GO Transit

[Lex Reid]

On 4/14/2024 at 1:47 PM, 2044 said:

Confirmed by who?

I work for Metrolinx, I can confirm, they have no plans to buy high floor coaches. Sine its still in the works/confidential, that's all the info I can give for now

On 4/12/2024 at 9:23 PM, fromthe905 said:

I heard a rumour around the Aberfoyle garage saying that GO is now looking at regular 40 foot transit buses instead of getting the low-floor MCI due to complaints from other companies who have that model of MCI. GO is looking to add new buses this year and if it is regular 40 foot buses it would be whoever has won the Metrolinx contract for this year, and it is New Flyer. Will be interesting to see what GO does later on this year. Correct me if im wrong but GO hasnt had 40 foot transit buses since the Orion V's.

This is false info

[GTAmissions1]

Metrolinx has selected ETCS Level 2 or European Train Control System to better handle the volume of trips in the future.

Link below along with a visual aid for those that prefer a graphic to better explain. 

https://www.metrolinx.com/en/discover/world-standard-signalling-system-to-improve-go-train-service

 

 

Final comments:

ETCS L2 will only be installed on Metrolinx owned tracks. For tracks owned by a different party, the sightline block signal system will still be retained in that situation with an area to transition between the two systems.

Reminds me of automated train control on Line 1 in Toronto. Leveraging the beacons along with real-time calculations done to better manage service. 

Even with ETCS L2 coming, it will be many years before it actually shows results once the infrastructure and communications are installed.

[MCIBUS]

DD GO BUSES?

Not living in the GTA, I'm just curious do all present GO DD Buses fit in all of GO Terminals> I know at one time some didn't first or second orders(I think)didn't as they where to tall, but what about now? 

OR 

Are some of them still to tall?

[FutureHeartsJunkie]

3 minutes ago, MCIBUS said:

DD GO BUSES?

Not living in the GTA, I'm just curious do all present GO DD Buses fit in all of GO Terminals> I know at one time some didn't first or second orders(I think)didn't as they where to tall, but what about now? 

OR 

Are some of them still to tall?

If I'm not mistaken, some of the most recent generation GO Transit double deckers (the ones from the 2015 model year) are capable of going through some of the GO bus terminals. I recall the time when the new Union Station Bus Terminal down at CIBC Square in Toronto opened in late-2020, they were capable of handling buses of that type.

 

As for the previous generations, some were forbidden to go inside the terminals back then in terms of clearance restrictions.

 

[Highway of Heroes]

214 is the first rebuilt hawker cab car to enter service this afternoon and it's on the train 631 which did Stouffville line to Old Elm GO Station.

[Orion V]

3 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

DD GO BUSES?

Not living in the GTA, I'm just curious do all present GO DD Buses fit in all of GO Terminals> I know at one time some didn't first or second orders(I think)didn't as they where to tall, but what about now? 

OR 

Are some of them still to tall?

They only have the SuperLo DDs operating now so they can all fit in the terminals.

The previous 2 generations of DDs couldn't fit in every terminal. Both versions are retired with the 2nd gen "super maturely" retired at the start of covid.

[G.A]

3 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

DD GO BUSES?

Not living in the GTA, I'm just curious do all present GO DD Buses fit in all of GO Terminals> I know at one time some didn't first or second orders(I think)didn't as they where to tall, but what about now? 

OR 

Are some of them still to tall?

The SuperLo custom model is 3.9 meters tall unlike the "Go-Anywhere" model which is 4.1 meters (8101-8125). That was also introduced after the orginal 4.2 meter. (8000-8021).

[MCIBUS]

Thanks for the info on the GO DD Buses.

[Highway of Heroes]

Any ideas on why GO Transit Electric Bus 4000 & 4001 hasn't been out in service for over 1-4 months? 

[G.A]

1 hour ago, Highway of Heroes said:

Any ideas on why GO Transit Electric Bus 4000 & 4001 hasn't been out in service for over 1-4 months? 

4001 has been out of service since November and 4000 was last seen March of this year. Reliability issues and with Proterra out of business as they use the Proterra technology and infrastructure.

[Trimetwes Fan1003]

When are the rebuilt 200 series cab cars going to enter service?

[rs3488]

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[GTAmissions1]

Go Transit Barrie line will not be operating on May 25th and 26th.

Replacement bus service operating in-place terminating at Highway 407 Station. Not Union Staton Bus Terminal like in previous closures. 

For those heading to downtown Toronto, passengers have to take Line 1 from Highway 407 Station.

