Today's Special Sightings

[CFMaster]

6 hours ago, Editorum said:

TTC 8888 on 512 St. Clair 

This unit is based out of Arrow Rd and not Eglinton. Yeah big deal. It's still the same bus model as the Novas based out of Eglinton. Had it been an 8400-8617 or 9200-9239 or even a 3100-3369 unit, regardless it's the same bus just different number and different seats and seat layouts. It's all the same! Had you told us you saw an artic or 7941 resurrected from the dead or 2252 running in revenue service or CLRVs are running on the 512 and it's legitimate we'd would say yes that's quite a sighting on the 512. 

[T3G]

3 minutes ago, CFMaster said:

This unit is based out of Arrow Rd and not Eglinton. Yeah big deal. It's still the same bus model as the Novas based out of Eglinton. Had it been an 8400-8617 or 9200-9239 or even a 3100-3369 unit, regardless it's the same bus just different number and different seats and seat layouts. It's all the same! Had you told us you saw an artic or 7941 resurrected from the dead or 2252 running in revenue service or CLRVs are running on the 512 and it's legitimate we'd would say yes that's quite a sighting on the 512. 

Unfortunately, those are not the parameters of the thread.

Whether you personally find it interesting is not relevant. I certainly don't. I don't find most things posted in this thread to be interesting. But just like the old days, when an Eglinton slowbox running on a Birchmount route, or a Wilson Orion V running on a Malvern route, would have been noteworthy, so, too, is an Arrow Nova running on an Eglinton route.

I don't know why this is causing so much difficulty for you guys in the last few months. The parameters are well spelled out in the first post, not subject to the whims of random individuals - "Any buses operating outside their usual routes". Operating on an Eglinton route is an unusual assignment for an Arrow Nova, so it counts. And, yes, a broken down bus, subject to controversy a few pages ago, is also a valid thing to report: "Accidents (eg. Newlook has crashed into a light pole "god I love that statement", Orion VII 74xx has an engine fire, 70xx broke down)." Of course, the fact that most of these are not actually sightings, and just kids looking at TransSee, cheapens the value of 99% of the posts in this thread.

[81-717]

17 minutes ago, CFMaster said:

This unit is based out of Arrow Rd and not Eglinton. Yeah big deal. It's still the same bus model as the Novas based out of Eglinton. Had it been an 8400-8617 or 9200-9239 or even a 3100-3369 unit, regardless it's the same bus just different number and different seats and seat layouts. It's all the same! Had you told us you saw an artic or 7941 resurrected from the dead or 2252 running in revenue service or CLRVs are running on the 512 and it's legitimate we'd would say yes that's quite a sighting on the 512. 

Much like how back in the pre-TR days, a T1 from Wilson operating on line 2 or a T1 from Greenwood on line 1 wouldn't be nearly as special as an H5 on line 2 or H4/6 on line 1 (or, in the current days, a TR on line 2 or T1 on line 1).

[wheelindealin]

18 minutes ago, T3G said:

Unfortunately, those are not the parameters of the thread.

Whether you personally find it interesting is not relevant. I certainly don't. I don't find most things posted in this thread to be interesting. But just like the old days, when an Eglinton slowbox running on a Birchmount route, or a Wilson Orion V running on a Malvern route, would have been noteworthy, so, too, is an Arrow Nova running on an Eglinton route.

I don't know why this is causing so much difficulty for you guys in the last few months. The parameters are well spelled out in the first post, not subject to the whims of random individuals - "Any buses operating outside their usual routes". Operating on an Eglinton route is an unusual assignment for an Arrow Nova, so it counts. And, yes, a broken down bus, subject to controversy a few pages ago, is also a valid thing to report: "Accidents (eg. Newlook has crashed into a light pole "god I love that statement", Orion VII 74xx has an engine fire, 70xx broke down)." Of course, the fact that most of these are not actually sightings, and just kids looking at TransSee, cheapens the value of 99% of the posts in this thread.

Why even have 2 threads in the first place?

Over the past few months a good chunk of posts are just people arguing about what does and doesn't constitute as a "Special Sighting", rather than actual sightings themselves. And posts that are deemed not special just get re-posted into the regular sightings thread anyway so why not just consolidate the two at this point. Both threads are essentially just "I saw XXXX bus on YY route for ZZZ Transit Organization". If the sighting is special or uncommon, just mention it and people can agree or disagree after. It's redundant to have two threads that accomplish the exact same thing.

[T3G]

Oh, you'll get no disagreement from me there. I never thought that having 2 threads made any sense. It would be one thing if there was a notekeeping purpose to it (like the old vehicle retirement sightings threads), or if there was a chance for people to see the thing that was reported, but since it's just "hey guys, look at what I saw", I don't really see the need to make it stand out from the sea of irrelevant garbage. More so as some of the original functions of this thread, i.e. ad wrapped buses, new buses, retired buses, rebuilt buses have all been spun off into their own threads anyway.

I definitely would support merging the two. But until or unless such time happens, reporting these sightings is very much within the parameters of the discussion.

[CJ.]

TTC

94xx XDE60 something on 506 Carlton. 

