesel Arbocs that could be candidates for the remaining units this year include: Ashcroft-Cache Creek-Clinton (2), Clearwater (1 Sprinter), Creston Valley (4), Osoyoos (2), Powell River (5), Quesnel (5), Revelstoke (5), Trail (2 Sprinters), Williams Lake (3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiNorth Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Articulated said: I see @Blue Bus Fan has already added them to the Wiki, but more Arboc buses have been announced for systems in southeastern BC: 5 units to Kimberley (should replace their entire fleet, plus one new bus) 1 unit to Cranbrook (likely replacing the Sprinter) 1 unit to Elk Valley (replacing the backup Arboc) This means we're up to 36 high-floor cutaways and 22 low-floor cutaways, for a total of 57. Still a couple more places to be announced if they're to get to that announced 70-bus level. Smaller systems still running diesel Arbocs that could be candidates for the remaining units this year include: Ashcroft-Cache Creek-Clinton (2), Clearwater (1 Sprinter), Creston Valley (4), Osoyoos (2), Powell River (5), Quesnel (5), Revelstoke (5), Trail (2 Sprinters), Williams Lake (3) I'm a little perplexed by the need for five units in Kimberly - looking at their schedule, they would need two buses for the 22 and one for the 21 (as it operates on a non-stop back-and-forth schedule)... making three buses. Let's say you also have one as backup, that's four. What's the fifth bus for? It seems like a great deal of excess costs to maintain a fleet of five buses when the most that will be on the road at any one time is three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 hours ago, InfiNorth said: I'm a little perplexed by the need for five units in Kimberly - looking at their schedule, they would need two buses for the 22 and one for the 21 (as it operates on a non-stop back-and-forth schedule)... making three buses. Let's say you also have one as backup, that's four. What's the fifth bus for? It seems like a great deal of excess costs to maintain a fleet of five buses when the most that will be on the road at any one time is three. Only two buses are required for the 21 and 22... the 21's first trip is not until the first AM 22 returns to Kimberley, and the last 21 trip arrives back in Kimberley before the first PM 22 departs. However, the 23 requires its own bus, and the On-Request/HandyDART service in town would also need a bus dedicated to it (although the hours could likely work around when the other three are not running scheduled service). With 3 buses in service, you need more than one spare unit. With 4 buses, you're likely always going to have one unit off the road for regular servicing and maintenance. So what happens when one of the three on the road breaks down or needs to be changed off? It also doesn't accommodate for any long-term repairs such as collision repair, which means you could be running with zero spares for a couple of weeks. While a 25% spare ratio sounds great in the context of a large fleet, you need to think about how that might actually work in practice for a smaller fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Translink69 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Spotted 7 BCT XN40s in Port Kells on Wednesday afternoon, and saw one of the new Arboc shuttles travelling westbound on Highway 1 right after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW Metrobus Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 There are at least a couple of dozen new Yaxings for BCT parked at Cullen in Port Kells. Numbers are in the low 4200s. I confirmed 4225, 4226 and 4230. Also, this morning three other Yaxings were spotted driving on Highway 17 near 104th Avenue eastbound. I didn't catch the number on the first one, but the other two were 4456 and 4457. Not sure where they were coming from or where they were headed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiNorth Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, MCW Metrobus said: There are at least a couple of dozen new Yaxings for BCT parked at Cullen in Port Kells. Numbers are in the low 4200s. I confirmed 4225, 4226 and 4230. Also, this morning three other Yaxings were spotted driving on Highway 17 near 104th Avenue eastbound. I didn't catch the number on the first one, but the other two were 4456 and 4457. Not sure where they were coming from or where they were headed. Sorry for the "dumb person" question... what's the difference between a Grande West and a Yaxing? Is the Grande West just a licensed model, or is it the North American branding for the Yaxing Vicinity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MCW Metrobus said: There are at least a couple of dozen new Yaxings for BCT parked at Cullen in Port Kells. Numbers are in the low 4200s. I confirmed 4225, 4226 and 4230. Also, this morning three other Yaxings were spotted driving on Highway 17 near 104th Avenue eastbound. I didn't catch the number on the first one, but the other two were 4456 and 4457. Not sure where they were coming from or where they were headed. From posts on Facebook, 4425-4233 were supposedly being stored until the new CFV garage opens, and they can accept CNG fueled buses. 4456 and 4457 were allocated to Victoria; not sure why they are being moved, or where to. 55 minutes ago, InfiNorth said: Is the Grande West just a licensed model, or is it the North American branding for the Yaxing Vicinity? I think the easiest answer to your questions is "yes". In simplistic terms, the Grande West Vicinity started as a modified version of one of Yaxing's models, including the use of more North American-standard parts. It is still manufactured in China by Yaxing, but under Grande West branding, and many of the original demonstrators (such as BC Transit's 7130) and even early production models were officially Yaxing buses when looking at the builder's plate. This is kind of the extent of my knowledge; I cannot positively say who owns the design/licensing rights at this point, or any other legal-type matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW Metrobus Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, InfiNorth said: Sorry for the "dumb person" question... what's the difference between a Grande West and a Yaxing? Is the Grande West just a licensed model, or is it the North American branding for the Yaxing Vicinity? The easiest way to think of it is how New Flyer brands the ADL Enviro 200 as a "New Flyer MiDi" in North America. Mind you, that was before NFI acquired ADL, so it's probably only a matter of time before the Enviro 500 starts being branded as a "New Flyer DD45LF"... 