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35 minutes ago, Articulated said:

When USBT was closed this weekend due to the protests, the train-buses from the north and east (65, 71, 90) were being diverted to Highway 407 Station, while the ones in the west (21, 31) were sent to Port Credit GO to connect with Lakeshore West trains. This is the usual procedure whenever traffic downtown is snarled (such as Gardiner or DVP closures). Prior to Highway 407 Station opening, York Mills was often used as the diversion point.

I don't know that the trip planner factors in the detour.  At least it didn't on Sunday.  I saw the notice for Union Station but didn't read it and rushed to catch my bus only to be told by Metrolinx staff that the Bus Terminal was closed (they didn't say why) and directed me into the train station.  I guess there are also alternate GO bus routes via Finch, Sheppard, Yorkdale and Hwy. 407.  Could Kipling be used as a diversion point in the future?  MiWay has fewer routes operating on weekends and GO still has a platform or two that aren't used.  The signage at that terminal still leaves much to be desired.  The ongoing construction at Port Credit for the Hurontario LRT is probably a bit of an additional inconvenience for the diversion.

I do wish they'd put more departure screens on the approaches to both the Bus and Train stations.  Granted they're not necessarily on Metrolinx property at that point, but something should be worked out with the property owners for the sake of passenger convenience.  The Bay St. Teamway could definitely use a bus terminal display, as you don't see the first one until you enter the bus terminal itself, and it's off to the side along the wall when you enter.  You'd walk right by it if you didn't know it was there.

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1 hour ago, Shaun said:

Did it affect other buses? Or just GO transit? 

They should just go to binding arbitration and get it over with. 

I went by on Monday via Megabus and no detour was reported while Go Transit buses were detoured to alternative stations.

50 minutes ago, Gil said:

I don't know that the trip planner factors in the detour.  At least it didn't on Sunday.  I saw the notice for Union Station but didn't read it and rushed to catch my bus only to be told by Metrolinx staff that the Bus Terminal was closed (they didn't say why) and directed me into the train station.  I guess there are also alternate GO bus routes via Finch, Sheppard, Yorkdale and Hwy. 407.  Could Kipling be used as a diversion point in the future?  MiWay has fewer routes operating on weekends and GO still has a platform or two that aren't used.  The signage at that terminal still leaves much to be desired.  The ongoing construction at Port Credit for the Hurontario LRT is probably a bit of an additional inconvenience for the diversion.

I do wish they'd put more departure screens on the approaches to both the Bus and Train stations.  Granted they're not necessarily on Metrolinx property at that point, but something should be worked out with the property owners for the sake of passenger convenience.  The Bay St. Teamway could definitely use a bus terminal display, as you don't see the first one until you enter the bus terminal itself, and it's off to the side along the wall when you enter.  You'd walk right by it if you didn't know it was there.

The trip planner would only factor the alternative station if it is planned such as DVP and Gardiner closure. If there is a detour due to demonstrations or heavy traffic that impacts scheduling, then it won't be reflected in the trip planner. It is up to the transit operator to communicate to passengers regarding the alternative terminus. 

Regarding Saturday, it was originally that buses would stop in front of the terminal and pick up/drop off passengers. Which was abandoned because of heavy traffic and instead routing buses to alternative stations with access to connecting services. Port Credit providing connection to Lakeshore West trains and Highway 407 to connect to Line 1 trains downtown. 

Saw people waiting inside for buses that were not entering and heard one report of one bus stuck inside Union Station Bus Terminal for over an hour unable to leave due to the protestors blocking the entrance. 

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29 minutes ago, GTAmissions1 said:

I went by on Monday via Megabus and no detour was reported while Go Transit buses were detoured to alternative stations.

The trip planner would only factor the alternative station if it is planned such as DVP and Gardiner closure. If there is a detour due to demonstrations or heavy traffic that impacts scheduling, then it won't be reflected in the trip planner. It is up to the transit operator to communicate to passengers regarding the alternative terminus. 

Regarding Saturday, it was originally that buses would stop in front of the terminal and pick up/drop off passengers. Which was abandoned because of heavy traffic and instead routing buses to alternative stations with access to connecting services. Port Credit providing connection to Lakeshore West trains and Highway 407 to connect to Line 1 trains downtown. 

Saw people waiting inside for buses that were not entering and heard one report of one bus stuck inside Union Station Bus Terminal for over an hour unable to leave due to the protestors blocking the entrance. 

I was attending a festival down at the nearby Metro Toronto Convention Centre on Saturday (I too, took the shuttle bus from the Ajax GO station to the Union Station Bus Terminal) - the same day which the basketball game was happening. When I took the shuttle bus from Ajax to Union Station Bus Terminal - it was nearly a full house. 

However, when I came home from the Union Station Bus Terminal to the Ajax GO station - it was a quiet ride. The good thing is - only about a few people were on the lower deck and three people (including myself) were on the upper deck! There was one lady who "tagged" me along to the bus terminal at the same time (she was heading to Ajax as well) and she was lucky herself! 

