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Can't remember if some of this was mentioned already, but it has been announced that Calgary Transit has ordered 43, 40 foot buses. These buses are already apparently on the assembly line at NFI, so we should be seeing them beginning to arrive any day now. As for the 6 articulated buses, they have already been discussed on this board already AFAIK. These are supposed to be arriving in the Spring of this coming year.

Are we going to get D40LF's or D40LFR's?

Anyways, some pictures for David if he reads the Calgary threads, Bell Wrap in Calgary...

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This morning when I finished work at Victoria Park Garage. I walked through the shops and spotted a brand new all white Ford E450 cutaway which was identical to the most recent ones we already have in service (# 's 1863 to 1883). This one has no markings or anything in the way of fleet numbers. Are we receiving more of these? Or is this the only one and was to replace #1825 which was wrecked earlier this year?

Are we going to get D40LF's or D40LFR's?

Anyways, some pictures for David if he reads the Calgary threads, Bell Wrap in Calgary...

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I believe we are getting the regular D40LF style. I have been told that the new LFR style costs a bit more, so I kinda doubt we are getting the LFR style. I wish we would. We seriously need something different soon!

As for the "Bell Wraps", I have seen at least 3 different units wrapped like that one. #7550 would make it at least 4 now since I didn't know about that one!

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This morning when I finished work at Victoria Park Garage. I walked through the shops and spotted a brand new all white Ford E450 cutaway which was identical to the most recent ones we already have in service (# 's 1863 to 1883). This one has no markings or anything in the way of fleet numbers. Are we receiving more of these? Or is this the only one and was to replace #1825 which was wrecked earlier this year?

Ok! Found out that this new shuttle IS a replacement for the wrecked #1825. I wonder if it will be numbered 1825 or if it will become #1884.

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Recently some of the 1998 and 1999 Ford E450-Crestline GC-II shuttle were sold at Canadian Public Auction. Here is a list of how much they sold for. There is a repeated typo in there, these are not Goshen bodies on these buses, they are all Crestline GC-II bodies.

Anyone know how much these Ford-Crestline products cost brand new, I've heard about $80 000 per unit.

2074 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F8XHB94246 c/w $3,000.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2075 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F0XHB94242 c/w $3,000.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2076 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F4XHA62147 c/w $3,250.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2077 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F2XHB94243 c/w $3,000.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2078 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F4XHB94244 c/w $2,500.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2079 1998 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F7WHC03310 c/w $3,600.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2080 1998 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F0WHC03309 c/w $2,500.00

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Recently some of the 1998 and 1999 Ford E450-Crestline GC-II shuttle were sold at Canadian Public Auction. Here is a list of how much they sold for. There is a repeated typo in there, these are not Goshen bodies on these buses, they are all Crestline GC-II bodies.

Anyone know how much these Ford-Crestline products cost brand new, I've heard about $80 000 per unit.

2074 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F8XHB94246 c/w $3,000.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2075 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F0XHB94242 c/w $3,000.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2076 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F4XHA62147 c/w $3,250.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2077 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F2XHB94243 c/w $3,000.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2078 1999 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F4XHB94244 c/w $2,500.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2079 1998 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F7WHC03310 c/w $3,600.00

Diesel Power, Auto Trans.

2080 1998 Ford Goshen II 22 Passenger Shuttle Bus S/N 1FDXE40F0WHC03309 c/w $2,500.00

Vancouver could surely use some of these second-hand shuttle buses...........we're still busy converting conventional bus routes to shuttle routes! :blink:

Dave

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Most of them are in pretty rough shape, atleast the body. The mechanical is probably a bit better off, but probably not that great.

Most of the bodies need some serious work as there is rust and corrosion all over.

Mike brings up a good point, wouldn't be surprised if CT doesn't really take as much care of their shuttles, knowing that they are only going to use them for 5-7 years before getting rid of them.

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A bit of fleet news - Calgary Transit:

Spotted #5031 back on the road after being recently being refurbed. Today I found #5060 inside the Garage on Lane 19 with no fleet numbers except for the ones on the rear window which were added back in the late 1990's on many buses. #5060 is very recently delivered after being refurbed out East in Ontario. Also, found #975 parked outside behind the Garage, but not too sure what is happening with this one. It may possibly be retired now. No Power Steering in this one. #7543 was found parked inside the shops freshly refurbed with no stripes or decals as well.

