t_harris01 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Hello... Me and my girlfriend are looking to buy a GM new look from A-1 soon and we are thinking of starting a transit system as Greyhound currently is not providing any sort of service maybe 2 times a day excluding sundre... If anyone knows where to order a destination sign, farebox or wants to help out in establishing this transit service or be provide information where to obtain these items call 475-6386 or email trevorharris33@hotmail.com thanks Trevor Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted May 19, 2008 Board Admin Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Running a bus service can be expensive. But if there is demand for it, that's awesome. Take into consideration liability insurance and rising fuel costs. Not sure what other regional costs there are/permits would need to be obtained, but I would be interested to find out. Some of ETS's old buses (also bought from A1) run in Calgary. I'm sure some of those buses already have fareboxes, but eBay might be a good place to look. Not sure where you can order destination signs though. The best I can do for you is print large banners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Bus 12 that was in A1 yard already has a sign in it but we might use it and just maybe paint over some old parts of it and put our routes in it... i will look at ebay for fareboxes...and i wonder if the best option is to ask the town of olds,sundre and didsbury what they require and with fuel we can handle that thats fine...and what is the best coimpany to look up for insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hey; Anyone know how many km to a liter a New Look bus get's? I can't find anything anywhere. Thanks: The Girlfreind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaintrolley Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Keep in mind an old bus will never be as efficient as it was brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hey;Anyone know how many km to a liter a New Look bus get's? I can't find anything anywhere. Thanks: The Girlfreind A tech told me that a Jimmy consumes more fuel then a D60LFR here in Calgary, Keep in mind on the highway those things rev pretty high and barley do 90Km/h. Have you considered a ex-greyhound bus, they will perform better then a jimmy and may get better fuel economy and reliability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 ya but we r fine with a GM first for local service but will look into a ex greyhound soon for longer distances...we might have the 35 ft jimmy for a camper if dont work out with a transit system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Well I always wanted to start a Transit in Fergus and Elora. But if you want to start your transit system i would start with a 30-35 foot LF or HF bus. If you are buying a New Look, what would you back-up unit be? What would your livery be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Our back up would come when we make enough in fares and stuff or maybe get contracted by the cities they can can pay for another bus...and we only came up with colours not a logo or anything yet but would be called mountain view transit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck600 Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 If you're travelling between towns you'll also need licensing from the province. In my opinion you probably should work in the bus industry first to get some experience before jumping in with both feet cold turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted May 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 well we wanna travel between towns but if we can we might start in one town only at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck600 Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 You had better check with the alberta ministry of transportation about licensing then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmx218 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 well we wanna travel between towns but if we can we might start in one town only at first Well, I'll give you my two cents worth here. From experience, I bought Ex-Edmonton Transit #22 from A1 Auto Salvage. It was a great bus and I got it for a good price, just needed lots of work. Just to give you an estimated run down on cost, here you go: -Expect to spend about $3500-4000 + taxes for new tires (plus the cost of mounting and alignment/balancing) -Paint job will cost you around $8000-$13,000 -undercarriage work (brakes, drums, bushings, bearings, king pins, etc) will probably cost you around $6000-$9000 -new batteries about $300 and that's just an estimate based upon prices I was quoted for back in 2005, I'd probably add about 3-4% minimum to these prices for inflation. From there, you will need to get a provincial safety inspection every 6 months, costing about $200-300 depending on the shop as well. And finally if you do wish to operate from town to town, especially where Greyhound or some other bus line already operates, you must have an operating authority certificate or your service can be shut down by Alberta Infrastructure. So I'd probably say you will be looking at $20,000 to $30,000 in expenses to repair the bus to provincial safety standards (Based upon an average of what I had to do on my bus, it will be different with your bus), plus figure on about another $1000 for licensing and inspections too. Since a previous post you asked about fuel mileage, I got an average of about 2.08 km/liter of diesel. With the price of diesel at about $1.33/liter, it'll cost you roughly $0.63/km in fuel. This estimate was based upon an average speed of 45km/hr tested over a 3 day period doing about 100 km a day with a bus with the same configuration as the one you are looking at buying. Attached is a photo of my bus after it was restored, taken April 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Maybe your back-up bus can be a Ford mini bus. For temporary use untill you get the other large bus. Then your ford can be a Paratransit bus for you fleet. somthing like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Attached is a photo of my bus after it was restored, taken April 2008 Hey what ever happened to your bus, it was parked at VP for a month or so. Did you sell it to ETS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted May 24, 2008 Board Admin Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 You could check out http://www.rbauction.com/equipment_search/...arch_type=Other which member DRT posted in an Edmonton thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted May 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Ok well what if we wanted to start with a transit system in Olds...who do we talk to and stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersar Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Best bet would be to start with talking to the Town itself, particularly with their economic development group (http://www.town.olds.ab.ca/ecdev.html) who should be able to help you about any specific-to-olds things that are required. Then probably with Alberta Transportation about licenses, etc, that you may need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted May 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 thanx..i know olds is growing like crazy and just by looking at the map of olds i cna easily make 2 or 3 bus routes....but it probably would be hourly service for alil bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid0920 Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 What about bus stops, how would you do that? People need to know where they can catch the bus, then some way where they can "call" to tell when the bus comes, like a bus check. - you will need to allign all the routes, and figure out a schedule. - figure out a fare. - have a convienent place to store the bus. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted May 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 bus stops we r in the process of designing...we r juist going to have a customer service number and maybe try to make a deal mwith a school bus company to store the bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 You maybe in luck. I found a 1967 GM Bus that is rebuilt. it`s only $1,000.00, but there is a problem with the clutch but if you can find someone to fix it in you area then that`s good. This is a odd looking New Look but here it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted June 2, 2008 Board Admin Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Someone had fun messing with the structure of that... Might take another $1000 to get it into Canada, if they even allowed it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. McConnell Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 You maybe in luck. I found a 1967 GM Bus that is rebuilt. it`s only $1,000.00, but there is a problem with the clutch but if you can find someone to fix it in you area then that`s good.This is a odd looking New Look but here it is. That looks like it was rebuilt by Midwest Bus Corp as a "Phoenix". IIRC, some were rebuilt with Classic-style side windows and RTS-04-style rear ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Anyone have any info on what's the latest of this possible new service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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