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Original GO Cab Car 104 is at the Toronto Railway Museum

For the sake of convenience, I’ll leave this here: Total of 5 ex go 8000s being loaded in Agincourt yard this morning, destined for their second lives in parts unknown. Numbers still on, th

omg I think its time for some social distancing for you two

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12 hours ago, Ontario_Transit said:

Do GO Buses get to use 407 ETR for free?

No. GO must pay for the use of the 407, and I've been led to believe that they only get a slight discount on the standard commercial vehicle rates.

 

1 hour ago, leylandvictory2 said:

407 is owned by a private company 

Nitpick: Highway 407 ETR is owned by the Province of Ontario,  just as every other 400-series highway and the QEW. It is operated by a private consortium, however.

 

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So in a way, the province is paying itself for the the tolls, even though the operations are paid to the private operator employee paychecks.

3 hours ago, leylandvictory2 said:

407 is owned by a private company 

 

1 hour ago, smallspy said:

Nitpick: Highway 407 ETR is owned by the Province of Ontario,  just as every other 400-series highway and the QEW. It is operated by a private consortium, however.

If I remember correctly,  the private operation ends at East of Brock Road and entirely operated by the MTO. Now does GO still have to pay if they choose to run a route on the new extension?

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2 hours ago, smallspy said:

No. GO must pay for the use of the 407, and I've been led to believe that they only get a slight discount on the standard commercial vehicle rates.

 

Nitpick: Highway 407 ETR is owned by the Province of Ontario,  just as every other 400-series highway and the QEW. It is operated by a private consortium, however.

 

Dan

407 ETR and GO are both operated by the government so GO should be free. That would make sense.

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4 minutes ago, Ontario_Transit said:

407 ETR and GO are both operated by the government so GO should be free. That would make sense.

So many things transit-related in this province would make sense.

 

Reality differs ...

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2 hours ago, Ontario_Transit said:

407 ETR and GO are both operated by the government so GO should be free. That would make sense.

407 ETR is not operated by the government. It's operated by a very large multinational consortium, the biggest part of which is based in Spain.

 

And considering that the Province has gone to court against the consortium and lost (twice?), it's not likely that they are going to be getting very many concessions for things like transit access to the highway.

 

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This is taken straight from the 407 ETR website (https://407etr.com/en/help/general/faq-tollsandfees/faq48.html)

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Are there any vehicles that do not have to pay tolls?

The following vehicles may be exempted from tolls:

  • Law Enforcement, Fire Fighting, Ambulances
  • Department of National Defence
  • Vehicles bearing diplomatic licence plates

In order to obtain toll exemption for your vehicle(s), a Toll Exemption Agreement must be completed and submitted to 407 ETR for approval.

And this is taken from the Highway 407 East website (https://www.on407.ca/en/help/general/faq/faq13.html)

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Are there any vehicles that do not have to pay tolls?

As per the regulation under the Highway 407 East Act, 2012, the following vehicles may be exempted from tolls on Highway 407 (including Highway 412):

  • Ambulances;
  • Fire department vehicles;
  • Police department vehicles;
  • Ontario government enforcement vehicles;
  • Vehicles bearing diplomatic licence plates; and
  • Maintenance vehicles used to maintain tolling equipment.

Organizations operating vehicles falling into the above categories must submit a Toll Exemption Agreement for approval prior to travelling on the highway.

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Automated announcements on GO Trains are now repeated in French.

”Now arriving at: ________, arrivée à ________”

this was also occurred with the “as a courtesy to the next person, please keep your feet off the seats” message

the only place this didn’t occur was at Union.

some coaches do have the new announcements, others don’t.

coach 2009 and 4517 are on the same consist, yet 2009 has that new announcements and 4517 doesnt.

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10 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

Automated announcements on GO Trains are now repeated in French.

Supposedly a memo was sent out to all staff that announcements were to be made in both english and french as of this past Monday or Tuesday.

 

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On 5/31/2018 at 9:03 AM, smallspy said:

No. GO must pay for the use of the 407, and I've been led to believe that they only get a slight discount on the standard commercial vehicle rates.

 

Do you have any more info on that alleged discount (3 guesses why I'm asking.....).

- Dave

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18 hours ago, GM5000 said:

Do you have any more info on that alleged discount (3 guesses why I'm asking.....).

- Dave

I don't. The reason I used the term "led to believe" is because this came from people within head office who don't necessarily work on the bus side of things that often. I can't recall ever being given any paperwork that explicitly states costs of running the service on the highway.

 

Send me a message offline and we'll talk about it some more.

 

Dan

 

 

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14 hours ago, Token Dispenser said:

Does anyone know what the white lunar aspect means?

 

Sometimes it's by itself on a mast, and sometimes it's part of an array of signals. E.g. Newmarket sub, just north of where it crosses over CN York

It's not a "lunar", and it's not a signal, either. They aren't covered under the CROR, so they can mean any number of different things, but can't actually be used to operate a train. Instead, there will be a footnote in the subdivision guides that will tell crews about its location, use, and how to interpret it.

 

The most common usage on the GO network is to indicate whether a high-water indicator has tripped or not.

 

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On 6/18/2018 at 1:52 PM, Ontario_Transit said:

Just a quick question, what type of elevators are in service at Scarborough GO?

Was at that station a few months back and if I'm not mistaken they could be Kone, who has installed a lot of elevators for GO recently.

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Anyone who's in the know...
Was the time for having mobile Tim Horton's at certain GO Stations only a trial and not permanent? I'm disappointed as Oakville GO was a perfect location for one. I do'nt know why I do'nt like the Gateway version of their coffee, but for the trouble GO/Metrolinx went with constructing these mobile stores, only to close them a year later?
I did notice a couple months ago one opened at Burlington GO in their new station building and now its closed!

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4 hours ago, newflyerinvero said:

Anyone who's in the know...

Was the time for having mobile Tim Horton's at certain GO Stations only a trial and not permanent? I'm disappointed as Oakville GO was a perfect location for one. I do'nt know why I do'nt like the Gateway version of their coffee, but for the trouble GO/Metrolinx went with constructing these mobile stores, only to close them a year later?

I did notice a couple months ago one opened at Burlington GO in their new station building and now its closed!

Unfortunately it was a trial, the one at Oshawa closed a month ago, the one at Ajax never got built, I presume the budget for Ajax was deferred to Burlington, which really looked like it had a more perminate location.

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7 hours ago, newflyerinvero said:

Anyone who's in the know...

Was the time for having mobile Tim Horton's at certain GO Stations only a trial and not permanent? I'm disappointed as Oakville GO was a perfect location for one. I do'nt know why I do'nt like the Gateway version of their coffee, but for the trouble GO/Metrolinx went with constructing these mobile stores, only to close them a year later?

I did notice a couple months ago one opened at Burlington GO in their new station building and now its closed!

It was always intended to be a one year trial. More than anything, it was Metrolinx trying to convince Tim's to pay to build some permanent facilities at the stations. I don't know how successful they were in terms of sales, but considering the financial difficulties that Tim's parent company is currently in I wouldn't bet on permanent facilities being built anytime soon.

 

Dan

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