Here are the branches being operated

Route 65 special branches: 

• GO Bus route 65H will serve Aurora GO, Wellington Street East at Highway 404 Park and Ride and Highway 407 Bus Terminal. 
• GO Bus route 65G will serve Aurora GO, King City GO, Maple GO, Rutherford GO, and Highway 407 Bus Terminal.  
• GO Bus route 65J will serve East Gwillimbury GO, Newmarket GO, King City GO, Maple GO, Rutherford GO, and Highway 407 Bus Terminal. 

Route 68 special branches: 

• GO Bus route 68F will serve Barrie Bus Terminal, Allandale Waterfront GO, Barrie South GO and Highway 407 Bus Terminal. 
• GO Bus route 68G will serve Barrie Bus Terminal, Allandale Waterfront GO, Barrie South GO, Bradford GO, East Gwillimbury GO, Newmarket GO, Aurora GO, King City GO, Maple GO, Rutherford GO, and Highway 407 Bus Terminal.  
• GO Bus route 68H will serve Bradford GO, East Gwillimbury GO, Newmarket GO, Aurora GO, Wellington Street East at Highway 404 Park and Ride and Highway 407 Bus Terminal. 

I have also attached the visual map for reference noted below for easier reference. 

Final comments:

Route 68H simply runs the one trip in-place of the train trip northbound. 

Route 65G/65J along with 68G providing station to station connections. 

It is an adjustment that moving forward, replacement bus services will terminate at Highway 407 Station and not continue into Union Station Bus Terminal. Only regularly scheduled bus trips after 11 PM provide service to Union Station Bus Terminal. 

Relying more on the 65H and 68F for the more direct connections. 

I have taken the 68D Union Station Bus Terminal a few times years ago when trains were not operating. The total scheduled time was around 1 hour and 40 minutes, but the challenges were traffic along Don Valley Parkway and Gardiner which could easily push it to two hours before platforming and disembarking at Union Station Bus Terminal. 

Operating to Highway 407 Station providing more consistent timing along with a connection to the subway.

[laliok]

Spotted ex-GO 2364 yesterday

[Shaun]

I think we really need to think about having an alternative to Line 1. 

Two weeks ago the Marathon was going on, on Sunday and Yonge St was closed from Lawrence to Front St. At the same time line 1 was closed from Sheppard Avenue Yonge to Davisvile. (Who ever allowed that to happen should get fired).

It took 90 minutes to go from Bloor to Queens Quay across to Spadina because everyone was trying to cross Yonge.

All the street cars were backed up going east and west because of the marathon. 

But especially on these weekends it would be really helpful to be able to use the Richmond Hill line even to just old Cummer. 

There are about 300 unused parking spots and at Leslie there is a connection to the Sheppard subway which is really close to Don Mills station with access to YRT.  Being able to transfer at Leslie and be at Union in 20 minutes without an extra fare would be awesome. 

Having a stop at Eglinton and be able to transfer to Line 5 would be another great option. 

They should at least do it for CNE weekends. 

And yes the western portion of line 1 was operating but there is always something. Emergency alarm activated, crazy people on the tracks, etc not to mention the slow orders.  From Finch W it's a good 50-60 min to Union on some days. 

 

[Xtrazsteve]

22 minutes ago, Shaun said:

I think we really need to think about having an alternative to Line 1. 

Two weeks ago the Marathon was going on, on Sunday and Yonge St was closed from Lawrence to Front St. At the same time line 1 was closed from Sheppard Avenue Yonge to Davisvile. (Who ever allowed that to happen should get fired).

It took 90 minutes to go from Bloor to Queens Quay across to Spadina because everyone was trying to cross Yonge.

All the street cars were backed up going east and west because of the marathon. 

But especially on these weekends it would be really helpful to be able to use the Richmond Hill line even to just old Cummer. 

There are about 300 unused parking spots and at Leslie there is a connection to the Sheppard subway which is really close to Don Mills station with access to YRT.  Being able to transfer at Leslie and be at Union in 20 minutes without an extra fare would be awesome. 

Having a stop at Eglinton and be able to transfer to Line 5 would be another great option. 

They should at least do it for CNE weekends. 

And yes the western portion of line 1 was operating but there is always something. Emergency alarm activated, crazy people on the tracks, etc not to mention the slow orders.  From Finch W it's a good 50-60 min to Union on some days. 

 

This city is doomed. No money, anti-privacy and ineffective criminal laws.

-Lack of a central event/closure/traffic management board. No one coordinates any events, closures and traffic managements. If you repair the Gardiner, maybe redo the Lake Shore traffic pattern. Reduced GO fares and increase service on Lakeshore West Line?

-Lack of subway security. Maybe it is time to banned all the crazy people. Maybe it is time to get a face recognition system to alert potential banned people.    

-Fix all the slow orders. 

-Clearly this city thinks like lets put a bike lane on EVERY road is a good idea. They really don't like people driving but they forgot buses use the roads too.