[H4 5600]

TTC: 1407 is on the 127

[buswizzard]

On 6/5/2024 at 2:47 PM, T3G said:

The parameters are well spelled out in the first post, not subject to the whims of random individuals

Not quite, I posted something that was literally covered in the first post and ya'll said I should know better lmfao. 

[T3G]

47 minutes ago, buswizzard said:

Not quite, I posted something that was literally covered in the first post and ya'll said I should know better lmfao. 

Who's y'all?

[Highway of Heroes]

TTC: 9412 is out as a 939 Finch Express right now 

[Young]

52 minutes ago, Highway of Heroes said:

TTC: 9412 is out as a 939 Finch Express right now 

Not special 

[Crix]

TTC 8895 on 50 Burnhamthrope

[buswizzard]

18 hours ago, Young said:

Not special 

Can we just merge the threads if 90% of posts don't meet the mystical guidelines? 

[Xtrazsteve]

40 minutes ago, buswizzard said:

Can we just merge the threads if 90% of posts don't meet the mystical guidelines? 

No, The post above yours does meet that guideline. The thread has been working for so many years till you came along and got upset when told you're messing up

[wil9402]

TTC
9218 on 985B (AM Peak)
3230 on 133 (PM Peak)

[buswizzard]

4 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

No, The post above yours does meet that guideline. The thread has been working for so many years till you came along and got upset when told you're messing up

It seems every 3rd post is someone saying "not special"

[Mar_AC_23]

On 6/6/2024 at 10:20 PM, Young said:

Not special 

XDE60s aren't a common sight yet on the 939 so they are considered special sightings for now.

[Young]

44 minutes ago, Mar_AC_23 said:

XDE60s aren't a common sight yet on the 939 so they are considered special sightings for now.

I begged a differ cause it’s a mcnicoll bus on a mcnicoll route tho even if they are not common

[T3G]

Perhaps you guys should clarify what the hell the new definition of special sighting is. And do it soon, because this childish bickering is getting really tiresome to read. Everytime I open my damn news feed there's a quarrel in it. One day a person will be nitpicking whether something is a special sighting, then the next day they'll post something which someone else nitpicks as not being a special sighting. I am utterly baffled at the fact that the same person who reported an artic on Finch on this page was saying an artic on Kennedy was not special on the last page. You guys should get on the same page. And stop reporting stuff from TransSee, while you're at it. Holy God. No one cares what you saw on TransSee.

As I said before, I have very little use for this thread personally, but the logic seems to me to be quite clear. According to the TTC service summary, an official document, the 939 is not, at present, scheduled to use artics. Therefore, an artic appearing on the 939 should be special. If the sole argument against it is that it's a McNicoll bus operating on a McNicoll route, the same logic would dictate that a Wilson artic appearing, on, say, the 33 or 78 should therefore also not be special, right?

[HyperTHD]

3 hours ago, T3G said:

According to the TTC service summary, an official document, the 939 is not, at present, scheduled to use artics. Therefore, an artic appearing on the 939 should be special. If the sole argument against it is that it's a McNicoll bus operating on a McNicoll route, the same logic would dictate that a Wilson artic appearing, on, say, the 33 or 78 should therefore also not be special, right?

This was something I wasn’t sure of last week when I physically saw 1384 on the 927. In my mind, I thought it was special as Arrow doesn’t send the NG hybrids on the route given their history. However, I posted it on the daily sightings in the event that someone would say otherwise. I don’t go through the threads that much but the bickering lately made me think about staying as an observer more so as to not piss off the wrong people.

[Mar_AC_23]

If a certain bus type appears on a route that you wouldn't normally see (this includes artics) then I would consider those special sightings. If a route, in this case 939, isn't scheduled to use artics but an artic happens to appear on the route, then that should be considered a special sighting. Even if the artic is operating out of the same division that the route is, that shouldn't matter, it's still a rare occurrence.

That's my two cents on this.

[Elijah bey]

59 minutes ago, Mar_AC_23 said:

If a certain bus type appears on a route that you wouldn't normally see (this includes artics) then I would consider those special sightings. If a route, in this case 939, isn't scheduled to use artics but an artic happens to appear on the route, then that should be considered a special sighting. Even if the artic is operating out of the same division that the route is, that shouldn't matter, it's still a rare occurrence.

That's my two cents on this.

Also includes seeing a 8000's bus on the 66, 30/189 routes. That would be considered rare since it's hard to find them on those routes. 

Or if an articulated bus appears on a route that normally doesn't have them. 

Example 9013 on 125 Drewry it's the same bus division that 9013 operates on just a unusual type of bus for that route.

 

8086, 8115, 8315 

On the 66 Prince Edward 

 

[Editorum]

TTC 9415 on 43 Kennedy 

[Elijah bey]

8086, 8115, 8315 

On the 66 Prince Edward 

8086 is now on the 337 Islington blue night route also kinda rare since 8000's are not used for blue night routes anymore.

[gtatransitfanner]

15 hours ago, Elijah bey said:

8086, 8115, 8315 

On the 66 Prince Edward 

8086 is now on the 337 Islington blue night route also kinda rare since 8000's are not used for blue night routes anymore.

Queensway Bus on a Queensway Route regardless of whether it is a OG diesel or not is not special.

This was said time and time again.