ZümmyZüm Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Last 3 remaining x3-45s have been removed from the Ex first student / greyhound lot, I didn’t see them inside either. Will try and get a better look during the day next time I’m in the area edit: Ottawa location Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 11 hours ago, ZümmyZüm said: Last 3 remaining x3-45s have been removed from the Ex first student / greyhound lot, I didn’t see them inside either. Will try and get a better look during the day next time I’m in the area edit: Ottawa location I wonder if they where sold off or moved to the US? Link to post Share on other sites
MCIBUS Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 9 hours ago, Shaun said: I wonder if they where sold off or moved to the US? Unless they had Wheel Chair Lifts, they where either sold or maybe moved to Toronto. Link to post Share on other sites
ZümmyZüm Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 12 hours ago, Shaun said: I wonder if they where sold off or moved to the US? 2 hours ago, MCIBUS said: Unless they had Wheel Chair Lifts, they where either sold or maybe moved to Toronto. The Ex- first Canada buses were not wheelchair lift equipped, if they haven’t been transferred to Toronto it’s likely they’ve been sold, since they were recently deep cleaned and plastic wrapped seats + back sealed off with tarp from the drivers area, I’m aiming towards sold the other x3-45s ( 8870-8888 ) are equipped with wheelchair lifts and could be dispatched down South Link to post Share on other sites
Articulated Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 On 1/11/2021 at 8:52 PM, ZümmyZüm said: The Ex- first Canada buses were not wheelchair lift equipped, if they haven’t been transferred to Toronto it’s likely they’ve been sold, since they were recently deep cleaned and plastic wrapped seats + back sealed off with tarp from the drivers area, I’m aiming towards sold the other x3-45s ( 8870-8888 ) are equipped with wheelchair lifts and could be dispatched down South That's not correct - 18 of the 35 ex-First X3-45 coaches were retrofitted with wheelchair lifts shortly after being transferred to Greyhound. A number of them (including some of the ones with wheelchair lifts) have since been transferred back out west to operate on some of First's contracts. I don't know the exact number or which units, other than them still wearing the Greyhound livery wrap. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
INowKnowwhY Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 16 hours ago, Articulated said: That's not correct - 18 of the 35 ex-First X3-45 coaches were retrofitted with wheelchair lifts shortly after being transferred to Greyhound. A number of them (including some of the ones with wheelchair lifts) have since been transferred back out west to operate on some of First's contracts. I don't know the exact number or which units, other than them still wearing the Greyhound livery wrap. 21 to be exact. 0634 to 0654 were all sent to Prevost in Mississauga for wheelchair lift installation. A buddy of mine that works in the parts department says that those were the nastiest buses that ever came through the shop, clunks of sand stuck in every crevice, inside and out Link to post Share on other sites
Articulated Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 6 hours ago, INowKnowwhY said: 21 to be exact. 0634 to 0654 were all sent to Prevost in Mississauga for wheelchair lift installation. A buddy of mine that works in the parts department says that those were the nastiest buses that ever came through the shop, clunks of sand stuck in every crevice, inside and out Good to know, thanks. I had not been able to visually confirm whether 0637-0639 had lifts installed. Everyone that I've heard that has worked on these buses has said the same thing, those buses got oil sands dirt caked on everywhere you could imagine, and a bunch of places you couldn't! Link to post Share on other sites
traildriver Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Just an off topic comment here...my company had some Prevost XLII's retrofitted with wheelchair lifts (by ABC in Minnesota), and they were a source of much trouble...I would never buy a used one of those... Link to post Share on other sites
Megabus Rider Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, traildriver said: Just an off topic comment here...my company had some Prevost XLII's retrofitted with wheelchair lifts (by ABC in Minnesota), and they were a source of much trouble...I would never buy a used one of those... In general with Prevost, the door is trouble some, it has a Interlock system and you have open and close many times just to release the brakes. You stated that it was done at ABC, while I respect ABC's craftsmanship, I am not sure if they're Prevost certified in which the trouble could be that it was not done at the Manufacturer's facility but rather a third party that sells a rival brand. I am sure if Trailways NY had it done by Prevost, the trouble you speak of may have been limited to just the door. Link to post Share on other sites
ns8401 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 5 hours ago, Megabus Rider said: In general with Prevost, the door is trouble some, it has a Interlock system and you have open and close many times just to release the brakes. You stated that it was done at ABC, while I respect ABC's craftsmanship, I am not sure if they're Prevost certified in which the trouble could be that it was not done at the Manufacturer's facility but rather a third party that sells a rival brand. I am sure if Trailways NY had it done by Prevost, the trouble you speak of may have been limited to just the door. Not all Prevosts have an interlock. Some of the X3’s you can flip the wheelchair switch off and move it with the door wide open. They also move when knelt if you play with them. Then there are the times it tells you the door is open while driving down the road... All MCI’s require heaven and earth to move if so much as a single thing is out of adjustment with the kneeler or the lift or any other of a hundred things. I always preferred the MCI’s ... the Prevosts are a little on the shop-Queen heavy side. Almost never got back home without 6 things wrong with them. Link to post Share on other sites
Megabus Rider Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 57 minutes ago, ns8401 said: Not all Prevosts have an interlock. Some of the X3’s you can flip the wheelchair switch off and move it with the door wide open. They also move when knelt if you play with them. Then there are the times it tells you the door is open while driving down the road... All MCI’s require heaven and earth to move if so much as a single thing is out of adjustment with the kneeler or the lift or any other of a hundred things. I always preferred the MCI’s ... the Prevosts are a little on the shop-Queen heavy side. Almost never got back home without 6 things wrong with them. Could be Customer Spec. Link to post Share on other sites
ns8401 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, Megabus Rider said: Could be Customer Spec. Possible. But given that it’s a Prevost it could just be a module failure. They seem to eat electrical and computer components and alternators... they eat those for breakfast. The really fun problem on an X3 is when that sliding door simply falls off the track. I had that happen twice. Both times the bolts simply came loose and fell off and the door became precariously stuck open. The ultimate experience indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
traildriver Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Micro-switches are both a blessing, and a curse...more often the latter, in my experience. Guess I prefer the era of the beginning of my career, when the driver's human senses, were the 'computer', as far as detecting defects in a coach... Link to post Share on other sites
ZümmyZüm Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 On 1/13/2021 at 11:53 AM, Articulated said: That's not correct - 18 of the 35 ex-First X3-45 coaches were retrofitted with wheelchair lifts shortly after being transferred to Greyhound. A number of them (including some of the ones with wheelchair lifts) have since been transferred back out west to operate on some of First's contracts. I don't know the exact number or which units, other than them still wearing the Greyhound livery wrap. Thanks for the correction, I remember looking at them and not seeing the typical lift door where the windows are, however just went to some old photos of 0653 and it’s clearly there Link to post Share on other sites
ns8401 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 5 hours ago, traildriver said: Micro-switches are both a blessing, and a curse...more often the latter, in my experience. Guess I prefer the era of the beginning of my career, when the driver's human senses, were the 'computer', as far as detecting defects in a coach... There are times I wish that we didn’t have the computer control. I will keep the power steering if it’s ok with you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
traildriver Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 9 hours ago, ns8401 said: There are times I wish that we didn’t have the computer control. I will keep the power steering if it’s ok with you. In an MCI or GM....yes, keep the power steering. In an Eagle? Don't need power steering.... Link to post Share on other sites
MVTArider Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM IL87003 seen boarding passengers at the Saint Paul Union Depot last week. The updated front end looks pretty sharp with the Greyhound livery: Greyhound Lines 87003 by J. Mc., on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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