[Shaun]

10 minutes ago, Xtrazsteve said:

This city is doomed. No money, anti-privacy and ineffective criminal laws.

-Lack of a central event/closure/traffic management board. No one coordinates any events, closures and traffic managements. If you repair the Gardiner, maybe redo the Lake Shore traffic pattern. Reduced GO fares and increase service on Lakeshore West Line?

-Lack of subway security. Maybe it is time to banned all the crazy people. Maybe it is time to get a face recognition system to alert potential banned people.    

-Fix all the slow orders. 

-Clearly this city thinks like lets put a bike lane on EVERY road is a good idea. They really don't like people driving but they forgot buses use the roads too.

The Lakeshore closures have been going on for a year now and half the time no work is being done but the lanes are closed. 

CAFE TO is great but loosing lanes on MT pleasant is a head ache. 

Why would you close line 1 for repairs on the same day the marathon closed the same street. It makes no sense. 

[FlyerD901]

Bike lanes , war on cars, and talks of 15 min cities, new development with a massive reduction on parking, etc. The conspiracy theories have some weight to what were seeing. But that’s a conversation than can get real heated on a forum like this. so I better stop now.

1 hour ago, Shaun said:

The Lakeshore closures have been going on for a year now and half the time no work is being done but the lanes are closed. 

CAFE TO is great but loosing lanes on MT pleasant is a head ache. 

Why would you close line 1 for repairs on the same day the marathon closed the same street. It makes no sense. 

Toronto has been on a decline for a while now. But I do understand attachment and denial if your grew up here up in Toronto.

as much as lot of things appear to make no sense. I truly believe all this is part of a future plan. the biggest problem is, too many ppl in this city are either too  docile and bend over allowing the government to get away with all this nonsense. And/or too many bleeding hearts are running this city , without seeing the bigger picture and the negative affects it’s having.

[T3G]

The city has been on the decline for decades now. This is what 50 years of neoliberal  austerity gets you. 

War on cars? Sounds to me like the car drivers are the one waging war on the rest of the city. The King Street pilot and the handful of bike lanes scattered here and there don't change the fact that the city largely caters to the car crowd. They are a necessity in many circumstances, especially our diseased, car brained North American society, but many folk insist on ramming them where they have no business being, they are loud and dirty and smelly, and they block many major transit lines even though they carry far more people per unit than those tin cans, and not one in a thousand drivers should be trusted with access to a bike, never mind a heavy rolling death machine. And getting rid of them isn't feasible either, since many would-be residents of the city have been priced out to suburban hellholes, and to get from those by car takes less than half the time it does to get there by transit. The whole system is in collapse.

"Banning the crazy folk from the subway" is an insane line of thinking, BTW.

[KawarthaTransiteer]

I saw 2205 and 217 on a CN train yesterday at about 4:30 PM at Richmond Hill GO.

[Articulated]

1 hour ago, KawarthaTransiteer said:

I saw 2205 and 217 on a CN train yesterday at about 4:30 PM at Richmond Hill GO.

Guessing that they're heading north? Probably to ONR shops in North Bay. The 21xx series has not completed their second refurbishment yet, so sending a 22xx already is a little strange, but perhaps it will be a "pilot" unit.

[KawarthaTransiteer]

17 minutes ago, Articulated said:

Guessing that they're heading north? Probably to ONR shops in North Bay. The 21xx series has not completed their second refurbishment yet, so sending a 22xx already is a little strange, but perhaps it will be a "pilot" unit.

They indeed were going north.

[Mark Walton]

I was on a GO DD Kitchener-Bramalea Sunday evening, the 7:30 PM trip ex Kitchener GO. Until the first stop in Mississauga, there were several people in the stairwell near the upper deck. Several others on the upper deck were taking up more than one seat with bags, backpacks, etc. The driver did not intervene even once. 

Someone I met for lunch in KW told me he had once taken an express GO bus KW-TO that made good time as far as the Gardner exit - then took almost an hour from there to USBT. Is that normal?

[Shaun]

On 5/23/2024 at 6:12 PM, Mark Walton said:

I was on a GO DD Kitchener-Bramalea Sunday evening, the 7:30 PM trip ex Kitchener GO. Until the first stop in Mississauga, there were several people in the stairwell near the upper deck. Several others on the upper deck were taking up more than one seat with bags, backpacks, etc. The driver did not intervene even once. 

Someone I met for lunch in KW told me he had once taken an express GO bus KW-TO that made good time as far as the Gardner exit - then took almost an hour from there to USBT. Is that normal?

They should terminate those in Mississauga or Mimico. It would be faster to do the last leg by train. Construction downtown is insane.

[KawarthaTransiteer]

The PDF schedule for the Barrie line currently shows construction notices at the beginning of the file. They also did the same for Lakeshore East and Stouffville a few weeks ago.