1 hour ago, Articulated said: In simplistic terms, the Grande West Vicinity started as a modified version of one of Yaxing's models, including the use of more North American-standard parts. It is still manufactured in China by Yaxing, but under Grande West branding, and many of the original demonstrators (such as BC Transit's 7130) and even early production models were officially Yaxing buses when looking at the builder's plate. It was a Yaxing JS6830GHP, to be exact. I think the badging even appeared on the rear of the bus. Unfortunately I don't have any photos to confirm, I would have taken photos of 7130 from every angle when I saw it at the Squamish garage during the 2010 Olympics, but those photos were lost in a hard drive crash several years ago. Perhaps the folks who were with me that day have photos; most of them are active on this board. Out of interest, the literal translation of "Yaxing" from Chinese results in "Asian Star" in English. I have never seen Yaxing buses in Xi Jinping's country branded that way, but I have seen King Long buses branded using the direct English translation "Golden Dragon". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomasw Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 4215 was involved in a roll over less than an hour ago. Drive was the only occupant and there’s no word on their condition. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJFbgH5DILr/?igshid=zpnlwov102yw https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cheknews.ca/bc-transit-bus-crash-in-langford-traffic-delays-on-tch-728441/%3Famp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Marriott Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, MCW Metrobus said: It was a Yaxing JS6830GHP, to be exact. I think the badging even appeared on the rear of the bus. Unfortunately I don't have any photos to confirm, I would have taken photos of 7130 from every angle when I saw it at the Squamish garage during the 2010 Olympics, but those photos were lost in a hard drive crash several years ago. Perhaps the folks who were with me that day have photos; most of them are active on this board. Not from the same day, but I do have a rear shot of 7130. It didn't have any model badging on the rear when I shot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiNorth Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 As a general note for the Wiki, 4215 is destroyed after a very serious incident at Leigh Road - flipped onto its side and completely munched up the entire right side of the bus. Videos aren't forever, so I'll link them along with a screenshot from one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomasw Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, InfiNorth said: As a general note for the Wiki, 4215 is destroyed after a very serious incident at Leigh Road - flipped onto its side and completely munched up the entire right side of the bus. Videos aren't forever, so I'll link them along with a screenshot from one of them. Does warranty cover for this? Honestly it doesn’t look unfixable. I’ve seen worst be fixed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiNorth Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 BC Transit appears to have received their first of many new deckers in Victoria. Anyone know when these roll out and what exactly they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd320 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 9818 has been brought down to Squamish from Whistler to be scrapped. 1142 has once again returned to Whistler for the ski season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6784 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Aren't all the units from the 8096-8117 series retired? I notice that they are still listed as active on the BC Transit main wiki page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV92 Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Orion6784 said: Aren't all the units from the 8096-8117 series retired? I notice that they are still listed as active on the BC Transit main wiki page. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenrichYT Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 98nice (9869) has been retired 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZ350 Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 On 3/1/2021 at 3:10 PM, KenrichYT said: 98nice (9869) has been retired Not quite yet it hasn't. still in our inventory, and plated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Shuttle Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 9753 was spotted waiting to get on a ferry at Swartz Bay today. It was moving under its own power. Does anyone know where it's going? Hopefully not to scrap since most of them were salvaged for parts before they were towed off to scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 9753 is now owned by the Transit Museum Society. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Shuttle Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Dane said: 9753 is now owned by the Transit Museum Society. That must be the one exception to BC Transit selling heavy units. I did see some (somewhat cryptic) conversation that hinted at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Shuttle Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 Editors: I would refrain from adding any info on the current ownership of 9753 until the TMS makes an official announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiNorth Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 17 hours ago, Dane said: 9753 is now owned by the Transit Museum Society. Really sad that one of the original deckers couldn't head over to them. Seems like a historically relevant selection to have in the collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Shuttle Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, InfiNorth said: Really sad that one of the original deckers couldn't head over to them. Seems like a historically relevant selection to have in the collection. We don't have anywhere to store a decker right now and I believe these would be too tall for Metro Vancouver anyway (IIRC these are full height, not reduced height like the TL deckers). Also, 9001 has already been chosen and prepared for preservation elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiNorth Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 15 hours ago, Community Shuttle said: We don't have anywhere to store a decker right now and I believe these would be too tall for Metro Vancouver anyway (IIRC these are full height, not reduced height like the TL deckers). Also, 9001 has already been chosen and prepared for preservation elsewhere. I still find it sad. It's always disappointing when local history goes abroad instead of remaining where it "grew up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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