nfitz Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 8 hours ago, smallspy said: - The tracks are federally regulated railway tracks I thought the section in question was Metrolinx-owned? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 15 hours ago, nfitz said: I thought the section in question was Metrolinx-owned? It is. But just because Metrolinx owns it doesn't mean that it automatically looses its federal regulation. As I understand it they tried that stunt, and TC said "nay nay". Dan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/1001250/building-ontario-with-investments-in-go-transit-bi-level-rail-coaches Alstom awarded $117 million contract to refurbish 94 bi-levels in Thunder Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, John Oke said: https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/1001250/building-ontario-with-investments-in-go-transit-bi-level-rail-coaches Alstom awarded $117 million contract to refurbish 94 bi-levels in Thunder Bay I wonder why it didnt go to ONR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzhao Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Shaun said: I wonder why it didnt go to ONR? The BiLevels were made by Bombardier whose rail division is now owned by Alstom. Probably just a simple matter (from Alstom's angle) of convincing the government to call in basically the procurement version of an OEM repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flalex72 Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, wowzhao said: The BiLevels were made by Bombardier whose rail division is now owned by Alstom. Probably just a simple matter (from Alstom's angle) of convincing the government to call in basically the procurement version of an OEM repair. Sure, but they haven't hesitated to award contracts to ONR or CAD in the past. Really, there are only two reasons: It was cheapest, or it's an election year and work at the Thunder Bay plant is drying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 10 hours ago, smallspy said: But just because Metrolinx owns it doesn't mean that it automatically looses its federal regulation. As I understand it they tried that stunt, and TC said "nay nay". I thought did exactly that these days as (unlike TTR), no longer appears on the list of federally certified railways - https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/federal-railway-companies Not that it completely absolves them - but it does significantly reduce the amount of federal oversight (my MP reminded me, when discussing the Lakeshore East widening). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityflyer Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/metrolinx-puts-plan-to-electrify-rail-through-guelph-ontario-on-hold/ar-AARpAz3?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggFp5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 So it looks like the investigation is still ongoing and the line won't open until at least after the weekend. I don't see a hopper car carrying gravel with a bottom opening can flip over unless the rocks didn't evenly slide down the hopper and got stuck on one side making it heavier on one side causing it to tip over. Sounds like a freak accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORION Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 #8205, bound for Quebec City to its new owner and second career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, ORION said: #8205, bound for Quebec City to its new owner and second career. How much service did they see after rebuild before being put into storage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Shaun said: How much service did they see after rebuild before being put into storage? These were not rebuilt. 8101-8125 and a few others were just repainted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTio Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, ORION said: #8205, bound for Quebec City to its new owner and second career. How many are on sale? Or with CVBS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 13 hours ago, Cityflyer said: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/metrolinx-puts-plan-to-electrify-rail-through-guelph-ontario-on-hold/ar-AARpAz3?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggFp5 The original story that MSN lifted their information from came from the CBC which has a bit more detail: Metrolinx pauses plans to electrify rail through Guelph I don't know the area well enough to be able to comment about not being able to find a suitable substation location but the freight service part, that intrigues me. CN and CP are well known to be hostile to electrification. The fact of the matter is the mainline railways in Canada burn an awful lot of diesel and in these climate change times, it makes sense to electrify the heavy use trunk lines to save the lion's share of the fuel consumption and resultant carbon emissions, which would also solve Metrolinx and AMT etc's problems with wanting to electrify but main line railway companies saying no. Yet there's no policy out of the federal government in terms of incentive or regulatory requirement even though mainline railways are federally regulated. The silence on railway electrification with the secondary effect of leaving agencies like AMT and Metrolinx in the lurch on it when it comes to dealing with CN and CP is strange given what the stated position of Trudeau and company on the environment is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORION Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 17 hours ago, Shaun said: How much service did they see after rebuild before being put into storage? 2012-early 2020 it seems. GO doesn’t rebuild their buses, just a minor refresh with paint and sheet metal if need be. this too, is just a red wrap over the GO scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, ORION said: 2012-early 2020 it seems. GO doesn’t rebuild their buses, just a minor refresh with paint and sheet metal if need be. this too, is just a red wrap over the GO scheme. I'm sure they get work done on the engine and transmission as well as suspension components. Did they get new seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORION Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Shaun said: I'm sure they get work done on the engine and transmission as well as suspension components. Did they get new seats? Interior is unchanged. They would get repairs done to them, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/12/nobody-using-new-go-transit-toronto/ Once again, BlogTO is back in with clickbait 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, John Oke said: https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/12/nobody-using-new-go-transit-toronto/ Once again, BlogTO is back in with clickbait They’re not wrong. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Walton Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 10:22 PM, Wayside Observer said: The original story that MSN lifted their information from came from the CBC which has a bit more detail: Metrolinx pauses plans to electrify rail through Guelph I don't know the area well enough to be able to comment about not being able to find a suitable substation location but the freight service part, that intrigues me. CN and CP are well known to be hostile to electrification. The fact of the matter is the mainline railways in Canada burn an awful lot of diesel and in these climate change times, it makes sense to electrify the heavy use trunk lines to save the lion's share of the fuel consumption and resultant carbon emissions, which would also solve Metrolinx and AMT etc's problems with wanting to electrify but main line railway companies saying no. Yet there's no policy out of the federal government in terms of incentive or regulatory requirement even though mainline railways are federally regulated. The silence on railway electrification with the secondary effect of leaving agencies like AMT and Metrolinx in the lurch on it when it comes to dealing with CN and CP is strange given what the stated position of Trudeau and company on the environment is. AMT got around that by buying the Deux-Montagnes Sub from CN in early 2017. About 6 months later the operations side became officially RTM, then rebranded as exo a year later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 9:52 PM, PrimeTio said: How many are on sale? Or with CVBS? Do these need a special exemption to get a permit since they are not the go anywhere kind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityflyer Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 GO Transit is charging ahead with an electric-powered bus pilot | Metrolinx News 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buurin Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 8:15 AM, Shaun said: Do these need a special exemption to get a permit since they are not the go anywhere kind? IIRC anything 8100 and up are go-anywhere type. That 8205 also certainly looks like go-anywhere to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Buurin said: IIRC anything 8100 and up are go-anywhere type. That 8205 also certainly looks like go-anywhere to me. They couldn't go everywhere. There were a number of routes they could not be on because of height restrictions. But were not as restricted as the 8000 series. Pretty sure he has the last batch or a good number of the best conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCIBUS Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 I'm not sure of the height of those GO Double Decker buses your referring to but if they where the same height of or OC 1201-3 test buses OC had, BC Transit bought them so it's possible they might buy them or perhaps Las Vegas Transit they also have Double Deckers (not sure of their height though?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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