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Are the new XD60s in service yet? they arrived a few months back but no further info nor any changes to the wiki about it. Same goes for the electric trial buses

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Electric buses will be coming into revenue service starting June 29th on either Route 44 Bristol and 55 Davis Drive in the City of Newmarket. Two regular 40 ft buses will be in-service and a total of six have been ordered. Between New Flyer and Nova. With more units to come online in July.

To determine how electric buses work in a real world environment along with the other factors. 

https://www.yrt.ca/en/about-us/electric-bus.aspx

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On 6/27/2020 at 11:30 PM, GTAmissions1 said:

Electric buses will be coming into revenue service starting June 29th on either Route 44 Bristol and 55 Davis Drive in the City of Newmarket. Two regular 40 ft buses will be in-service and a total of six have been ordered. Between New Flyer and Nova. With more units to come online in July.

To determine how electric buses work in a real world environment along with the other factors. 

https://www.yrt.ca/en/about-us/electric-bus.aspx

According to the trackers, XE40 1911 is out on route 55 this morning

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Now that people are boarding from the front doors, is it the same with VIVA buses or do they still all door?

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12 minutes ago, Tom1122 said:

Now that people are boarding from the front doors, is it the same with VIVA buses or do they still all door?

VIVA has always been all door as you pay on the platform before boarding.  There's nowhere on board to pay anyway.

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2004 along with 2001 is now in revenue service on 20 Jane today. Confirmed via Transsee.

Slowly phasing in the new XD60 buses in exchange for the refurbished Van Hool buses. 

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1 hour ago, GTAmissions1 said:

2004 along with 2001 is now in revenue service on 20 Jane today. Confirmed via Transsee.

Slowly phasing in the new XD60 buses in exchange for the refurbished Van Hool buses. 

They entered service yesterday

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I'm wondering why the decision was made of the other XE40s being in the regular YRT local scheme and not having the special 'electric bus' scheme of that of 1911?

Presently I've only seen a photo of 1913 in the regular scheme.

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2 hours ago, newflyerinvero said:

I'm wondering why the decision was made of the other XE40s being in the regular YRT local scheme and not having the special 'electric bus' scheme of that of 1911?

Presently I've only seen a photo of 1913 in the regular scheme.

1911 and 1912 are in the eBus wrap, while 1913 is in the regular livery. 1914 has not been in service yet, so we don't  know what livery it's wearing.

1911 and 1912 were used for the media unveiling back in March; I suspect this is why they were wrapped and 1913 wasn't. COVID-19 concerns could have also played a part, by not allowing off-site employees into the garage to perform non-essential work.

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2 hours ago, Articulated said:

1911 and 1912 are in the eBus wrap, while 1913 is in the regular livery. 1914 has not been in service yet, so we don't  know what livery it's wearing.

1911 and 1912 were used for the media unveiling back in March; I suspect this is why they were wrapped and 1913 wasn't. COVID-19 concerns could have also played a part, by not allowing off-site employees into the garage to perform non-essential work.

From what I was told, 1914 is in unwrapped and 1921 is on the property. I didn't see it when I passed the garage though so it might be inside.

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York Region Transit/Viva have posted their service changes effective September 6th. Link here:

https://www.yrt.ca/en/schedules-and-maps/service-changes.aspx

Key takeaways:

Weekends/holidays: Viva Blue will start at Finch Go Station for the first departure instead of Yonge/16th Avenue northbound to Newmarket. Handy for those that need to head north on Sunday having an earlier departure time at 6:13 AM and for a reasonable cost. 

All Go Transit shuttle routes (200 series) are discontinued due to low ridership.

All Express (300 series) and school routes (400 series) reinstated as of September 8th (Tuesday).

Blue A, Pink and Green continue to be suspended due to the pandemic. 

Edited by GTAmissions1
oversight error and added series numbers for easier clarification
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11 hours ago, GTAmissions1 said:

York Region Transit/Viva have posted their service changes effective September 6th. Link here:

https://www.yrt.ca/en/schedules-and-maps/service-changes.aspx

Key takeaways:

Weekends/holidays: Viva Blue will start at Finch Go Station for the first departure instead of Yonge/16th Avenue northbound to Newmarket. Handy for those that need to head north on Sunday having an earlier departure time at 6:13 AM and for a reasonable cost. 

