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Sorry, I just read this. Will finish up the active fleet skeletons tonight.

BTW, you are mad for making that manually! :P I guess that's why they call you Mad Mark eh? :o

Yep, that's exactly right :o !

The 12-series roster list took me a while to complete, but I'm pleased with the result. I'm doing my best to keep it as accurate and up-to-date as possible.

Boy, am I ever glad I became a Wiki editor ;) .

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Sorry, I just read this. Will finish up the active fleet skeletons tonight.

BTW, you are mad for making that manually! ;) I guess that's why they call you Mad Mark eh? :o

Thank you to have done the fleet skeletons. I'll put my informations for the 11-xxx Tomorrow morning and the 16-xxx, 17-xxx and 18-xxx Wesnesday!! :o It's a pleasure for me to do this, I have all my day tomorrow!!

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Thank you for adding the fleet skeletons, Ashton! Much appreciated :o .

I've added garage allocations for the 13 and 21 series. Any corrections are welcome.

P.S., I got all of the the garage allocation information from my own photos and observations (and those of others), the roster lists at Mystic's Transit Fan Network site ( http://www.transitfan.com ), and SMS' February '07 STM fleet roster ( http://www.montrain.ca/bus/busdiv-200702.php ) .

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The 11-xxx roster is now done, so I'll do the 16-xxx, 17-xxx and 18-xxx roster, before tommorow!! I'll had some others information soon in the 11-xxx section. :o

Very good. I've just finished adding garage allocations / additional notes to the 11-XXX roster list.

Good luck with the first-gen information, Simon :o .

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SMS and I discussed today that we should try to identify all the 16-xxx and 17-xxx buses that have suburban seating.

What if we tried to determine which buses had voieres.gif shields - both metal and LED? What if we tried to determine which buses had suicide arrows as well for the skeletons?

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What if we tried to determine which buses had voieres.gif shields - both metal and LED? What if we tried to determine which buses had suicide arrows as well for the skeletons?

Well, I've indicated in the 11-XXX roster, which I just added the garage allocations / addtional notes to today which 11s had Balios discs. I believe 11-078 had a metal flip-out voieres.gif shield at one point. In addition, numerous 11s carried a suicide arrow at one point as well.

There were lots of 59s and 60s that had Balios discs and / or metal flip-out voieres.gif shields, as I recall, in addition to several 60s with suicide arrows.

12-064 is currently the only active 12 with a Balios disc, although I'm sure there were a few more at one point. There were also a few 12s that had suicide arrows at one point.

13s 032 - 039 were equipped with suicide arrows at one point, as was 13-040 before it was transferred to St. Laurent.

Numerous buses in the 14-07X & 14-08X series had Balios discs at one point, and some of them still do. There may have been a few Frontenac 14s that had suicide arrows too.

Any additional information and / or corrections are welcome.

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What if we tried to determine which buses had voieres.gif shields - both metal and LED? What if we tried to determine which buses had suicide arrows as well for the skeletons?

I got the full list of buses that had the front suicide arrows including the fishbowls. I'll post it later on if nobody does it before me.

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For those that want to add this info to the wiki, here's the list of buses that had front suicide arrows:

GM New Looks

22-050, 22-053, 22-056, 22-061, 22-068, 22-069, 22-076, 22-077, 22-079,

22-080, 22-082, 22-085, 22-086, 22-087, 22-088, 22-089, 22-090, 22-091,

22-092, 22-106, 22-107, 22-111, 22-112, 22-113, 22-114, 22-116, 22-117,

22-118, 22-122, 22-124

MCI Classics

60-009, 60-010, 60-011, 60-014, 60-065, 60-066, 60-067, 60-068, 60-069,

60-070, 60-071, 60-072, 60-073, 60-074, 60-075, 60-076, 60-077, 60-078,

60-079

11-001, 11-002, 11-003, 11-004, 11-005, 11-016, 11-033, 11-047, 11-048,

11-049, 11-050, 11-051, 11-052, 11-053, 11-054, 11-055, 11-056, 11-057,

11-058, 11-072

12-044, 12-045, 12-046, 12-048, 12-049, 12-050, 12-051, 12-052, 12-053,

12-054, 12-055, 12-056, 12-057, 12-058, 12-061, 12-078

13-032, 13-033, 13-034, 13-035, 13-036, 13-037, 13-038, 13-039, 13-040

14-054, 14-055, 14-056, 14-057, 14-058, 14-059, 14-109, 14-110, 14-162,

14-163, 14-164, 14-165, 14-166, 14-167, 14-168, 14-169, 14-170, 14-171,

14-172, 14-173, 14-174, 14-175, 14-176, 14-177

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I'll start on the STCUM New Looks in detail. I'll post the list by divison in the wiki for the 21 to 25 series fishbowls at there last known garage locations as they probably switch garages hundreds of times over their years in service. I'll also post notes on each of them. Basically the samething were doing for the current buses in service.

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Added GM New Look 21 series fleet list with garage locations per bus so far.
Let me know when you are done so I can split the page - on the main roster page it's linked to different pages for 21-001 to 21-039 and 21-040 to 21-150 (due to year).
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Let me know when you are done so I can split the page - on the main roster page it's linked to different pages for 21-001 to 21-039 and 21-040 to 21-150 (due to year).
Never mind, I see where you added them. :) I was looking on a different page. We'll probably have to figure out how to handle that.
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Let me know when you are done so I can split the page - on the main roster page it's linked to different pages for 21-001 to 21-039 and 21-040 to 21-150 (due to year).

I combined all of them on 1 page. I thinks its better to have all the 21 series New Looks on the same page. If you click on the numbers for the 21's, you'll see that I made the switch in the years as they were delivered the following year. I don't want a split (a new page) for both years.

BTW, I finished the 22 and 23 series New Looks as well. Note that the rosters are of 1995-96 when just about all the 21 to 25 series New Looks were left in service. I know that some ended up in other garages before retirement and I'll list that if applicable in the notes section.

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Finished the 24 series New Looks by division list in detail with notes as well. I also cleaned up the STCUM page a little by getting rid of extra notes and 'formerly CTCUM' notes for all New Looks made after 1975 as they were not CTCUM, but in the STCUM era.

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