GO Transit

[Chris W]

27 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

2541 tangled with a guardrail and lost. Wrecked is an understatement.

Hopefully everybody is okay.

[Bus_Medic]

16 minutes ago, Chris W said:

Hopefully everybody is okay.

I heard it was a deadheading, driver is alright. The outcome would’ve been different on a DD unit.

[GZ6113PHEV5]

I don‘t know if anyone notices the date of manufacture for 4000 the superlo ev was Nov 2015（someone took a picture of its info plate）. Is it a demonstrator unit for ADL？Will it be possible for it to enter service one day？

[Gamer Studios]

16 hours ago, GZ6113PHEV5 said:

I don‘t know if anyone notices the date of manufacture for 4000 the superlo ev was Nov 2015（someone took a picture of its info plate）. Is it a demonstrator unit for ADL？Will it be possible for it to enter service one day？

It's supposed to trial on route 34

[2044]

40 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said:

It's supposed to trial on route 34

This appears to have changed. Look for an announcement in the new year with more information.

17 hours ago, GZ6113PHEV5 said:

I don‘t know if anyone notices the date of manufacture for 4000 the superlo ev was Nov 2015（someone took a picture of its info plate）. Is it a demonstrator unit for ADL？Will it be possible for it to enter service one day？

Are you able to share the photo?

Apparently the two electric buses’ chassis were part of the first SuperLo order, but for one reason or another, weren’t taken by Metrolinx. 

[Gamer Studios]

2 hours ago, 2044 said:

This appears to have changed. Look for an announcement in the new year with more information.

Are you able to share the photo?

Apparently the two electric buses’ chassis were part of the first SuperLo order, but for one reason or another, weren’t taken by Metrolinx. 

^from a facebook friend of mine

[Shaun]

On 12/17/2022 at 10:44 AM, Bus_Medic said:

2541 tangled with a guardrail and lost. Wrecked is an understatement.

I found that they were not fast enough to keep up on the highway.  Better for local routes. 

[Bus_Medic]

40 minutes ago, Shaun said:

I found that they were not fast enough to keep up on the highway.  Better for local routes. 

 

[Doppelkupplung]

21 hours ago, Shaun said:

I found that they were not fast enough to keep up on the highway.  Better for local routes. 

Mate, I never like it when people rag on you on here, but I know you can do better than this.

[wil9402]

If anyone is interested to see the damage to 2541, here's a video of it.

[Gamer Studios]

On 12/17/2022 at 11:12 AM, Chris W said:

Hopefully everybody is okay.

https://www.tiktok.com/@mikeanto0108/video/7177944125952625926?_r=1&_t=8YFsLM64O3h&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7177944125952625926

[Shaun]

On 12/20/2022 at 12:56 PM, Gamer Studios said:

https://www.tiktok.com/@mikeanto0108/video/7177944125952625926?_r=1&_t=8YFsLM64O3h&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7177944125952625926

I don't think they will be fixing that up anytime soon. Good to see that they are safe thou. 

[Doppelkupplung]

In the past when GO used luglock rings on buses, did operators still have to remove the ring and check each nut by hand during a pre-trip? Or was it assumed that if the ring was on, they were secure?

[Bus_Medic]

49 minutes ago, Doppelkupplung said:

In the past when GO used luglock rings on buses, did operators still have to remove the ring and check each nut by hand during a pre-trip? Or was it assumed that if the ring was on, they were secure?

Prying a lug loc off would definitely be beyond the scope of a pre trip inspection.

[Ed T.]

1 hour ago, Doppelkupplung said:

In the past when GO used luglock rings on buses, did operators still have to remove the ring and check each nut by hand during a pre-trip? Or was it assumed that if the ring was on, they were secure?

Do operators actually have to do that?

Checking by hand will reveal nothing other than a nut ready to come off. That would be bad, of course, but you want to make sure that that isn't even possible.

Checking with a torque wrench would be more informative, but I'm envisioning a 3/4" drive monster for those nuts....

[ORION]

#2541 is now at MTB in Milton, ON sitting out back.

[Doppelkupplung]

11 hours ago, ORION said:

#2541 is now at MTB in Milton, ON sitting out back.

Would they actually want to rebuild that? I'd have thought they'd just use it for parts.

[GTAmissions1]

Go Transit to require passengers arrive earlier for a train departure since the doors will close 1 minute prior to departure. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/go-train-new-departure-policy-1.6707291?fbclid=IwAR1gO-fqfzCS-s71kAowqx8ytr2WORSy_IcJeYEjELF8Q6mqndpTjrTR0q0

 

Final comments:

I can understand if you are at the beginning of the station or at Union Station during the PM peak period. Since the train is already on the platform usually 10 minutes prior to departure plus with large volumes of people waiting depending on starting point. If the train is running late, they will need to adjust so that people have time to reach the platform and in case a short train is operating. 

When going down further the line either boarding or disembarking at busier stations, time is lost of course with the longer dwell times. Seeing how the Barrie line times have been rejigged by a few minutes either at the start or end of the line to maintain consistent departure times. 