Had I stayed a bit longer in downtown Toronto - I would have to invoke an alternative route!

Aside from that - remember the announcement that the GO-On-Demand pilot is coming to Northumberland County last week? I found one update: https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/local-northumberland/news/2022/04/25/update-new-on-demand-pilot-shuttle-service-will-connect-northumberland-to-go-network-says-mpp.html

As for what platform the new service is going to use - hope it's more reliable that Durham Region Transit's software for this On-Demand service...

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On 4/26/2022 at 2:31 PM, Tom1122 said:

I've seen that some of the 8100 series double decker buses are being stored at HCRR. Any idea know how many buses there and what numbers they are?

I had some football business up in Milton last night and saw them there when I passed by on the trip up Guelph Line.  I'm not sure if the new truck's dash cam has a wide enough field of view to have caught them since they were back a ways from the road.

Other notable sightings:  The Mohawk Inn is dead, done, closed and abandoned, which is a shame because they used to have a nice restaurant.  In Milton itself, Ontario Steel Products/Arvin Meritor is totally gone, completely demolished flat piece of ground now.  Arvin Meritor expanded that plant in 2010/11 too.  I have fond memories of being chased around the roof of the building by one very angry Canada goose protecting a nest in one of the cooling towers.

As far as paying off HCRR to warehouse Go buses, jeez, there's a Winston Churchill quote about haggling price that comes to mind there.

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Can someone correct me if I’m wrong but once the LSE extension to Bomanville opens that would be the first passenger service east of Agincourt Yard on the Belleville sub since the mid-1960’s I think

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4 hours ago, John Oke said:

Can someone correct me if I’m wrong but once the LSE extension to Bomanville opens that would be the first passenger service east of Agincourt Yard on the Belleville sub since the mid-1960’s I think

Other than a couple of meters around Smiths Falls, it will be the first scheduled service, yes.

 

CN and VIA passenger trains have used the Belleville Sub for detours, however.

 

Dan

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5 hours ago, John Oke said:

This looks like it is on the Galt Sub crossing of the Humber River 

He should have just stayed on his side of the tracks rather than cross over in front of the locomotive. 

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On 5/30/2022 at 4:45 PM, MCIBUS said:

What an idiot!! What you couldn't wait couple of mins to let the train pass by? Your in such a hurry? YOUR A DUFUSES!! Plain and simple.

You missed the point like the train missed the kids. 
Oh so close though.

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Question about the BiLevels: what is the purpose of this wall/divider right next to the row of 3 seats under the stairs, and why don't all the BiLevels have it?

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1 hour ago, T3G said:

Question about the BiLevels: what is the purpose of this wall/divider right next to the row of 3 seats under the stairs, and why don't all the BiLevels have it?

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I was always under the impression it was just a design modification done between different models. 2060 being series 1 and 2129 series 2 

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3 hours ago, T3G said:

Question about the BiLevels: what is the purpose of this wall/divider right next to the row of 3 seats under the stairs, and why don't all the BiLevels have it?

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It's used to store some of the required on-board emergency equipment.

 

On other cars, it's stored elsewhere.

 

Dan

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This structure drew into my curiosity for along time ever since it was constructed. I know many other rail systems in the world has something similar.

The question is, what is this structure used for in the railway? I'm talking about the concrete steel beam thingy on sits on top of the railway that spans the width of the corridor.

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5 minutes ago, Orion V said:

This structure drew into my curiosity for along time ever since it was constructed. I know many other rail systems in the world has something similar.

The question is, what is this structure used for in the railway? I'm talking about the concrete steel beam thingy on sits on top of the railway that spans the width of the corridor.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6401253,-79.4111822,3a,75y,70.76h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7yUe_yNgIXRvH0egxzUdnA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

In many cases, it is either a retaining structure for the embankments surrounding a railway, though it appears one side is free-standing - suggesting it is also for noise abatement. Happy to be proven wrong. 

Edit: Nope, both sides are retaining walls. Cross-members would make the needed structure on both sides slightly less bulky.

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1 hour ago, InfiNorth said:

In many cases, it is either a retaining structure for the embankments surrounding a railway, though it appears one side is free-standing - suggesting it is also for noise abatement. Happy to be proven wrong. 

Edit: Nope, both sides are retaining walls. Cross-members would make the needed structure on both sides slightly less bulky.

The soil conditions there were such that the retaining walls would have needed far more strength, and thus been much bulkier. Because they couldn't be built closer to each other - that would reduce the amount of room for the tracks - the additional material would have been built out, and which would have required even more property.

 

This was felt to be an more elegant solution, but still allow for sufficient strength.

 

Dan

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Does anyone know of a recent speed increase on the Kingston Sub between Guildwood and the Durham/Toronto border? I was on it today and it seems faster along there than it did in the past.

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17 hours ago, PrimeTio said:

Someone was just unfortunately killed by a go transit after being tied to the tracks on the lakeshore east line 

Link to source? I find nothing.

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