All Go Transit shuttle routes (200 series) are discontinued due to low ridership.

All business and school routes reinstated as of September 8th (Tuesday).

Blue A, Pink and Green continue to be suspended due to low demand. 

Bit more than just those...

  • Most major routes will be resuming their regular (pre-pandemic) schedules. Viva will still operate on reduced frequencies for most lines.
    • This includes the resumption of service on routes 81, 82, 165F, all Express routes (301, 302, 304), all High School Specials, and weekend service on route 760.
    • Routes 10, 22, 31, 42, 45, 51, 58, 84 remain suspended; On-Demand continues to replace most of those routes.
  • A couple of routes will see service increases above and beyond pre-pandemic levels:
    • Route 2 will go to 18-25 minute headways during rush hours, returning to a frequency that was last seen a couple of years ago.
    • Routes 1 and 8 will see a 3rd midday bus added (both had 2 midday buses in pre-pandemic schedules).
    • Route 9 will have a third bus added during rush hours, and a second bus during midday for the first time ever.
  • There will be service reductions to some of the non-mainline routes during off-peak periods, due to low ridership:
    • Routes 12, 23, 40, 41, 52, 56 will be reduced to rush hours only.
    • Route 26 will have weekend service cut, but retain weekday midday service.
    • Routes 3, 7 will have their weekend service reduced.
Edited by Articulated
Add midday service improvements on 1, 8

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3 hours ago, Articulated said:

Bit more than just those...

  • Most major routes will be resuming their regular (pre-pandemic) schedules. Viva will still operate on reduced frequencies for most lines.
    • This includes the resumption of service on routes 81, 82, 165F, all Express routes (301, 302, 304), all High School Specials, and weekend service on route 760.
    • Routes 10, 22, 31, 42, 45, 51, 58, 84 remain suspended; On-Demand continues to replace most of those routes.
  • A couple of routes will see service increases above and beyond pre-pandemic levels:
    • Route 2 will go to 18-25 minute headways during rush hours, returning to a frequency that was last seen a couple of years ago
    • Route 9 will have a third bus added during rush hours, and a second bus during midday for the first time ever.
  • There will be service reductions to some of the non-mainline routes during off-peak periods, due to low ridership:
    • Routes 12, 23, 40, 41, 52, 56 will be reduced to rush hours only.
    • Route 26 will have weekend service cut, but retain weekday midday service.
    • Routes 3, 7 will have their weekend service reduced.

My jaw dropped when I saw the service improvements on route 9, not going to lie lol

As an aside, do you think those GO shuttle routes will be brought back in the future?

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23 hours ago, yrt1000 said:

My jaw dropped when I saw the service improvements on route 9, not going to lie lol

As an aside, do you think those GO shuttle routes will be brought back in the future?

I don't think it is very likely considering that they are more focused on ride on-demand service (Mobility On-Request) to service what demand is still out there versus the conventional fixed route system. Trying to deliver a similar service at a lower cost per passenger or utilizing smaller vehicles.

Some areas with MOR (Mobility On-Request) can book through a mobile app and get info updates in real-time. 

Other areas, you have to call with at least an hour of notice. Which can be a bit challenging if the train is delayed or not knowing if the vehicle is coming earlier or later.

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1 hour ago, tommike said:

Do any one know why they retried ag300 and not the a330 yet?

The AG300 articulated buses have seen a lot more mileage on them than their 40' A330 cousins. Going by pre-COVID schedules, the A330 fleet are used on Pink, Orange, Green, and Yellow, and Purple on weekends only; this accounts for about 26 buses during weekday rush hours out of the 40-bus fleet (and that's assuming all 9 buses on Pink are A330s and not artics). They have gotten plenty of rest in recent years as well as a second rebuild a couple of years ago.

In general, articulated buses have a shorter lifespan than regular 40' buses. 12 years is about as long as you can run an artic, while regular buses can easily reach 18 with a standard midlife overhaul. Just look at MiWay, who retired most of their 2008 D60LFRs two years ago while they are still running 2003 D40LFs.

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Anyone know if the Cornell Terminal will be open by the end of 2020? Or will it be super delayed like the Vaughan Smart Centre Terminal.

Vivanext has it listed as 75% completion as of today.

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