Union Station Bus Terminal, they do employ that you have to arrive about a minute prior to departure time. Once the doors get locked, they don't reopen them. Posting which Zone and gate to board the bus ahead of time. Reminds me of catching a flight and how airlines advise arriving 2 to 3 hours prior to departure and how the boarding gate closes 10 minutes prior to departure to ensure on-time departure. 

[Ed T.]

The next step will be to do stop before each switch and then roll the entire train through at 10 km/h.

[T3G]

Why do TTC and Metrolinx keep trying to out garbage each other?

If you gave the mandate of running and planning service to a bunch of high schoolers you'd have smoother operations and more well thought through decisions then the "professionals" keep coming up with.

[G.A]

Higher risk for injuries which will lead to possible lawsuits for those injuries. Metrolinx again did not think things through as always. 

[smallspy]

3 hours ago, GTAmissions1 said:

Go Transit to require passengers arrive earlier for a train departure since the doors will close 1 minute prior to departure. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/go-train-new-departure-policy-1.6707291?fbclid=IwAR1gO-fqfzCS-s71kAowqx8ytr2WORSy_IcJeYEjELF8Q6mqndpTjrTR0q0

 

Final comments:

I can understand if you are at the beginning of the station or at Union Station during the PM peak period. Since the train is already on the platform usually 10 minutes prior to departure plus with large volumes of people waiting depending on starting point. If the train is running late, they will need to adjust so that people have time to reach the platform and in case a short train is operating. 

When going down further the line either boarding or disembarking at busier stations, time is lost of course with the longer dwell times. Seeing how the Barrie line times have been rejigged by a few minutes either at the start or end of the line to maintain consistent departure times. 

Union Station Bus Terminal, they do employ that you have to arrive about a minute prior to departure time. Once the doors get locked, they don't reopen them. Posting which Zone and gate to board the bus ahead of time. Reminds me of catching a flight and how airlines advise arriving 2 to 3 hours prior to departure and how the boarding gate closes 10 minutes prior to departure to ensure on-time departure. 

You should reread the notice - it is only applicable to the originating station of any train. Very, very few trains are scheduled for longer than 60 seconds at any intermediate stations, save for Union.

 

Of course if you only read Twitter or Reddit, you won't see the full notice and only see the army of wailers complaining about any change to their glorious existence.

 

Dan

[Gil]

9 hours ago, GTAmissions1 said:

Go Transit to require passengers arrive earlier for a train departure since the doors will close 1 minute prior to departure. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/go-train-new-departure-policy-1.6707291?fbclid=IwAR1gO-fqfzCS-s71kAowqx8ytr2WORSy_IcJeYEjELF8Q6mqndpTjrTR0q0

 

Final comments:

I can understand if you are at the beginning of the station or at Union Station during the PM peak period. Since the train is already on the platform usually 10 minutes prior to departure plus with large volumes of people waiting depending on starting point. If the train is running late, they will need to adjust so that people have time to reach the platform and in case a short train is operating. 

When going down further the line either boarding or disembarking at busier stations, time is lost of course with the longer dwell times. Seeing how the Barrie line times have been rejigged by a few minutes either at the start or end of the line to maintain consistent departure times. 

Union Station Bus Terminal, they do employ that you have to arrive about a minute prior to departure time. Once the doors get locked, they don't reopen them. Posting which Zone and gate to board the bus ahead of time. Reminds me of catching a flight and how airlines advise arriving 2 to 3 hours prior to departure and how the boarding gate closes 10 minutes prior to departure to ensure on-time departure. 

Wouldn't an across the board schedule adjustment of 1 minute have met with less bad press?  You're going to have all of the connecting local agencies have to find out from their passengers that they need more time to get make their trains rather than being notified by GO/Metrolinx directly.  Exactly whose face was trying to be saved by this?  Or is this a sneaky way of implementing "dynamic" scheduling where the train is not as strictly bound to the printed timetables?

[Shaun]

7 hours ago, Gil said:

Wouldn't an across the board schedule adjustment of 1 minute have met with less bad press?  You're going to have all of the connecting local agencies have to find out from their passengers that they need more time to get make their trains rather than being notified by GO/Metrolinx directly.  Exactly whose face was trying to be saved by this?  Or is this a sneaky way of implementing "dynamic" scheduling where the train is not as strictly bound to the printed timetables?

But for 50 years the train ran fine without having to do this, so why now?

And by doing this are you not padding the schedule by 1 minute each time the train leaves the station? So by the 10th station it will be 10min of buffer?

[Ed T.]

14 hours ago, smallspy said:

You should reread the notice - it is only applicable to the originating station of any train. Very, very few trains are scheduled for longer than 60 seconds at any intermediate stations, save for Union.

Of course if you only read Twitter or Reddit, you won't see the full notice and only see the army of wailers complaining about any change to their glorious existence.

I like your optimism!

Of course this morning on CBC's Metro Morning, it was covered without mentioning "originating station". So, yes, for those who aren't up for digging into Metrolinx notices, it would seem to apply to every station.

Perhaps Metrolinx' PR boffins made it very clear that this was only for originating stations, and news outlets covering this didn't notice. Or maybe Metrolinx PR boffins don't know how effective PR works.