Pics of #5060 freshly rebuilt can be found in the General Photography - Indoor shots Thread on this board at this direct link:

http://www.etspe.ca/cptdb/index.php?showtopic=1200

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A bit of fleet news - Calgary Transit:

Spotted #5031 back on the road after being recently being refurbed. Today I found #5060 inside the Garage on Lane 19 with no fleet numbers except for the ones on the rear window which were added back in the late 1990's on many buses. #5060 is very recently delivered after being refurbed out East in Ontario. Also, found #975 parked outside behind the Garage, but not too sure what is happening with this one. It may possibly be retired now. No Power Steering in this one. #7543 was found parked inside the shops freshly refurbed with no stripes or decals as well.

Pics of #5060 freshly rebuilt can be found in the General Photography - Indoor shots Thread on this board at this direct link:

http://www.etspe.ca/cptdb/index.php?showtopic=1200

Calgary Transit doesn't have their own overhaul facilities?

Dave

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The refurbing was put out to tender a while back and I would assume that the resulting bids were compared against costs to do the refurbs in house

In-house rebuild is usually much cheaper than sending it outside. I guess CT doesn't have time to fix on their own.

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In-house rebuild is usually much cheaper than sending it outside. I guess CT doesn't have time to fix on their own.

CT does their own rebuilds as well as sending them out to other companies. This has long been the practice even with the GM Fishbowls when they were being rebuilt.

I would imagine the cost is not that much greater.

Calgary Transit has its own facilities to do a rebuild, but only a few buses at a time as they need to keep most of the shop clear for my their non-rebuild work.

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CT does their own rebuilds as well as sending them out to other companies. This has long been the practice even with the GM Fishbowls when they were being rebuilt.

I would imagine the cost is not that much greater.

Calgary Transit has its own facilities to do a rebuild, but only a few buses at a time as they need to keep most of the shop clear for my non-rebuild work.

Really Kevin, you have that many buses that you're paying Calgary Transit to maintain that they have to keep their shops cleared just for you?!

Just kidding. :lol:

At the Community Transit open house last June, a guy there said that putting refurbs to competitive bidding actually comes up cheaper than doing it in house, although that may actually be more the case for a smaller system like Commtrans than for a larger system. I believe Commtrans also farms out such work as full body paintjobs.

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Really Kevin, you have that many buses that you're paying Calgary Transit to maintain that they have to keep their shops cleared just for you?!

Just kidding. :blink:

At the Community Transit open house last June, a guy there said that putting refurbs to competitive bidding actually comes up cheaper than doing it in house, although that may actually be more the case for a smaller system like Commtrans than for a larger system. I believe Commtrans also farms out such work as full body paintjobs.

:lol: I wonder how "their" somehow turned into "my" Quite strange!

I think the reason that CT sends some of their rebuilding elsewhere is not so much for increased speed. I mean there really aren't that many buses needing rebuilds that CT needs like 2 or 3 buses rebuilt a week. 2 or 3 buses a month is fine at the moment. But more likely they got a decent price for sending their work elsewhere. If it was significantly more expensive for CT to outsource some of their rebuilding, they probably wouldn't do it since there is no big rush to rebuild quickly.

Another note, 7902, the bus that became a victim in a CN train derailment is being fixed at Spring Gardens now. So it shouldn't be too long before its back on the road.

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I have heard mention of fare system upgrades, but really CT has no use for electronic fare boxes right now.

The fare system is very simple as it is, with no zone fares. I think until the system gets big enough to start having zone fares, electronic fare boxes would be a waste of money.

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The fare system is very simple as it is, with no zone fares. I think until the system gets big enough to start having zone fares, electronic fare boxes would be a waste of money.

ETS's plans to install a new fare collection system keep on showing up in budgets, but, usually as unfunded.

This could be the case in Calgary... It's planned, just they keep on having more pressing needs that require funding.

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Destination Signs on the Ex-Connecticut MCI Classics

I have been told that the old Luminator signs on the Ex-Connecticut MCI Classics are no longer workingon any of the 10 units. I am wondering if there are plans to put new or some other second hand signs in them or not. They do have 3 Vultron signs in the 3 retired D40's that may fit into those Classics. But who knows for sure.

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